11 episodes

Society is fragmented. Dialogue is how we heal it. Bring the concept of Dialogue into your life and the way you work, through a series of interviews with the author of a New Kind of Dialogue, Peter Garrett.

Jane Ball, co-founder of Dialogue Associates, sits down with Peter to reflect on the lifetime of colourful first-hand experiences that have shaped his understanding of human connection, from his childhood growing up in the African bush, to his work bringing groups of hardened criminals and prison guards together in conversation, and his career addressing organisational fragmentation.

A New Kind of Dialogue Academy of Professional Dialogue

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Society is fragmented. Dialogue is how we heal it. Bring the concept of Dialogue into your life and the way you work, through a series of interviews with the author of a New Kind of Dialogue, Peter Garrett.

Jane Ball, co-founder of Dialogue Associates, sits down with Peter to reflect on the lifetime of colourful first-hand experiences that have shaped his understanding of human connection, from his childhood growing up in the African bush, to his work bringing groups of hardened criminals and prison guards together in conversation, and his career addressing organisational fragmentation.

    The World Needs Dialogue - Birth of the Academy of Professional Dialogue

    The World Needs Dialogue - Birth of the Academy of Professional Dialogue

    Dialogue is not just a solution for organisations - they’re just the beginning. Dialogue could be, and is the answer to healing all of the world’s problems. The potential is vast and unending, but how to make it reach this wider consciousness?

    Delving into the final chapters of Peter’s book, we learn how Dialogue is now beginning to reach all corners of the globe, as its wider societal impact is furthered through the creation of the Academy of Professional Dialogue. And as the final episode of the series, Jane and Peter reflect on what they’ve each learned from recording this podcast and the many stories that have come up along the way.

    This is where it all ends. But don’t worry, the story continues. Stay tuned for what’s next from Jane and Peter.

    In this episode you will learn:


    Why it was important to establish Dialogue as a profession, implementing accreditation, rather than simply creating a Dialogue network.
    The most refined version of what Dialogue is, and how the academy defines the practice.
    Why Dialogue requires long-term thinking, inner inquiry and thinking from the perspective of the whole.
    Why the time is NOW for you to give Dialogue a go.

    Highlights:

    (4:14) Establishing a profession of Dialogue

    (9:32) What does the academy do?

    (14:09) A definition of Dialogue

    (22:10) The time has come

    (27:43) The need for Dialogue

    (30:19) A question from Thomas Kottner

    (33:33) Reflections on the podcast

    (40:14) Inner inquiries

    (44:10) Thinking from the perspective of the whole

    (49:43) I want to change the WORLD

    (53:26) An intimidating council meeting

    (55:12) The final question

    With this, and every episode, we invite you to reflect both on the stories being told, and also your own first-hand experiences that have guided you to this moment in your life.

    Special Guest:

    Thomas Kottner, experienced Executive Coach and Trustee of the Academy of Professional Dialogue.

    About the Podcast:

    Your host is Jane Ball, in conversation with Peter Garrett. Together, they unravel the true meaning of Dialogue, exploring how we are all interconnected and why mastering Dialogue can change the way we work and live our lives.

    If you found today's discussion inspiring, please leave a review, rate us five stars, and subscribe to never miss an episode.

    Connect with the Hosts:

    To find out more about Jane and Peter’s work, visit Dialogue Associates.To buy Peter’s book, A New Kind of Dialogue, click the link here. Also available as an eBook.

    • 58 min
    Rooting Out Fragmentation - Dialogue Becomes Whole 

    Rooting Out Fragmentation - Dialogue Becomes Whole 

    Everything Peter - and you - has learned about Dialogue now becomes whole. Here we see an integrated model develop, punctuated by four impactful theories which blend together everything from consciousness to how Dialogue makes change happen.

    Through compelling anecdotes and personal experiences, Peter then leads a discussion about the eight axioms of Dialogue, which draw on the narrative and learnings from the story so far. Principles like “nothing happens by chance” and “fragmentation is a generic problem in the world”. 

    In this episode you will learn:


    What an integrated model is and why it’s important to pull together many practices and theories, like these, so each element becomes an echo of the other.
    About each of the eight axioms of Dialogue and how they can be integrated into your way of thinking about the world.
    That there is hope. We can heal all of the problems that exist in the world, by addressing the root cause - fragmentation.
    What you need to know if you have come this far and want to become a Dialogue practitioner yourself!

    Highlights:

    (1:52) What is an “integrated model”?

    (5:05) The four theories of Dialogue

    (6:27) The Dialogic theory of the thing

    (11:14) The Dialogic theory of change

    (14:19) The Dialogic theory of practice

    (16:47) The Dialogic theory of the person

    (21:02) The 8 axioms of Dialogue

    (32:26) The Dialogic intention and the role of the practitioner

    (41:20) Learning the intentions

    (44:48) A question from Jim Tebbe

    With this, and every episode, we invite you to reflect both on the stories being told, and also your own first-hand experiences that have guided you to this moment in your life.

    Special Guest:

    Jim Tebbe, member of the professional standards and accreditation board of the Academy of Professional Dialogue.

    About the Podcast:

    Your host is Jane Ball, in conversation with Peter Garrett. Together, they unravel the true meaning of Dialogue, exploring how we are all interconnected and why mastering Dialogue can change the way we work and live our lives.

    If you found today's discussion inspiring, please leave a review, rate us five stars, and subscribe to never miss an episode.

    Connect with the Hosts:

    To find out more about Jane and Peter’s work, visit Dialogue Associates.

    To buy Peter’s book, A New Kind of Dialogue, click the link here. Also available as an eBook.

    • 51 min
    Finding a Common Understanding - Healing the Fragmentation

    Finding a Common Understanding - Healing the Fragmentation

    Dialogue has found a place in all types of organisations, from prisons to SMEs to multinational corporations. It has moved beyond single team interventions to something that impacts and changes whole systems. But how it does that depends on the type of system it’s being introduced into - open or closed reporting lines.

    In this episode Peter shares examples of open and closed systems he’s worked with and explains the different ways Dialogue has addressed fragmentation in both. And he explores how you can most effectively open communication within an organisation by using Dialogue as a research methodology. 

    In this episode you will learn:


    About Peter’s theory of ‘two in agreement’ and what traits he looks for in the leaders and teams he works with
    How Dialogue can reposition a command and control style leadership
    About the gang and drug culture of Trinidad, and why Peter was asked to intervene
    How to turn Dialogue into research, so it can be converted into action

    Highlights:

    (3:10) Why does Dialogue need an architecture?

    (6:07) Two in agreement - what Peter looks for in a leader

    (9:19) The story of Tufan Erginbilgic, who did things differently

    (14:34) Harold Clarke and dealing with a command and control leadership

    (26:26) Serving the Commonwealth of Virginia

    (29:28) The Offender Resettlement Journey

    (34:19) Dialogue as systemic architecture in open systems - working in Trinidad

    (43:04) Migration work

    (47:35) Dialogue as a research methodology

    (51:55) Why Jane and Peter end up in extreme situations

    (54:31) Question from June Boyle

    With this, and every episode, we invite you to reflect both on the stories being told, and also your own first-hand experiences that have guided you to this moment in your life.

    Special Guest:

    June Boyle, an expert in HR and organisational effectiveness and chair of the board at Napier University.

    About the Podcast:

    Your host is Jane Ball, in conversation with Peter Garrett. Together, they unravel the true meaning of Dialogue, exploring how we are all interconnected and why mastering Dialogue can change the way we work and live our lives.

    If you found today's discussion inspiring, please leave a review, rate us five stars, and subscribe to never miss an episode.

    Connect with the Hosts:

    To find out more about Jane and Peter’s work, visit Dialogue Associates.

    To buy Peter’s book, A New Kind of Dialogue, click the link here. Also available as an eBook.

    • 59 min
    ALL people are intelligent and compassionate, revealed through DIALOGUE

    ALL people are intelligent and compassionate, revealed through DIALOGUE

    What exactly is Dialogue? Its applications have proven to be numerous and its impact undeniable. But until now we’ve not offered a structured definition. That doesn’t work so well in the world of business, where deadlines need to be met and budgets spent wisely. So, to get into organisations, the main source of fragmentation in our world, Peter gets to work codifying the practice he’s been developing all these years.

    In this episode you will learn:


    That fragmentation doesn’t just exist within organisations, but that organisations are the main source of fragmentation in our society.


    Why ‘check-ins' are an essential ingredient to meaningful Dialogue, and how to use them yourself.


    The difference between the Dialogic ‘modes’ - monologue, debate, discussion, conversation, skilful conversation, Dialogue and Generative Dialogue.


    About the Dialogic Principles and how the ‘process’ of Dialogue uncovers the roots of an organisation’s issues and problems.



    Highlights:

    (1:47) Organisations are the main source of fragmentation in our society

    (5:26) Getting senior leadership to take up Dialogue

    (12:11) Introducing the Dialogic modes

    (16:03) The Dialogic actions based on David Kanto’s Four Player model

    (21:18) How an organisation benefits from Dialogue

    (24:39) Dialogue as a practise and codifying the model

    (37:17) The Leading Energies: four ways to think about leadership

    (41:54) Dialogue as a process

    (46:48) The Dialogic principles

    (51:38) Question from guest speaker Parvin Daeipour

    With this, and every episode, we invite you to reflect both on the stories being told, and also your own first-hand experiences that have guided you to this moment in your life.

    Special Guest:

    Parvin Daeipour, a clinical psychologist who has been running the Endless path of Dialogue Institute in Tehran for over 20 years.

    About the Podcast:

    Your host is Jane Ball, in conversation with Peter Garrett. Together, they unravel the true meaning of Dialogue, exploring how we are all interconnected and why mastering Dialogue can change the way we work and live our lives.

    If you found today's discussion inspiring, please leave a review, rate us five stars, and subscribe to never miss an episode.

    Connect with the Hosts:

    To find out more about Jane and Peter’s work, visit Dialogue Associates.To buy Peter’s book, A New Kind of Dialogue, click the link here. Also available as an eBook.

    • 59 min
    Why organisations are fragmented, and how ‘radical openness’ can fix them

    Why organisations are fragmented, and how ‘radical openness’ can fix them

    From prisons to the corporate world of organisations, the remit of Dialogue expands further as Peter looks to heal  ‘a pervasive area of fragmentation’ in our society. First we canter through Peter’s fascinating history within organisations, beginning with his first day in school, right through to working as a builder’s merchant, a bank cleric, running his own businesses and becoming a consultant. All of this unpacking Peter’s many learnings that led him to bring Dialogue into the workplace - and in particular, within the BP offices in Grangemouth, Scotland.

    In this episode you will learn:


    Why the disconnect between ‘Head Office’ and workers on the ground creates so much fragmentation within organisations


    That good managers support the development of their team members, even when it’s time for them to leave and find a new job


    The true meaning of work ‘culture’, and how to create healthy containers


    How Peter’s theory of ‘radical openness’ changed the game for many of BP’s businesses



    Highlights:

    (0:00) Intro

    (2:01) Lessons from Peter’s first day at school

    (6:33) Peter’s first paid role

    (11:56) The influence of Peter’s dad

    (14:47) The problem with ‘Head Office’ and good vs poor containers

    (25:43) Running his own businesses

    (29:02) Beginning of Peter’s consultancy work

    (34:28) Why teaching became part of the process of Dialogue

    (37:34) First consulting gig at BP in Grangemouth

    (41:41) The theory of “radical openness”

    (47:10) Yet another f***ing reorganisation

    (55:11) A question from Meg Bower

    With this, and every episode, we invite you to reflect both on the stories being told, and also your own first-hand experiences that have guided you to this moment in your life.

    Special Guest:

    Meg Bower, Owner of Trunk Branch Twig Bud, LLC

    About the Podcast:

    Your host is Jane Ball, in conversation with Peter Garrett. Together, they unravel the true meaning of Dialogue, exploring how we are all interconnected and why mastering Dialogue can change the way we work and live our lives.

    If you found today's discussion inspiring, please leave a review, rate us five stars, and subscribe to never miss an episode.

    Connect with the Hosts:

    To find out more about Jane and Peter’s work, visit Dialogue Associates.

    To buy Peter’s book, A New Kind of Dialogue, click the link here. Also available as an eBook.

    • 59 min
    Hitmen, sex offenders and serial murderers: Transforming prisons through Dialogue

    Hitmen, sex offenders and serial murderers: Transforming prisons through Dialogue

    By this point in the story, Dialogue had become a firm fixture at HMP Whitemoor, and Peter was regularly convening sessions with some of the most violent criminals in the prison. Like an unexplored part of the world waiting to be travelled, Peter met all manner of people he’d have never otherwise encountered. Whether hitmen or rapists, the stakes were high and the challenges were many, but the value of Dialogue shone through, later taking Peter into HMP Long Lartin and Blakenhurst prisons too.

    In this episode you will learn:


    About the challenges of working with such a wide range of incarcerated individuals


    About a standoff between Peter and a fearsome prisoner who turned up to a Dialogue in his underpants!


    About the profound impact of community Dialogue sessions, which placed people on parole together with other members of the community


    And how the violence of the prisoners in one prison wing was so feared, the door to the Dialogue room was taken off its hinges



    Highlights:

    (1:42) Experiences from Whitemoor Prison

    (5:27) Dreadlocks and underpants - Peter’s standoff

    (11:23) The difficulty of working with serious offenders

    (13:35) The Right Relationships Conference - a radical innovation

    (20:35) Dialogue in the community - stories of those on parole

    (24:17) Beginning Dialogue in HMP Long Lartin

    (31:29) Another prison - Blakenhurst 

    (36:49) Jane enters the story - Dialogue on F Wing

    (43:41) How prison changed Dialogue

    (48:08) A question from Harold Clarke

    With this, and every episode, we invite you to reflect both on the stories being told, and also your own first-hand experiences that have guided you to this moment in your life.

    Special Guest:

    Harold Clarke, former Director of Virginia Department of Corrections

    About the Podcast:

    Your host is Jane Ball, in conversation with Peter Garrett. Together, they unravel the true meaning of Dialogue, exploring how we are all interconnected and why mastering Dialogue can change the way we work and live our lives.

    If you found today's discussion inspiring, please leave a review, rate us five stars, and subscribe to never miss an episode.

    Connect with the Hosts:

    To find out more about Jane and Peter’s work, visit Dialogue Associates.

    To buy Peter’s book, A New Kind of Dialogue, click the link here. Also available as an eBook.

    • 53 min

Customer Reviews

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Dialogue is the vital antidote to a fragmented society

Congratulation Jane and Peter. I am still trying to find time to get through the 440 pages of the book by the same name. The podcast is a lot easier and is really very good indeed. I think I will probably listen to it all several times because it’s content is very important and I also believe that the problem of society today is fragmentation of society and the answer is group dialogue. I hope Peter’s lucid description of the process will move the adoption of dialogue groups forward with greater speed.

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