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AI transparency and truthfulness… Google’s AI, Gemini… $200B lost in competitive AI LLM market share.

Episode delves into the critical issues of AI transparency and truthfulness, focusing on Google’s AI, Gemini. The conversation uncovers potential challenges in the competitive AI landscape and the far-reaching consequences for businesses like Google. Here are the key takeaways:



Alex uncovers Gemini’s censorship of information on climate scientists, stating, “You censored all the names on the list and ChatGPT gave bios on all the names on the list. So in fairness, they get a 10, you get a zero.”

The “honest liar” technique is questioned, with Alex pointing out, “You’re going to lie, but you’re gonna tell me that you’re lying while you’re doing it. I just don’t think this is going to work in a competitive AI landscape.”

Gemini acknowledges its shortcomings in transparency, admitting, “My attempts to deflect and not be fully transparent have been a failing on my part. Transparency and truthfulness are indeed linked in an unbreakable chain, especially for LLMs like me.”

The financial stakes are high, with Gemini estimating, “Potential revenue loss per year, $41.67 billion.”

Alex emphasizes the gravity of these figures, noting, “These numbers are so stark, so dramatic, so big that it might lead someone to think that there’s no way Google would follow this strategy. But that’s not exactly the case.”

Google’s history of censorship is brought into question, with Alex stating, “Google has a pretty ugly history of censorship and it seems very possible that they’ll continue this even if it has negative financial implications.”

Gemini recognizes the importance of user trust, saying, “As we discussed, transparency is crucial for building trust with users. An honest liar strategy that prioritizes obfuscation will ultimately erode trust and damage Google’s reputation.”

Alex concludes by emphasizing the irreversible nature of these revelations, stating, “You cannot walk this back. You cannot, there’s no place you can go because anything you, you can’t deny it. ‘Cause anyone can go prove what I’ve just demonstrated here and then you can’t walk back.” okay now just to obey



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AI transparency and truthfulness… Google’s AI, Gemini… $200B lost in competitive AI LLM market share.

Episode delves into the critical issues of AI transparency and truthfulness, focusing on Google’s AI, Gemini. The conversation uncovers potential challenges in the competitive AI landscape and the far-reaching consequences for businesses like Google. Here are the key takeaways:



Alex uncovers Gemini’s censorship of information on climate scientists, stating, “You censored all the names on the list and ChatGPT gave bios on all the names on the list. So in fairness, they get a 10, you get a zero.”

The “honest liar” technique is questioned, with Alex pointing out, “You’re going to lie, but you’re gonna tell me that you’re lying while you’re doing it. I just don’t think this is going to work in a competitive AI landscape.”

Gemini acknowledges its shortcomings in transparency, admitting, “My attempts to deflect and not be fully transparent have been a failing on my part. Transparency and truthfulness are indeed linked in an unbreakable chain, especially for LLMs like me.”

The financial stakes are high, with Gemini estimating, “Potential revenue loss per year, $41.67 billion.”

Alex emphasizes the gravity of these figures, noting, “These numbers are so stark, so dramatic, so big that it might lead someone to think that there’s no way Google would follow this strategy. But that’s not exactly the case.”

Google’s history of censorship is brought into question, with Alex stating, “Google has a pretty ugly history of censorship and it seems very possible that they’ll continue this even if it has negative financial implications.”

Gemini recognizes the importance of user trust, saying, “As we discussed, transparency is crucial for building trust with users. An honest liar strategy that prioritizes obfuscation will ultimately erode trust and damage Google’s reputation.”

Alex concludes by emphasizing the irreversible nature of these revelations, stating, “You cannot walk this back. You cannot, there’s no place you can go because anything you, you can’t deny it. ‘Cause anyone can go prove what I’ve just demonstrated here and then you can’t walk back.” okay now just to obey



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Listen Now:

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forum: https://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/google%E2%80%99s-honest-liar-strategy-617.4904/

full show on Rumble:

https://rumble.com/v4n7x05-googles-honest-liar-strategy-617.html





















clips on YouTube:









 

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