10 episodes

Join us as we explore four VERY different visions for what the future of meat and livestock should look like: No meat, more meat, alternative 'meat', and less meat. We'll ask: What does each future look like? Who supports which future and why? And what does the evidence actually say? We visit farms, labs, and universities across the world to investigate the evidence, engage with tricky ethical dilemmas, and imagine future possible worlds. Our hope? To depolarise a very polarised conversation. For more info, visit: https://tabledebates.org/meat

Meat: the four futures TABLEdebates

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Join us as we explore four VERY different visions for what the future of meat and livestock should look like: No meat, more meat, alternative 'meat', and less meat. We'll ask: What does each future look like? Who supports which future and why? And what does the evidence actually say? We visit farms, labs, and universities across the world to investigate the evidence, engage with tricky ethical dilemmas, and imagine future possible worlds. Our hope? To depolarise a very polarised conversation. For more info, visit: https://tabledebates.org/meat

    9. Will you join the insect revolution?

    9. Will you join the insect revolution?

    There are over 2,000 types of insects that people eat across the world. Some of these species could have the potential to be cultivated at scale using less land, less water, and fewer greenhouse gas emissions while supplying a nutritious protein source to many. But what does scaling insect production look like, and will people actually eat them?
    In this bonus episode, we dive deep into the world of insects as a potential food source. We visit a Swedish mealworm factory to understand the production process, and speak to researchers in Ethiopia and the Netherlands about the environmental benefits, ethical considerations, and likelihood of Europeans eating insects in the future.
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    For more info and transcript, please visit: https://tabledebates.org/meat/episode9

    Meat: the four Futures project webpage: https://tabledebates.org/meat

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    Music by Blue dot Sessions.

    • 27 min
    8. Looking back, looking forward

    8. Looking back, looking forward

    Over the last few months, we explored what the future of meat and livestock could look like. We’ve talked about how our values, ethics and where we live in the world can impact our desired futures for meat. And we did a deep dive into four potential futures - efficient meat, alternative “meat”, less meat and no meat.
    To wrap up the series, we hear comments and thoughts from the listeners, and podcast host Matthew Kessler shares some personal reflections on what he learned about the future of meat and livestock after making this series.

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    Visit the episode page with more resources: https://tabledebates.org/meat/episode8

    Project webpage: https://tabledebates.org/meat

    Take the values-based quiz: https://tabledebates.org/meat/quiz

    Music by Blue dot Sessions and Epidemic sound.

    • 35 min
    7. Health, biodiversity, animal ethics

    7. Health, biodiversity, animal ethics

    We've heard four distinct visions for the future of meat and livestock. But realistically, won't they all play a role? As we wrap up the series in the next two episodes, we’re going to review what’s in conflict between the four futures and how parts of them might co-exist.
    In this episode we ask three experts to consider different arguments presented by the four futures as they relate to health, biodiversity and animal ethics. We ask a professor of diet and population health if it’s better to eat some, a lot, or no meat; we ask a population biologist about how the different futures would help biodiversity to recover; and we ask an animal ethicist about the morality of eating animals and to interrogate the ethical cases put forward by the four futures.

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    Visit the episode page with more resources: https://tabledebates.org/meat/episode7

    Project webpage: https://tabledebates.org/meat

    Take the values-based quiz: https://tabledebates.org/meat/quiz

    Music by Blue dot Sessions and Epidemic sound.

    • 53 min
    6. Plant-based - Planet friendly or unnatural?

    6. Plant-based - Planet friendly or unnatural?

    Should we remove animals from agriculture and our diets altogether? What if all the land that produces animal feed now could instead produce human food--or be rewilded? Would this be a planet friendly future--or impoverished and unnatural?

    In this fourth and final scenario: the plant-based no meat future, we explore the motivations, the evidence and the arguments for adopting a diet that centers and celebrates plants. We visit a vegan restaurant in Stockholm, Sweden; a vegan food tech company in Lagos, Nigeria; and an animal free farm outside of Reading in the United Kingdom.

    But is dietary change at a societal scale unrealistic? Is this the most sustainable, ethical and efficient approach to eating and producing food? We explore all this and more.

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    Visit the episode page with more resources: https://tabledebates.org/meat/episode6

    Project webpage: https://tabledebates.org/meat

    Take the values-based quiz: https://tabledebates.org/meat/quiz

    Subscribe to the newsletter: https://tabledebates.org/meat/newsletter

    Add your voice to the podcast: https://tabledebates.org/meat/contribute

    Music by Blue dot Sessions and Epidemic sound.

    • 1 hr 18 min
    5. Less meat - Win, win, win or elitist?

    5. Less meat - Win, win, win or elitist?

    What if we had a more compassionate approach to farming animals, where we raised and ate fewer animals - and so meat cost more?

    We speak with farmers, researchers and campaigners who don’t see farmed animals only as producers of meat and milk, but instead highlight their ability to manage landscapes and to recycle waste and nutrients. They cannot imagine sustainable cropping systems without livestock.

    In this less meat future, would this be a win-win-win for animals, people and the planet or is it an unrealistic and elitist vision?

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    Visit the episode page with more resources: https://tabledebates.org/meat/episode5

    Project webpage: https://tabledebates.org/meat

    Take the values-based quiz: https://tabledebates.org/meat/quiz

    Subscribe to the newsletter: https://tabledebates.org/meat/newsletter

    Add your voice to the podcast: https://tabledebates.org/meat/contribute

    Music by Blue dot Sessions and Epidemic sound.

    • 1 hr 9 min
    4. Alternative 'meat' - Utopia or dystopia?

    4. Alternative 'meat' - Utopia or dystopia?

    What do some entrepreneurs, venture capitalists, animal activists, and environmentalists have in common? They each envision a future where meat alternatives can tackle the environmental impacts and animal suffering caused by global livestock production.

    But in this futuristic vision of replacing livestock with plant-based substitutes and cultivating meat in labs from animal cells - are we living in a utopia or a dystopia?

    We speak with scientists, investors, and CEOs from across the world to better understand the motivations, scientific basis, and evidence that either support or raise concerns about the future of alternative 'meat'.

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    Visit the episode page with more resources: https://tabledebates.org/meat/episode4

    Project webpage: https://tabledebates.org/meat

    Take the values-based quiz: https://tabledebates.org/meat/quiz

    Subscribe to the newsletter: https://tabledebates.org/meat/newsletter

    Add your voice to the podcast: https://tabledebates.org/meat/contribute

    Music by Blue dot Sessions and Epidemic sound.

    • 56 min

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