ana036: Post-Libertarianism | A Strategy for Libertarian Communities?

We grapple with the recent “Post-Libertarian” vs. “Lolbert” schism in the broader liberty movement.

Are libertarian principles antithetical to achieving a libertarian society?

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Intro

What is Post-libertarianism? Are we Lolberts?

Discussion

• A schism in libertarianism: Post-libertarians vs Lolberts
  • The Covid response – Threats of authoritarianism are no longer theoretical
  • Ease of putting draconian measures in place
  • The message of liberty isn’t enough. People aren’t interested in our kind of freedom
  • They will never leave you alone
  • Pete Quinones – the "actually records podcast episodes" strategy
• The Not Racist throat clear
  • Zoning is racist
  • The left runs right to the bottom of the slippery slope
  • Class issues as race issues
  • We solved racism
• Post-libertarianism – What’s it all about?
  • Mostly about racism LOL
  • Former libertarians more focused on pragmatism
  • Lolberts – Libertarians who aren’t serious about actually achieving liberty. Like us!
• The non-aggression principle – not a complete moral theory
  • Adherence to NAP is a means, not an end
  • We’re all shooting for Christ
  • Consequentialist – Free markets tend to lead to better outcomes
  • Misesian utilitarianism – Do my selected means actually achieve my stated ends?
  • All morality is subjective
  • Fruitarianism – A weird thing to get worked up about, just like libertarianism
• Centralized hierarchies are efficient
  • We haven’t released an episode because of a crisis of faith
  • What kind of organization is most efficient?
  • Curtis Yarvin – monarchist thing
  • Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season
  • “I’ve read shit you’ve never even heard of”
  • Right-wing takeover is not a realistic strategy
• Hoppean covenant communities – big fish in a small pond
  • A canonical libertarian solution
  • Libertarians are averse to power
  • Voting Good Actually
  • The most revolutionary thing you can do is go to an area that’s already Republican and vote Republican
  • Disempowerment by Democracy
• Strategies for liberty
  • The Free State Project – Electoral success
  • The Mises Caucus – Splitting the vote?
  • Post-libertarian Strategy – Localism approach, oppose left-wing Democrats with right-wing Republicans
  • Living in a cabin in the woods actually not a great strategy
  • Community – The greatest strength of the Free State Project
  • Clubhouses – The Shell, The Praxeum, The Quill, (Keene Clubhouse???)
  • Dave Smith – The next libertarian presidential candidate?
  • Spreading the message on big platforms
  • L is for Liability
  • If you can’t win, get them talking about issues you care about. Force the debate to happen.
  • The Post-Libertarian strategy – Raise up local elites
  • Bring libertarian message to elites
  • Meta-strategy – An ecosystem of complementary strategies
• Localism
  • Australia’s Agenda 21 regional governments
  • New Hampshire’s town hall meetings
  • The Joe’s garden to Fruitarian pipeline
• A false dichotomy between liberty and power
  • “Freedom” (a word Tim made up) = The ability to act (“Power”) according to your will (“Liberty”)
  • Political power, economic