BONUS! What do Philip Mac Cabe and Simone Biles Have in Common?

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Things we discuss in this episode include:

• Beatrice's #1 obsession, Stuart Mackey (not Stuart Mackenzie)
• Padma Lakshmi (above) licking yoghurt off her paw
• Cher's chicken shop date
• Sarah Manguso's Guardian interview on her new book, Liars
• Earth Breeze laundry detergent sheets 

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