#2 Emil Ejner Friis. Metamodernism. Hanzi Freinacht. Both/and. Human development. Beyond cynicism.

You can support this podcast on Patreon: http://patreon.com/curiousonearth Episode #2: Theory artist Emil Ejner Friis who's strangely involved with Hanzi Freinacht's very inspiring books The Listening Society and The Nordic Ideology. This episode was recorded on Oct 13, 2021 Video version: https://youtu.be/g8CBgfvkjv4 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3FNvykR Apple podcasts: https://apple.co/3CVqCIM RSS: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:879419647/sounds.rss 00:00:00 Foreword 00:05:08 Introduction. 00:05:39 What is a listening society? 00:11:18 Polarization and metamodern bridgebuilding. Understanding developmental stages and value memes. 00:16:17 Learning to talk with people who you disagree with and that as a privilege. 00:19:55 Effective value memes and the relationship between modernism, postmodernism and metamodernism. 00:26:03 Happiness and its critics. 00:28:30 Categorizing metamodernism. 00:32:20 Criticisms of stage theories. Multiplicity of paradigms. 00:37:34 The flat earth rabbit hole and epistemic disagreements. Gandhi and attractors. 00:43:51 Metamodernism and new sincerity. Both both/and and either/or thinking. Metamodern movies. 00:50:40 How (not) to become a good metamodern philosopher. Post-cynicism, hope and despair. 00:53:55 David Foster Wallace and real rebels. 00:56:34 Short final questions. 00:59:39 Afterword. Other keywords: Alienation Loneliness Self-actualization Self esteem Gemeinschaft politics Relationships Welfare state Psychological development Integral theory Spiral dynamics Cognitive complexity Happiness Hedonism Suffering Postrationality Game B Metamemes John Vervaeke Daniel Schmachtenberger Postpostmodernism Fatalism Polarities Sincirony Links: Peter Limberg's post mentioning existential ultracatastrophes https://bit.ly/3nRi3dX Nora Bateson's post on stage theories https://bit.ly/3nRi2Xr Future Islands's performance on Letterman https://bit.ly/310UdDp David Foster Wallace quote https://bit.ly/3DVrX3Y Emil Ejner Friis on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/emil.e.friis Hanzi Freinacht on Twitter https://twitter.com/HFreinacht Hanzi Freinacht's Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/HanziFreinacht Hanzi Freinacht's personal Facebook https://bit.ly/3raUrD8 Hanzi's Metamoderna think tank https://metamoderna.org ----- Driven by a deep thirst for understanding, Curious on Earth is a slow enough podcast by Henry Soinnunmaa, Finnish musician, writer and amateur generalist. Some topics and keywords: deep time, cognition, creativity, mental health, technology, religion, play, ecology, sexuality, slowing down, AI, wisdom, cold swimming, reality tunnels, movement, stillness, psychedelics, antifragility, conscientiousness, beginner mindset, political polarization, pratītyasamutpāda, magic, music, game b, altered states of consciousness, commitment, BJJ, decentralization, energy policy, dance, language, adulting, drug policy, meditation, metamodernism, meaning crisis, neurodiversity, emergence, honesty, sensemaking, animalness, (post)rationality, media, death, love. Facebook: https://facebook.com/curiousonearth Twitter: https://twitter.com/curiousonearth Instagram: https://instagram.com/curiousonearth