Think spinach salads and almond milk are the epitome of health? Think again. In this eye-opening episode, Zane sits down with Sally K. Norton, MPH, a leading expert on oxalates and author of Toxic Superfoods: How Oxalate Overload is Making You Sick and How to Get Better. Sally shares her decades of research and personal experiences to uncover how these naturally occurring compounds in many “superfoods” can wreak havoc on your health. From joint pain and fatigue to digestive issues and even neurotoxicity, the impact of oxalates goes beyond what most of us realize. Sally and Zane explore how even the healthiest diets can sometimes be the most harmful and provide actionable advice for mitigating oxalate overload. Whether you’re a green smoothie enthusiast or simply trying to optimize your health, this conversation is a must-listen. What You’ll Learn in This Episode What are oxalates? Sally explains how these plant compounds accumulate in your body and disrupt your health. Which foods contain oxalates? From spinach and almonds to sweet potatoes and chocolate, Sally shares the surprising culprits. Symptoms of oxalate overload: Learn how oxalates can contribute to arthritis, fatigue, kidney stones, and even neurological symptoms. How to reduce oxalates safely: Discover why cutting oxalates too quickly can backfire and how to transition your diet effectively. Risks of very low-carb diets: Sally discusses the metabolic stress associated with extreme diets and their potential impact on longevity. The episode begins with Zane introducing Sally K. Norton, whose deep dive into nutrition science started with her own health struggles. Sally grew up with a "healthy" plant-heavy diet but faced recurring health issues, including arthritis, chronic fatigue, and even debilitating pelvic pain. It wasn’t until her 50s that she connected her symptoms to oxalates—a discovery that transformed her life and career. What Are Oxalates? Oxalates are plant compounds that bind to minerals like calcium in the body, forming crystals that can accumulate in tissues over time. Sally explains how these crystals can irritate connective tissues, disrupt digestion, and even impact neurological health. Foods like spinach, almonds, and sweet potatoes, though often labeled as “superfoods,” are among the highest in oxalates. The Hidden Symptoms Oxalate overload doesn’t always present obvious symptoms, which makes it easy to overlook. Sally recounts her years of undiagnosed issues—foot pain, arthritis, and even insomnia—all tied to her oxalate-rich vegetarian diet. For some, the effects may be subtle, like digestive discomfort or muscle spasms, while others experience more severe conditions, including kidney stones and chronic pain. How to Reduce Oxalates Safely A key takeaway from this episode is the importance of gradual change. Cutting oxalates too quickly can trigger a “dumping” effect, where the body releases stored oxalates too fast, leading to inflammation and other symptoms. Sally recommends starting with high-oxalate foods like almonds and spinach, reducing them slowly while incorporating calcium-rich foods like dairy to help neutralize oxalates. The Risks of Extreme Diets Zane and Sally discuss the growing popularity of very low-carb and carnivore diets. While these can help some individuals reset their systems, Sally warns against long-term adherence, citing the metabolic stress and nutrient deficiencies that can arise. She highlights the importance of balance and bio-individuality when designing a diet for optimal health and longevity. If this episode has you rethinking your diet, don’t miss Sally’s book and resources to help you navigate oxalate reduction safely. Share this episode with anyone who loves their “superfoods,” and be sure to subscribe to the Healthy AF Podcast for more transformative health insights! Links: SallyKNorton.com “Toxic Superfoods: How Oxalate Overload is Making You Sick-and How to Get Better” Data companion: https://sallyknorton.com/toxic_superfoods/data_companion Low Oxalate Cookbook: Shop.SallyKNorton.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFpmJtV19QCyjzaC5U691-A IG: @sknorton X: @BetterLowOx FB: BeFreeToThrive Connect with Zane: Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zanegriggsfitness Website: https://zanegriggs.com ReLyte Electrolytes by Redmond Real Salt: https://shop.redmond.life?afmc=Zane Quick Episode Summary: 0:00 – Introduction to Sally K. Norton and her personal health journey. 3:00 – How oxalates affect the body, from connective tissues to digestion. 12:15 – High-oxalate foods: spinach, almonds, chocolate, and more. 18:30 – Symptoms of oxalate toxicity, including arthritis and fatigue. 34:00 – Why gradual reduction is key to avoiding oxalate “dumping.” 49:00 – The pros and cons of very low-carb diets for long-term health. 55:00 – Sally’s advice for listeners and where to learn more.
