12 - From Rebel Woman to Raising Rebels with Jo Phillips
Episode 12 - From Rebel Woman to Raising Rebels with Jo Phillips In this episode, host Michelle Minnikin welcomes Jo Phillips to the Good Girl Deprogramming podcast. Together, they delve into the journey from societal expectations to authentic self-expression, highlighting the challenges women face in corporate environments and how they can reclaim their power. Jo shares her experiences of breaking free from “Good Girl Conditioning,” championing leverage and confidence, and coaching other women to find their voices and build meaningful careers. Jo’s early career was in the recruitment and staffing industry with market leaders such as Staffline, Kelly, and Adecco, where she headed Adecco’s sales academy. She later transitioned to a national role in learning and development, researching, designing, and delivering training through mediums like classroom, online, and face-to-face sessions. With over 23,000 hours of training delivered, Jo specialises in onboarding, legislation, sales cycles, recruitment, management, and leadership. She has trained trainers to become confident, authentic facilitators and designed curricula to support women’s career advancement. Jo is a coach and mentor to senior leaders, acting as a confidential sounding board and critical friend. Her passion for empowering women is evident in her work, particularly through programmes like inHerSpark, which focuses on accelerating women’s careers. This initiative enhances retention by providing specialist development at critical career points, enabling women to excel within their organisations. Recognised for her inclusive, knowledgeable, and open approach, Jo coaches women to achieve their potential. In the past year alone, her clients saw an average salary increase of 39%, with the highest increase reaching £70,000. Jo is a gold-level facilitator for Google’s #IamRemarkable initiative and collaborates with award-winning software, Fintech, and FTSE 100 companies. Based in the UK, she is a devoted mother to a preteen son, an avid reader, and a passionate advocate for diversity and inclusion. Jo frequently speaks at events and podcasts, continuously researching the challenges women face in their careers. What we talk about: 1:16 – Michelle welcomes Jo Phillips, sharing how their connection was fatefully suggested by multiple people. 1:54 – Jo discusses taking the Good Girl Quiz and proudly identifying as a “Rebel Woman.” 4:37 – Jo reflects on her early corporate career, shaped by societal expectations that limited her confidence. 8:23 – A missed promotion becomes Jo’s wake-up call, revealing the importance of self-promotion. 10:43 – Jo discovers a 40% pay gap in her role and boldly negotiates for fair compensation. 15:55 – Jo highlights how workplace U-turns, like ending hybrid work, disproportionately affect women. 17:56 – Jo shares her current focus: coaching women to reclaim confidence and articulate their value. 23:54 – Michelle and Jo discuss the critical role of self-promotion and leveraging networks for success. 28:35 – Jo challenges listeners to envision their ideal life and reverse engineer the steps to achieve it. Follow Jo on social media: Website - https://thewomanbehindthewomen.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo-p-thewomanbehindthewomen/ Follow Michelle on social media: Website - https://www.michelleminnikin.com/ Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mminnikin/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/goodgirldeprogramming TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@michelleminnikin Buy Good Girl Deprogramming Ebook and Paperback available at all good bookshops (and Amazon - https://amzn.to/3AQHuFf) Audible - https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/B0D9MKBDBW/?source_code=AUKFrDlWS02231890H6-BK-ACX0-406719&ref=acx_bty_BK_ACX0_406719_rh_uk Take the Good Girl Quiz Find out if you’re a Good Girl at https://goodgirlquiz.co.uk/ If you enjoyed today’s episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with friends!
