5. Ainsley Harriott - Racism in the food industry and becoming a meme

Rylan speaks to TV chef and national treasure Ainsley Harriott about life in the spotlight. Ainsley tells Rylan about dealing with racism as a chef, providing in-flight entertainment for Richard Branson, and how he’s enjoyed becoming a Gen-Z meme.

How to Be in the Spotlight - Rylan explores the good, the bad and the ugly of being thrust into the spotlight - with those who've lived to tell the tale.

Host: Rylan Assistant Producer: Monetta Pierre Edit Producer: Katie Grant Producer: Millie Chu Production Manager: Francesca Bassett Executive Producers: Barnaby Coughlin and Arron Fellows Music: Miguel d'Oliveira Assistant Commissioner: Will Drysdale Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts A Mindhouse production for BBC Sounds