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    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: How to talk to Europe about shipping

    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: How to talk to Europe about shipping

    In this pivotal year of global elections where the power blocs are squaring up to each other over trade, macroeconomic circumstance has thrust shipping into the limelight.
    Shipping has a window of opportunity to insert itself at the heart of the big political discussions by reminding politicians of the central role that national fleets and maritime sectors play in keeping economies and trade afloat.
    From supply chain vulnerabilities to energy security, government and the general public at large have never been more aware of the intrinsic role that shipping plays in its daily lives.
    Trade is still coupled with economic growth in Europe and the influence of European shipping on the supply chain needs to be taken into account.
    There is an opportunity to position shipping more centrally in whatever flavour of European politics emerges triumphant this summer.
    But is this industry ready and prepared to capitalise on its visibility by having a grown-up conversation with policymakers and regulators?
    The jury is out.
    Joining Lloyd’s List editor-in-chief this week to discuss whether we are having the right conversations in European shipping are:
    • Magda Kopczyńska the director general for the European Commission’s DG Move – the directorate of Mobility and Transport

    • Sotiris Raptis, secretary general of the European Community Shipowners’ association

    • 26 min
    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: Is it possible to order a future-proofed ship today?

    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: Is it possible to order a future-proofed ship today?

    Shipping is getting increasingly more complex and more expensive.
    On balance, that could be a good thing in that it forces the hand of an industry that has been too cheap for too long and the direction of regulatory travel now at least favours the progressives over the laggards.
    But we don’t know the detail. We don’t know what fuel availability or costs looks like. We don’t know the detail of what market based mechanism or fuel standard will emerge – or even if it will. We don’t know when ships ordered today are realistically going to be filling their duel-fuelled tanks with which fuels at what price.
    And that makes decisions today about newbuildings difficult.
    Difficult, but not impossible.
    It is possible to make the least worst decisions and factor in sufficient flexibility to be reasonably sure that the order you place today is not going to be a stranded asset in the next decade.
    And yet large swathes of the industry seem to be using the energy transition as an excuse for inaction.
    So this week’s edition of the podcast offers all the hesitant fence sitters out there a much needed dose of persuasive expertise advocating for fully risk-assessed progressive change.
    James Frew is a Business Consultancy Director at Lloyd's Register who has spent a lot of time advising clients on how to make the decision that comes with least regrets when it comes to newbuilding and optimisation.

    In this week’s edition Frew sits down with Lloyd’s List editor Richard Meade to discuss:

    • How newbuilding and retrofit decisions can be optimised with sufficient flexibility to sail through regulatory and fuel

    uncertainties while avoiding the risk of stranded assets
    • Why increasing complexities around fuel procurement will not favour the smaller tramp owners

    • Why e-fuels are an inevitable part of shipping’s transition and many ships will have to factor in multiple fuel choices over the coming years

    • 19 min
    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: How long can Ukraine keep its grain corridor open?

    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: How long can Ukraine keep its grain corridor open?

    LAST July Ukraine’s deep sea maritime trade dried up with the collapse of the Black Sea Initiative.

    Within days Ukraine put forward a proposal to the UN detailing a route that would see ships sailing through Romanian waters to reach the greater Odesa ports. In August Ukraine announced the opening of a “humanitarian” corridor, pitching the route as a way to evacuate stranded ships.

    The initial departures were indeed stuck ships, but in September the first vessels started to arrive from foreign markets and this so-called “new” Black Sea corridor was officially open for business.

    Since then over 1000 ships have exported nearly 30m tonnes from Ukraine, helping to fuel the country’s wartime economy and getting large quantities of desperately needed grain back on the market.

    In February NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg attributed the opening of the corridor to Ukraine’s armed forces who have been remarkably successful at pushing Russia’s Black Sea fleet further away from its coasts. “Few believed this was possible just a few months ago”, he said. “But now actually, the export of grain from Ukraine takes place even without an agreement with Russia. So this shows the skills and the competence of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.”

    Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has reinforced the importance of the country’s military in the functioning of the corridor and has warned that Ukraine will struggle to defend the route without additional military aid from the US.

    While the US announced an additional package for Ukraine worth up to $300m earlier this week, the Department of Defense’s supplemental request which includes roughly $60 billion in military aid is still yet to be passed by congress.

    Talking on the podcast this week:

    I.R. Consilium CEO, Ian Ralby

    Head of sanctions advisory at Lloyd's of London, Chris Po-Ba

    Bosphorus Observer's geopolitical analyst, Yörük Işik

    Senior associate at Black Sea Associates, Callum Thomson

    • 17 min
    Sexual harassment, bullying and silence: Australia’s first female marine engineer reveals all

    Sexual harassment, bullying and silence: Australia’s first female marine engineer reveals all

    On International Women’s Day, Stephanie Zank tells Lloyd’s List her story about being a trailblazer in the world of shipping


    As a girl growing up in Australian in the 1980s Stephanie Zank hated office jobs and loved taking things apart and putting them back together.

    When she first stepped on board a ship, she knew that this was the career she wanted.

    But her story isn’t one that we’re normally being told on International Women’s Day.

    Stephanie Zank battled prejudice and abuse from her cadetship and throughout her maritime career that ended in 2014 when she was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy.

    Her story is one that’s normally stays untold or swept under the carpet but occasionally it bubbles to the surface, like the story of Hope Hicks, better known as midshipman X, in 2022.

    “A lot of crew members would make comments, such as ‘you're stealing men's jobs’, which was a fairly common one or ‘I hate you because you're a woman taking a man's job’, but more importantly, I hate you because you're small,” she told Lloyd’s List.

    She recounted two incidents when she was sexually harassed and sexually assaulted and the lack of support and policies in place to deal with such events.

    It’s right that Stephanie’s story is told on International Women’s Day, so that despite the platitudes from many in the maritime world about the progress that’s been made, we remember how far we have yet to go to ensure an equitable and fair workplace exists for all.

    • 19 min
    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: What this year’s P&I renewals mean for shipping

    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: What this year’s P&I renewals mean for shipping

    TUESDAY this week marked P&I renewal day. That’s the name given to the annual hard deadline for the 90% of the world fleet by tonnage entered with International Group P&I clubs to renew their liability insurance for the following year.
    Historically, the date was considered the first on which Baltic ports were sufficiently ice free to be navigable. That looks rather quaint in these days of global warning. But 20 February is now hallowed by tradition, and doing things on 1 January like everybody else would just be boring.
    So this week, as is now tradition, we are dedicating the podcast to examining the fallout from the annual P&I renewals.
    In 2024, things have been rather quiet by previous standards, as it goes. No major fleets are thought to have changed hands in search of better insurance deals.
    The number of owners opting to do so has been in decline for some time. Clubs actively disincentivise such behaviour with a mechanism known as release calls. In plain English, that’s a penalty imposed for switching.
    Premium increases were modest. Clubs were officially looking for general or target increases in the 5% to 7.5% range. But those headline rate hikes should be seen as opening bids in negotiations with brokers. In practice, most deals were settled at about two-thirds of that.
    We recorded this podcast on the afternoon of Thursday 22nd February, by which point several clubs had made preliminary announcements about how well they have done. Five said that had gained tonnage. To name check them, they were Gard, NorthStandard, Skuld, West of England and Steamship Mutual.
    As subscribers know, Lloyd’s List offers readers easily the best marine insurance coverage available anywhere, and naturally we asked insurance editor David Osler to round up a cross-selection of the P&I people to discuss the latest developments.
    Speaking on this year’s P&I round up:

    Alex Vullo, to divisional director of Gallagher’s P&I practice

    Anna Vourgos, a director of Cyprus-based Aphentrica,

    William Beveridge, chief underwriting officer of the UK Club.

    • 28 min
    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: Why the flagging standards of flag states are a problem for everyone

    The Lloyd’s List Podcast: Why the flagging standards of flag states are a problem for everyone

    THE shipping industry has a problem that it doesn’t like to talk about. A dark secret.
    Safety standards, by and large, have been steadily improving over recent decades. Ship casualties and incidents reached an all-time low, in spite of a global pandemic and a steady tightening of regulatory standards have raised the bar across the board.
    But there is a significant and growing fleet of ships to which none of this applies.
    An unprecedented deluge of sanctions has divided the industry between those operating within the established rules-based order of safety conventions, class, insurance and international oversight, versus a worryingly large section of the fleet that has disappeared off the radar.
    The serious and significant safety threat that the dark fleet poses has been well documented, not least by Lloyd’s List. But the ships themselves are only part of the problem. There is a whole infrastructure that is supporting this return to opacity at the bottom of the industry.
    This is not simply another sanctions story.
    Fraudulently flagged ships are hopping effortlessly between registries unable or unwilling to tackle their lawless flouting of the established rules-based order. These are vessels that in some cases make the Dark Fleet look like law abiding citizens by comparison - often with no flag, no insurance and an impenetrable nexus of state-sponsored opacity readily supporting their illicit movements behind the scenes.
    These ships do not operate in isolation – they only exist and are able to trade because they are able to operate with a combination of direct support and tacit complicity from companies, institutions and governments willing to turn a blind eye.
    The support networks are complex and opaque, but at the top of it all there are governments failing to provide meaningful oversight of ships flying their flag.
    And that’s where the podcast this focussed its attention. The
    Safety standards at the top of the industry have largely improved, but the worst bits of shipping are getting worse, and that is a serious problem for everyone.

    Talking on the podcast this week:
    • RightShip chief executive chief executive, Steen Brodsgaard Lund
    • International Chamber of Shipping secretary general, Guy Platten

    • 23 min

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