Lifting, Running and Living with Kelly and JK

Kelly Lutz and JK McLeod
  • 4.6 (8)
  • Fitness
  • Updated Biweekly

Welcome to Lifting, Running & Living! As coaches in the fitness space and two humans who love movement (running for Kelly, strength for JK), every episode will contain some element of fitness, plus a variety of other topics we're seeing, dealing with or hearing about. Join us every other Friday for chit chat, tangents & lots of laughing.

  1. 79. Brick Updates, The Enhanced Games, and Coach/Influencer Transparency

    6d ago

    79. Brick Updates, The Enhanced Games, and Coach/Influencer Transparency

    Kelly and JK start with both sharing updates on using Brick, a physical device that blocks apps/websites until you tap the phone to it. JK also announces Help Me Understand will relaunch in July back to broader topics while he starts a new fitness-focused podcast, Make Fitness Make Sense. They then discuss the Enhanced Games and debate whether coaches/influencers should disclose use of PEDs, HRT, fat burners, peptides, or GLP-1s, referencing a GLP-1 disclosure controversy and advising people to look for long-form content to vet consistency and context. 00:20 Episode 79 Topic Tease 01:11 Kelly Brick Explained 07:21 JK Brick Review 15:05 Podcast Relaunch Plans 19:19 Enhanced Games Overview 25:53 Enhanced Games Reactions 33:39 Can Drugs Break Records 36:11 Optimization Manosphere Angle 37:14 Disclosure Rules For Influencers 45:53 Coaches PEDs And Trust 47:10 GLP-1 Controversy Case Study 50:23 How To Vet Fitness Claims 52:08 Wrap Up And Contact Info Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    53 min
  2. 78. Mile Time Trials, Brick & Being “Fit Enough”

    May 22

    78. Mile Time Trials, Brick & Being “Fit Enough”

    Kelly and JK open with quick life and training updates, including a recent track session that turned into a hard mile effort and early impressions of using the Brick device to curb phone and social-media habits. From there, they introduce a broader conversation about what it means to be in a “good place” with fitness and discuss how different environments and platforms can shape self-perception. They close with a few practical ideas for keeping comparison in check and building a clearer personal definition of progress. Timestamps: 01:45 Chicago Trips and Heel Rehab 03:03 Birthday Mile Time Trial 11:37 JK Update The Brick Device 24:14 Main Topic What Is Fit Enough 26:07 When Fitness Feels Enough 26:34 Defining a Good Place 34:55 Fitness for Real Life 37:41 Strava Comparison Spiral 40:23 Exposure Changes Standards 48:13 Practical Tips and Wrap Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    53 min
  3. 77. Did their Shoes End her Career? Abby vs Puma

    May 8

    77. Did their Shoes End her Career? Abby vs Puma

    In episode 77, Kelly recaps a short Chicago work trip, says she’s pausing Runna for at least a month due to slow-healing heel/Achilles pain, and shares that keeping her phone “bricked” during travel felt helpful. JK updates on a week in Alabama, including a stop at Buc-ee’s, training at well-equipped Armor Gym, and accidentally switching to a lower/upper split. The main topic is sprinter Abby Steiner’s April 2026 lawsuit against Puma and Mercedes, alleging carbon plate and Nitrofoam footwear altered her biomechanics, led to repeated foot injuries and surgeries, and may have ended her career, prompting discussion of super shoes, injury risk, and what evidence could surface via discovery or settlement. 01:13 Chicago Trip Recap 06:40 Runna Break and Heel Pain 14:46 Alabama Trip and Brunch 16:42 Why Buc-ees Rules 22:44 Gym Gear and Training Split 27:31 Steiner Lawsuit Overview 29:20 Timeline And Stakes 31:17 What Are Super Shoes 32:34 Injury Patterns And Training Load 43:29 Defect Claims And Reporting 01:00:32 Wrap Up And Sign Off Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    1h 1m
  4. 76. Nike’s Backlash + What Counts as Real Recovery?

    Apr 24

    76. Nike’s Backlash + What Counts as Real Recovery?

    In episode 76 of “Lifting, Running, and Living,” Kelly and JK share updates and discuss two topics: Nike’s marketing backlash and recovery versus active recovery. Kelly reviews the “Brick” and mentions an upcoming work trip to Chicago and debates whether to bring the Brick. JK shares an “April Unplugged” community challenge to eat at least one screen-free meal daily and describes a 14-day dopamine detox aimed at reducing consumption and improving content creation. They then cover Nike’s Boston Marathon-adjacent “Runners welcome, walkers tolerated” sign and similar UK messaging, and finally debate what truly qualifies as active recovery, emphasizing scheduled rest and avoiding “active recovery” as an excuse to skip real days off. 00:00 Welcome and agenda 01:07 Brick phone blocker explained 05:00 Chicago work trip plans 12:15 April Unplugged challenge 15:55 Dopamine detox for creators 20:25 Quick extra update niece birthday 21:26 Nike Boston sign backlash 27:34 Is Nike shifting its culture 30:15 Nike Runner Image Shift 32:00 Nike Controversy History 37:14 Parkrun Billboard Backlash 38:49 Defining Active Recovery 41:40 Rest Day Versus Movement 44:31 Strava And Rest Guilt 50:26 Scheduling Recharge Days 55:54 Earn Your Rest Mindset 01:00:05 Kids Never Stop Playing 01:04:06 Wrap Up And Contact Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    1h 5m
  5. 75. Pregnancy and Athletic Contracts

    Apr 10

    75. Pregnancy and Athletic Contracts

    Kelly and JK celebrate episode 75 and share training updates: Kelly recaps a March 28 two-mile race and  notes issues with the Runna app. JK reports recommitting to priming and short recovery circuits after lifts, reframing rest days as “recharge” days, and separating recovery as part of training strategy rather than sleep. They then discuss controversy around marathoner Emma Bates being dropped by nutrition brand UCAN after revealing she was pregnant, including disputed contract/negotiation timing, reduced offers, PR implications, contractor protections, and whether sponsorship type affects pregnancy support. 00:00 Episode 75 Kickoff 01:29 Updates And Controversy Tease 01:54 Kelly Two Mile Race Recap 11:19 Runna App Frustrations 16:51 JK Recovery Work Recommitment 28:22 Courtroom Streams And Lunch Breaks 32:06 Unedited Reality Moments 32:35 Desensitized To Crime 34:57 Living Abroad Perspective 37:35 Pivot To Fitness Talk 37:58 Emma Bates Sponsor Dispute 43:43 Brand Nuance And PR 51:29 Contract Terms And Workload 01:00:49 Contractor Protections And Abercrombie 01:07:02 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    1h 8m
  6. 74. Recreational Runners Don’t Need to Strength Train?

    Mar 27

    74. Recreational Runners Don’t Need to Strength Train?

    Kelly and JK start episode 74 after switching podcast platforms and share updates after several weeks. Kelly mentions her husband Ty’s birthday, reviews her first month using an Oura Ring, and describes adding regular after-work “evening commute” walks. She also gives a brief running update ahead of an upcoming two-mile race. JK shares a short training update about lifting and cardio. They spend the rest of the episode discussing a Threads post claiming recreational runners don’t need strength training, walking through common arguments and their thoughts, and close with where to find the show online. 00:51 Episode 74 Updates Return 01:35 Birthday Shoutout and Lifting Seeds 03:02 Oura Ring First Impressions 07:03 HSA Approval and Cost Comparison 09:33 Evening Commute Walk Habit 15:25 Running Training and Achilles Flare 19:37 JK Training Remix and Consistency 27:18 Threads Take Runners Stop Lifting 32:29 Debate Begins Specificity Argument 34:27 Specificity Versus Strength 36:11 Survivorship Bias Reality 38:30 Periodize Your Training 39:33 Time Recovery Tradeoffs 46:08 Recreational Runner Myths 49:04 Running Is Not Strength 52:38 Anecdotes Aren't Evidence 56:57 Soreness Fear And Context 59:58 Gym Judgment Thread Story 01:05:54 Social Media Fills Blanks 01:08:54 Lift Weights Touch Grass Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    1h 10m
  7. 73. AR Running Glasses, LA Marathon, and US Half Marathon Champs Controversy

    Mar 13

    73. AR Running Glasses, LA Marathon, and US Half Marathon Champs Controversy

    In episode 73 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly and JK skip updates to jump right into topics, starting with Minimus Flow augmented reality sports sunglasses that combine watch/phone/bike-computer features for about $699. They then recap the 2026 LA Marathon men’s photo finish and discuss a heat policy allowing runners to stop at 18 miles and still get a medal. Finally, they cover the US Half Marathon Championships in Atlanta, where top women were led off course after cones were moved during a police-officer emergency and what has ensued since. 00:00 Episode Kickoff 00:58 AR Glasses Explained 06:06 Would Runners Use It 09:48 Market Fit And Price 17:21 LA Marathon Photo Finish 23:46 Heat Policy Medal Debate 28:48 US Half Champs Controversy 34:34 Finish Line Chaos 35:15 USATF Statement Fallout 37:31 Why Not Fix Results 40:18 ATC Explains Misroute 40:43 How Cones Got Moved 50:46 Who Should Know Course 54:31 Honorary Podium Update 56:28 Precedent and Legal Fears 57:13 Sports Call Comparison 01:00:23 World Team Stakes 01:05:14 PR Spin and Wrap Up 01:07:09 Final Sign Off Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    1h 7m
  8. 72. Exploring Fitness, Fame, and Integrity with Joy Parrish

    Feb 27

    72. Exploring Fitness, Fame, and Integrity with Joy Parrish

    The hosts of “Lifting, Running, and Living” welcome back Joy Parrish, a longtime podcaster and mental health therapist. After a brief discussion about Joy’s recent donkey run, they dig into how to evaluate wellness/fitness figures when their names or associations surface in scandals, using Peter Attia’s appearance in the Epstein files as context. Joy emphasizes ethics, “do no harm,” bystander responsibility, and accountability, critiques Attia’s PR response, and explains why his medical background (including not being board certified) matters in public perception. The conversation broadens to locker-room talk, microaggressions, and ingroup/outgroup bias, then closes with how the hosts draw firmer lines with influencers and prioritize values and accountability over persona. 00:00 IRL Pod Reunion 01:28 Meet Joy Parrish 05:57 Attia and Epstein Files 19:14 PR Breakdown Takeaways 25:00 Locker Room Talk Rant 30:51 Microaggressions and Bystanders 34:44 Waiting For The Facts 38:06 Calm Confrontation Tactics 40:25 Ingroup Bias And Identity 42:48 Drawing Lines With Experts 45:06 Influencer Worship And Grifts 53:46 Fitness Claims And Vulnerability 54:52 Manifestation Coaching Critique 58:44 Tyra Banks And Accountability 01:01:26 Closing Thoughts And Wrap Up Follow the pod at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

    1h 8m
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Welcome to Lifting, Running & Living! As coaches in the fitness space and two humans who love movement (running for Kelly, strength for JK), every episode will contain some element of fitness, plus a variety of other topics we're seeing, dealing with or hearing about. Join us every other Friday for chit chat, tangents & lots of laughing.

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