The Out of the Cave Podcast Lisa Schlosberg

Lisa describes an online incident, “Eyebrow Gate”, where a video mocking her eyebrows went viral, leading to a flood of negative comments and harassment across various platforms, including Instagram, email, and even her personal cell phone.

Topics Include:


Online Harassment
Resilience
Self-Compassion and Support
Personal Growth and Healing

[3:00] Lisa discusses what happened in the events that led to Eyebrow Gate and her experience of it. 

[14:10] Lisa then discusses what she did, how she moved through the experience of being harassed online, and her coping strategies. Lisa talks about feeling her feelings, not stopping herself from experiencing them. She talks about navigating her feelings with embarrassment and finally accepting them through all of this. She discusses the support system she had in her friends and the self-compassion she showed herself during this time.

[33:05] Lisa shares her takeaways and reflections from going through the whole experience. Lisa talks about the things people said that were meant to be supportive but only made her feel not seen and the things she wished they had said instead. She discusses her experience dealing with her inner child in a compassionate way and how we should always show ourselves kindness and compassion.

[48:45] Lisa concludes with sharing the next steps for herself now that she is on the other side of the harassment. She explains how she is proceeding as the person she wishes to be and is operating under that persona.

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Lisa interviews Erin, OOTC group coaching alum, an animal loving veterinarian who, through the group coaching program, has achieved significant personal growth and changes in a matter of months, which years of therapy couldn’t achieve. She also has learned to accept herself and has a community of acceptance without judgment allowing her to finally have a feeling of safety.

Topics Include:


Early Struggles with Food and Body Image
Body Image and Self-Worth
Eating Disorder and Mental Health
Personal Growth and Healing Journey

[3:00] Erin discusses the early stages of life, from ages 0-5 and 5-10, and the lack of significant issues with food or body image. However, from ages 5-10, she started receiving messages about being too big and weighing too much, primarily after pediatrician appointments, leading to a restricted diet by her mother

[11:00] Erin shares her decision to lose weight before starting high school by counting calories and increasing physical activity and how this weight loss led to a boost in self-esteem and more attention from her peers

[14:00] Erin goes on to discuss how the loss of her first relationship led to feeling of inadequacy and how comments about her body affected her self-image and ultimately the beginning of her experience with bulimia 

[37:00] Erin and Lisa discuss Erin’s belief that being thinner would lead to happiness and fulfillment persisted until finally admitting to her husband that she had a problem and made the commitment to seek therapy and work on recovery

[40:11] Erin recounts finding the OOTC podcast and how Lisa’s approach deeply resonated with her and made her feel understood and less alone; after two years of listening to the podcast and following Lisa on social media, Erin decided to join the group coaching program

[46:00] Erin and Lisa discuss the importance of recognizing one’s worth and deservingness of healing, love, safety, and stability in life, body, and relationship with food

[50:03] Erin closes out with her gratitude that through the group coaching program has found a community of accepting and non-judgmental people where she can be vulnerable 

*The views of podcast guests do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of Lisa Schlosberg or Out of the Cave, LLC.

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Join Lisa as she talks to Out of the Cave group coaching alum,
Muna. Topics include: Muna's journey from childhood to adolescence, exploring her evolving relationship with food, body image, cultural influences, and the change in family dynamics. The conversation continues as Muna describes her experiences with disordered eating, specifically bingeing, purging, and later developing a restrictive relationship with food, intertwined with addictive marijuana use. Muna describes how a mountain biking accident led to a period of grief and loss of identity, triggering binge eating as a coping mechanism. This behavior persisted into early adulthood, alongside struggles with depression and insomnia. Muna talks about finding relief from insomnia through marijuana use, which then evolved into an addictive coping mechanism. Muna describes receiving praise for weight loss, leading to a restrictive relationship with food out of fear of losing attention gained from weight loss. Muna recalls how this cycle persisted for decades, and how even though she was maintaining a successful outward appearance, she was struggling internally with disordered eating and addiction. Muna discusses how she experienced addiction transfer and cross addiction, moving from one addictive behavior to another without addressing the underlying issues. Lisa and Muna continue the discussion with Muna’s relapse during the pandemic and her new road to recovery. Muna discusses the significance of grief work in her personal growth and recovery and how it is an essential aspect of healing. Muna also shares free recovery resources. Lisa and Muna wrap up the conversation with a discussion of the importance of community and how it makes a difference in recovery and how the OOTC group coaching program helped bring that to her.

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Join Lisa as she continues her conversation with Julie Markowitz, a licensed social worker and psychotherapist who specializes in treating chronic pain, as they continue to discuss Julie’s healing journey to her true self. Topics include: [02:10] trigger warnings and their place in weight loss and chronic pain relationships, the difference between taking care of yourself and avoidance, [09:17] Lisa and Julie talk about Julie’s recovery from disordered eating and how intuitive eating played a part in it, [12:38] they talk about wavering through recovery and feeling safe through perceived threats, [16:25] Lisa and Julie go deeper into how Julie learned about intuitive eating, and how healing from disordered eating isn’t just about the food but healing the whole person, [19:40] Julie explains more about what weight science is, weight set point, why diets don’t work, and the Minnesota Starvation Study, how Julie couldn’t control her weight the way she thought she could, and how the body needed to gain weight until it felt safe enough to regulate, [25:35] Julie and Lisa discuss how doctors fail to correlate the relationship between their disordered eating and their loss of menstruation, how the return of that was a sign of health , [29:36] Julie and Lisa further explore the recovery process and learning how to eat again, their recovery from disordered eating, the feelings around that, and the importance of finding the right supports to get through the process, [37:00] Julie discusses navigating recovery through the rough times, intentional weight loss, and the feelings around people commenting on her body, [54:00] Julie and Lisa discuss the pivotal moment of finding movement that feels good the body, how yoga helped improve their relationships with their bodies, and explore using exercise not for weight loss but as a way for your body to feel good, [1:02:00] Julie closes out with emphasizing that the recovery process cannot be rushed and recovery does not look the same for everyone. Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts. Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form. Register for
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Join Lisa as she sits with Julie Markowitz, a licensed
social worker and psychotherapist who specializes in treating chronic pain, as they discuss Julie’s healing journey to her true self. Topics include: [03:10] Julie discusses her personal journey through anxiety, disordered eating, chronic pain, and depression, [11:10] Lisa and Julie talk about the overlap between chronic pain and disordered eating, [15:49] Julie defines and discusses Complex PTSD, [21:27] Lisa and Julie talk about falling through the cracks medically and her eating disorder and the rewards of looking thin, [27:00] Julie talks about the isolation and shame of having an eating disorder and the fear of recovering, [34:27] Julie and Lisa discuss choosing
recovery, [45:25] Julie talks about the vulnerability in recovery and opening yourself up to relationships with other people, and [1:02:00] Julie closes out with how to begin on the path to authenticity. Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts. Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form. Register for Group Coaching! Email Lisa at lisa@lisaschlosberg.com. Become a member of the Out of the Cave Online Community – Includes Two Live Coaching Calls Monthly Out of the Cave Merch for 10% off use code SCHLOS10 Socials Instagram Facebook YouTube

Lisa sits down with Dr. David Wiss to talk about using nutrition as a healing modality in recovery from addiction and how he invites nuance in as he works with clients who struggle with disordered eating from a mind-body approach.
Topics Include:

Neurochemistry and hedonic (rewards based) eating

Ultra-Processed Food Addiction

Qualitative approach to nutrition

[5 types of] Restriction vs Dietary Restraint


[11:40] Dr. Wiss speaks to the overlap between food addiction and eating disorders, and the difficulty of having open conversations about the topic in the current climate of binary thinking
[23:00] Dr. Wiss talks about accessing the “Wise Mind,” not thinking in extremes, and addressing black and white thinking
[34:00] Dr. Wiss shares how and why he works with clients to deconstruct old approaches and take the math out of nutrition and how one behavior can be totally functional for one person and disordered for another
[47:00] Dr. Wiss explains what it means to be food positive and how he uses that mindset when working with clients
[53:00] Dr. Wiss how he has made working with him accessible through his app Wise Mind Nutrition
*The views and beliefs of podcast guests do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of Lisa Schlosberg or Out of the Cave, LLC.
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