268 (Part 2) - Cultural Views: A Conversation on White Christian Nationalism with Be the Bridge Team Members Sean, Elizabeth, and Micah Be the Bridge Podcast with Latasha Morrison

This episode is the second part of our Cultural Views conversation on white Christian nationalism. (Listen to part one released on 5/30 to get the full discussion!) Podcast host Latasha Morrison and Be the Bridge leaders Sean Watkins, Elizabeth Behrens, and Micah Smith continue to share why this conversation is needed, the importance of digging into the origins story of the US and our churches, and the difference between patriotism and nationalism. There are resources and practical steps given along with reminders of hope.



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Host & Executive Producer - Latasha MorrisonSenior Producer - Lauren C. BrownProducer, Editor, & Music - Travon Potts with Integrated Entertainment StudiosAssistant Producer & Transcriber - Sarah Connatser



Quotes:“There's a crisis of discipleship.” -Latasha Morrison

“One of the issues of Christian nationalism is that it allows for all of these conversations about all these different ethnic groups without actually talking to any of those ethnic groups and having them be included in the conversation.” -Sean Watkins

“I grew up with the Christian flag on one side and the American flag on the other. And if we don't think that our theology is shaped by our place and our space, then we're not being honest with ourselves.” -Elizabeth Behrens

“We're supposed to be trying to honor and glorify God, not a nation, not a group, not a denomination. But honor and glorify God. With everything that we got we're loving him.” -Micah Smith



Terms:Christian Nationalism: a cultural framework that idealizes and advocates a fusion of Christianity with American civic life. Christian nationalism contends that America has been and should always be distinctively “Christian” from top to bottom – in its self-identity, interpretations of its own history, sacred symbols, cherished values, and public policies – and it aims to keep it that way.



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Resources Mentioned:The Civil War as a Theological Crisis by Mark NollEqual Justice InitiativeThe Next Evangelicalism by Soong-Chan RahUnsettling Truths by Mark Charles and Soong-Chan RahSanta Biblia: The Bible Through Hispanic Eyes by Justo L. GonzalezRescuing the Gospel from the Cowboys by Dr. Richard TwissStand Your Ground: Black Bodies and the Justice of God by Reverend Dr. Kelly Brown DouglasBe the Bridge Recommended ResourcesNational Memorial for Peace and JusticeThe Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass IncarcerationMissio Alliance



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Not all views expressed in this interview reflect the values and beliefs of Latasha Morrison or the Be the Bridge organization.