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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can cause us to dissociate from our own bodies, as a way of self-protection. If you are far enough along with your healing, it can become important to rebuild that connection and tune in to what your body needs and feels, so that you can heal fully and completely. Today, we dive into this topic, covering some of the challenges of mindfulness as well as strategies and methods you may want to try. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:30 Why mindfulness is so difficult2:25 The power our brains have over our healing4:55 Limbic Retraining is an on-going practice5:54 How to tell if you’re out of touch with your body7:07 Practice: all you need to do is show up8:13 The best method is the one you can stick to9:12 Gratitudes10:55 Play with the time of day11:40 Journaling or Morning Pages13:01 Meditation, choosing identities14:26 ADHD struggles with mindfulness15:56 Yoga17:46 Walking19:51 How to get started with Mindfulness20:47 Tracking symptoms23:12 Practice, not perfect
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=S4eS_dytKrK2Yj3rThe Joy Plan book: https://a.co/d/gx82x4BThe Artist’s Way book: https://a.co/d/1u2x3loCIRS Meditation practice with Melanie: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/Great research on why ADHD makes mindfulness difficult (and how to overcome): https://youtu.be/RFJBwdpSPmU?si=vV__3XUxNc9iYVdPYoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/@yogawithadriene
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness and the only clinically proven path to healing is through the Shoemaker Protocol. Today, we are tackling the tricky topic of medication and supplement timing. Many CIRS patients, ourselves included, struggle with when to take our binders, when to eat, and when it’s safe to take other meds, so we thought this would be a good topic to dig into. As always, none of this is medical advice. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:48 Supplements and Binder timing can feel overwhelming at first1:48 Why the binders are so tricky2:42 Welchol vs CSM and eating fat afterwards4:40 Thyroid medication and other supplements5:40 Jacie’s medication/supplement schedule7:02 Barbara’s medication/supplement schedule9:45 There are shades of gray - just do your best11:35 Strategies to implement: timers, reminders, alarms, sticky notes13:19 Writing meds out like a To Do list14:10 Phosphatidylcholine tips (and Barbara’s face)16:04 CSM tips18:40 Outro
HELPFUL LINKS:Pill organizer: https://a.co/d/4JbZgQkFrother/electric whisk for CSM: https://a.co/d/0YWS0jw
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness caused by mold and other biotoxins that affects 24% of the population and only a handful of doctors even know about it. We are so excited to have one of the greats on today: Dr. Eric Dorninger. Dr. D is a CIRS patient himself - he will share more about his and his family’s health struggles, the reasons he fights for his patients’ health, and the magic of healing from CIRS so we can be happy, healthy, kick ass individuals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:18 Dr. Eric Dorninger’s backstory8:35 CIRSx and the Holy Trinity of CIRS Healing9:18 BlueSkyCBD for mood disorders10:10 Screening for CIRS13:04 Story of patient healing from CIRS14:59 Why your doctor’s staff is so important20:50 What it takes to work with CIRS patients23:41 Tinnitus in CIRS patients24:54 The problem with naming diseases26:30 Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour29:44 Patient Aaron Pettigrew’s CIRS story32:39 CIRSx and the importance of environment professionals37:00 CIRS patients becoming CIRS practitioners39:37 What the CIRS community should do to spread awareness41:57 The problem with urinary mycotoxin tests and azoles44:20 Endotoxin nuggets of wisdom49:09 Outro and CIRSx excitement
HELPFUL LINKS:Come to CIRSx! https://www.cirsx.com/Dr. Dorninger’s practice website: https://drdorninger.com/Dr. Dorninger on AANP website: https://naturopathic.org/member/drdorningerBlueSkyCBD: https://www.bluesky-cbd.com/Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwmPARlXz7FIag_6NPS_uBgVitality Hour on tolerating binders: https://youtu.be/omQL_mZrGRM?si=5DtyoM8E4i9I4qfUTake the CIRSx Courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
 
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that occurs in 25% of the population that gets exposed to environmental toxins like mold, red tide, spider or tick bites, and even some vaccines and viruses. Today, we have a special return guest Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and we are going off script, away from the clinically proven path for healing from CIRS with the Shoemaker Protocol: Exploring the potential for good that comes in the form of pure Nicotine. This may be a controversial topic - but as always, this is not medical advice! We are exploring the possibilities for treatment in the future and hopefully opening the conversation around alternative methods to help the body recover from CIRS. More research is needed, but it’s fun to play “what if.” For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
 
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:24 What is Nicotine?
3:00 Overlap between Nicotine and VIP
4:35 Immunomodulation by both Nicotine and VIP
6:03 Nicotine can stimulate VIP receptors
6:51 Cancer risk with Nicotine use
8:30 Smoking/Vaping vs taking Nicotine in pure form
10:05 Long COVID symptom resolution with Nicotine
15:12 Jacie’s experience with Nicotine
17:25 Christian’s experience with Nicotine
22:13 Barbara’s experience with Nicotine
24:32 Nicotine recommendations: NicNac
26:32 Nicotine dosage
28:13 Arginine supplementation with Nicotine
30:40 Cravings and withdrawal concerns
32:40 Potential in the future for CIRS patients
37:15 Outro
 
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The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
 
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
 
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:
VIP Spray episode: https://youtu.be/A3YXtkYMnL0?si=mSSC-nwWrYTjFcQ6
NicNac, use Christian’s discount code CIRSLAB: https://www.nicnac.com/
Come to CIRSx: https://www.cirsx.com/
 
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
 
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex chronic illness that requires a multi-step treatment protocol in order to heal. Today, we dive into taking binders - why take them, what kind to take, why they might cause side effects and what to do to mitigate those side effects. This is not medical advice, always consult your Shoemaker certified practitioner before making changes to your treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:22 The Intensification Monster2:03 What to expect when starting binders3:58 Why the binders might hurt at first6:27 Why binder timing matters8:35 Various binder options: CSM, welchol, okra/beet11:22 Being in exposure may cause binder side effects14:58 Low dose VIP Spray15:26 Lipid Replacement adjustment15:53 MARCoNs17:56 Histamine response / MCAS19:09 Why a Shoemaker certified practitioner is important
HELPFUL LINKS:Environment testing episode: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs?si=eGQrUHaTKzKEAtmDGENIE test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=hB35VTi1jBX3pkZQMARCoNs test episode: https://youtu.be/dWJaGdpQKrA?si=mcB8XfJC8cRyKgnz&t=469Barbara’s MARCoNs testing video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjNhakttIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Histamine/MCAS episode: https://youtu.be/mKoTPC4tBpQ?si=MZ6RB1BFbLpbKy1R&t=1140Find a Shoemaker Certified Practitioner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitionersor a Certified Proficiency Partner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
 
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that affects a quarter of the population (they just might not know it yet). Today, we tackle the very last step of the only clinically proven path to healing CIRS, Shoemaker Protocol, which is Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides, or VIP Spray. VIP Spray is amazing, in that it helps the brain return to normal after inflammation and atrophy caused by CIRS. We dig into the details on how it works, when to use it, and what to expect when using it. This is not medical advice, talk to your doctor to figure out what’s right for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
 
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:00 The purpose of VIP Spray within the Shoemaker Protocol
2:17 What is VIP or Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide
2:28 VIP blood test
4:00 Why get a NeuroQuant before and after VIP Spray
5:18 The cost of VIP Spray
6:00 Titration and administration of VIP Spray
7:40 Considerations for storing VIP Spray
8:20 Cheaper option for VIP Spray
8:58 The potential risks of VIP Spray
10:55 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray
13:00 Using VIP to better tolerate the binders
15:20 Barbara’s VIP Spray
 
HELPFUL LINKS:
Genie test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=WL_s_yXIpEh_f4uj
NeuroQuant episode: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=YkTgroEapsSFWSGw
Cheaper option to purchase VIP Spray (to mix yourself): https://www.montroserx.com/
 
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok