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  1. A Conversation with Paul Rosenzweig, Principal, Red Branch Consulting and a Lecturer at George Washington University

    6D AGO

    A Conversation with Paul Rosenzweig, Principal, Red Branch Consulting and a Lecturer at George Washington University

    The following interview is part of the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series. In this series, we sit down with leaders and innovators who are making a real difference in scholarly publishing, libraries, and the broader information world. Each conversation is a chance to hear firsthand how these decision makers tackle new challenges, rethink traditional models, and collaborate across sectors. Today's episode features the next conversation from the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series.  Heather Staines Senior Consultant, Delta Think, and a Conference Director, talks with Paul Rosenzweig, Principal, Red Branch Consulting and a Lecturer at George Washington University. Paul has had what could be called a "zigzaggy" career, but it all came full circle. He started out as a chemist with a master's in chemical oceanography and expected he would be a senior oceanographer examining the world by now.  However, due to difficulty obtaining government funding, and the job being not as interesting as he had hoped, he decided to change paths and follow in his father's footsteps. Paul started law school with the idea of focusing on environmental law to tie into his oceanography background. But, instead, he ended up in the environmental crime section at the Department of Justice where he found that he liked the criminal law side a lot more than the environmental side.   He talks about the disruption of 9-11 and losing friends and, as a result, transitioning from criminal law to Homeland Security criminal law and doing cybersecurity work for the Department of Homeland Security. Things came full circle here for Paul as he now leaned on the early computer programming and large-scale data basing he had done as an oceanographer. When the cybersecurity crisis hit the government, Paul was early on the scene. In 2009, he left this position and started his consulting company and began teaching at George Washington University part-time as an adjunct. One of his clients is the American Library Association. The video of this interview can be found here:  https://youtu.be/aek77eVR18I Social Media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherstaines/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-rosenzweig Keywords: #LeoLo #CharlestonConference #AgainstTheGrain #AnnualReviews #LeadershipInLibraries #InnovationInLibraries #TeamWork #Team #ConferenceEvolution #LibraryCommunity #Librarianship #ProfessionalDevelopment #LibrarianJourney #LibraryEducation #InformationAccess #LibraryCommunity #libraries #librarians #libraryCareer #librarySchool #LibraryLove #academic #AcademicPublishing #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication  #learning #learnon #information #leaders #leadership #2024ChsConf ##career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    31 min
  2. A Conversation with Leo Lo, Dean of Libraries and Advisor for AI Literacy at the University of Virginia

    FEB 2

    A Conversation with Leo Lo, Dean of Libraries and Advisor for AI Literacy at the University of Virginia

    The following interview is part of the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series. In this series, we sit down with leaders and innovators who are making a real difference in scholarly publishing, libraries, and the broader information world. Each conversation is a chance to hear firsthand how these decision makers tackle new challenges, rethink traditional models, and collaborate across sectors. Today's episode features the next conversation from the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series.  Erin Gallagher, Chair, Acquisitions & Discovery Services at the University of Florida, and a Conference Director, talks with Leo Lo, Dean of Libraries and Advisor for AI Literacy at the University of Virginia. Leo shares that he has a film degree and originally wanted to be a film scholar and film preservationist and didn't realize that librarianship could be a career until he discovered it by accident when searching for a graduate program in film preservation. One of his professors suggested that he look into the library science programs for preservation specialization. Leo says he became interested immediately, as it was an exciting time when the internet was exploding and changing everything, including librarianship.  He earned his MLIS at Florida State University. He says librarianship is the intersection between honoring the past and shaping the future. In this conversation, Leo gives an employer's perspective as to some steps future librarians could take to better prepare for a landscape where AI is really going to play a large and evolving role. He talks with Erin about his unique role as Dean of Libraries but also being appointed as advisor to the provost for AI literacy, the value for librarians in joining organizations like ALA and ACRL and his experience the first time he used ChatGPT. The video of this interview can be found here:  https://youtu.be/zbv2c4xT9hk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-gallagher-39a2b211/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/leoslo/ Keywords: #LeoLo #CharlestonConference #AgainstTheGrain #AnnualReviews #LeadershipInLibraries #InnovationInLibraries #TeamWork #Team #ConferenceEvolution #LibraryCommunity #Librarianship #ProfessionalDevelopment #LibrarianJourney #LibraryEducation #InformationAccess #LibraryCommunity #libraries #librarians #libraryCareer #librarySchool #LibraryLove #academic #AcademicPublishing #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication  #learning #learnon #information #leaders #leadership #2024ChsConf ##career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    32 min
  3. A Conversation with Paolo Manghi, CTO, OpenAIRE, and Researcher, Italian National Research Council

    JAN 27

    A Conversation with Paolo Manghi, CTO, OpenAIRE, and Researcher, Italian National Research Council

    Today's episode features guest host Michael Upshall (guest editor, Charleston Briefings) who talks with Paolo Manghi, CTO, OpenAIRE, and Researcher, Italian National Research Council. Paolo is a prominent figure in European Research Infrastructures. In this conversation, he talks about his career path, first earning a degree in information science in Pisa, then a degree in science and technology, and then a PhD in research on data and databases before working with data infrastructures and joining CNR, a pioneer in the field of technical innovation and scientific advancements and who he says coined many famous terminologies used in the industry today.  Paolo talks about dividing his time between being a researcher and working at the worldwide open scholarly communication infrastructure OpenAire which he describes as being more than a technical platform, that provides a trusted forum for policymakers, funders, institutions, and researchers to share data and shape open science together. The video of this interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/gNwuzvT-Qb0 Social Media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mupshall/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/paolo-manghi-880a54/   Twitter: Keywords: #CNR #OpenAIRE #Science #OpenScience #OpenInfrastructure #OpenAccess #Research #OpenResearch #ResearchIntegrity #ResearchTransparency #ResearchPublishing #ResearchInfrastructures #ScientificPublishing #Metadata #MetaResearch #PeerReview #DigitalTransformation #ResearchCulture #PublishingTechnology #Discovery #LibraryTechnology #Innovation #career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    57 min
  4. ATGthePodcast 303 - A Conversation with Gregory Laynor, PhD, Director, NYU Meta-Research Collaborative and Systemic Review Librarian, NYU Health Science Library

    JAN 25

    ATGthePodcast 303 - A Conversation with Gregory Laynor, PhD, Director, NYU Meta-Research Collaborative and Systemic Review Librarian, NYU Health Science Library

    Today's episode features guest host Michael Upshall (guest editor, Charleston Briefings) who talks with Gregory Laynor, PhD, Director, Meta-Research Collaborative and Systemic Review Librarian, NYU Health Science Library. In this conversation, Gregory discusses founding the Meta Research Collaborative, which aims to improve transparency, impact and research practices across disciplines. He also discusses his work in meta-research, or research on research, and says he is cautious in using Generative AI in research due to concerns over bias, rigor and reproducibility amid an AI mediated research landscape, and he believes that the library's future is shifting and now lies more in helping people interpret, evaluate, and synthesize information, and helping provide AI literacy, than in being repositories. The video of this interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/nVxUojjh64k Social Media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mupshall/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-laynor/ Keywords: #Science #OpenScience #Research #OpenResearch #ResearchIntegrity #ResearchTransparency #ResearchPublishing #Metadata #MetaResearch #GenAI #AILiteracy #SystematicReviews #DigitalTransformation #ResearchIntegrity #ResearchCulture #ScientificPublishing #HealthSciences #PublishingTechnology #Discovery #LibraryTechnology #Innovation #career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    1h 4m
  5. A Conversation with Andrew Smeall, VP, Product Innovation, Sage

    JAN 12

    A Conversation with Andrew Smeall, VP, Product Innovation, Sage

    Today's episode features guest host Michael Upshall (guest editor, Charleston Briefings) who talks with Andrew Smeall, VP, Product Innovation at Sage. Andrew is a leader in digital scholarly publishing. He began his career in publishing, and became interested in media and technology, while working at the Center on US-China Relations, which he describes as a "think tank" that produces research on US-China environmental relations and US-China economic relations, where he worked to organize research projects, make their white papers more interesting  and to make that research more discoverable using WordPress sites or flash sites.  He joined Hindawi while working towards his MBA, where he learned about open access and led the redevelopment of its publishing platform, eventually becoming Chief Digital Officer.  Now at Sage, he builds technology strategy for their research business and journals business, helping to decide what platforms to build and which to buy, whether to develop a technology in house or work with a vendor who supplies it, and deciding how best to provide these needed services to researchers.  In this conversation, Andrew also delves into some challenges facing current publishing models and provides some interesting viewpoints.  The video of this interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/oCXaZSwAU9U LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mupshall/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/smeall/ Keywords: #Science #OpenScience #Research #ResearchWorkflow #OpenResearch #ResearchPublishing #Metadata #DigitalTransformation #ResearchIntegrity #ResearchCulture #ScientificPublishing #HumanitiesPublishing #PublishingTechnology #Discovery #LibraryTechnology #Innovation #career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    37 min
  6. A Conversation with Michele Frison, Postdoctoral Research Assistant, MRC Mitochondrial Biology Unit at the University of Cambridge

    JAN 6

    A Conversation with Michele Frison, Postdoctoral Research Assistant, MRC Mitochondrial Biology Unit at the University of Cambridge

    Today's episode features guest host Michael Upshall (guest editor, Charleston Briefings) who talks with Michele Frison, Postdoctoral Research Assistant at the MRC Mitochondrial Biology Unit at the University of Cambridge. Michele is originally from Italy and completed his PhD at UCL in England with a focus on cell biology. He defines himself as a cell biologist and biochemist, and much of his current research specializes in cell and mitochondrial biology, aging and disease.  The Mitochondrial Biology Unit is part of a larger infrastructure that runs clinical trials for rare diseases. Michele says the process is very slow, taking up to a decade or so, but that he has been fortunate enough to have made a recent discovery that could well lead to clinical trial: the protein target that he's worked with is actually a target for drugs that have already passed phase one clinical trials and are now passing phase two for Parkinson's disease. If the research he has done in models replicates in humans, then it could well lead to a drug for diseases that affect one in 8,000 humans. Michele also talks about the disconnect between the public understanding of science and scientific practice, research culture and competition, open science and the review process, and the vast amount of literature that scientists have to keep up with, as well as his views on the use of AI and social media in his field. The video of this interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/ri_djNwi1jw Social Media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mupshall/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkfrison92/ Twitter: Keywords: #UniversityOfCambridge #MBU #LifeSciences #OpenScience #BiomedicalResearch #Research #OpenResearch #ResearchCulture #CellBiology #MitochondrialBiology #PostDoc #ScientificPublishing #PeerReview #LibraryTechnology #Innovation #career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    55 min
  7. A Conversation with Judy Russell, Former Dean of University Libraries, University of Florida

    12/22/2025

    A Conversation with Judy Russell, Former Dean of University Libraries, University of Florida

    The following interview is part of the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series. In this series, we sit down with leaders and innovators who are making a real difference in scholarly publishing, libraries, and the broader information world. Each conversation is a chance to hear firsthand how these decision makers tackle new challenges, rethink traditional models, and collaborate across sectors. Today's episode features the next conversation from the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series.  Meg White, Senior Consultant, Delta Think, and a Conference Director, who talks with Judy Russell, Former Dean of Libraries at the University of Florida. Judy has had a long, distinguished career. She served as Superintendent of Documents at the US Government Printing Office and as Deputy Director for the U.S. National Commission on Libraries and Information Science and just completed 18 years as the first dean of university libraries at University of Florida, before recently retiring. In this conversation, she talks about her journey into librarianship and her professional development along the way, playing an important role in the transition from print to digital information in her work with electronic government information.  She plans to continue her important work in accessibility with groups in Panama after her retirement. Judy says she believes in the durability and resiliency of libraries, despite the ongoing challenges. The video of this interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/navZwS3ddmE Social Media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megmorelandwhite/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/judithrussell/ Twitter: Keywords: #CharlestonConference #AgainstTheGrain #AnnualReviews #LeadershipInLibraries #InnovationInLibraries #TeamWork #Team #ConferenceEvolution #LibraryCommunity #Librarianship #ProfessionalDevelopment #LibrarianJourney #LibraryEducation #InformationAccess #LibraryCommunity #libraries #librarians #libraryCareer #librarySchool #LibraryLove #academic #AcademicPublishing #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication  #learning #learnon #information #leaders #leadership #2024ChsConf ##career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    31 min
  8. A Conversation with Kathleen McEvoy, Senior Policy Fellow, EveryLibrary Institute

    12/15/2025

    A Conversation with Kathleen McEvoy, Senior Policy Fellow, EveryLibrary Institute

    The following interview is part of the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series. In this series, we sit down with leaders and innovators who are making a real difference in scholarly publishing, libraries, and the broader information world. Each conversation is a chance to hear firsthand how these decision makers tackle new challenges, rethink traditional models, and collaborate across sectors. Today's episode features the next conversation from the 2025 Charleston Conference Leadership Interview Series.  Meg White, Senior Consultant, Delta Think, and a Conference Director, who talks with Kathleen McEvoy, Senior Policy Fellow, EveryLibrary Institute. Kathleen is a senior communication executive with expertise in public relations, crisis communications, and public affairs. In this conversation, Kathleen talks with Meg about her professional journey from broadcast journalism to public relations to now her work with EveryLibrary. Kathleen also describes the dual role of EveryLibrary with their work to help libraries build local, state and national support as well as secure funding, and EveryLibrary Institute, which is public education on the role and value of libraries in American society. In the past 13 years, EveryLibrary has insured $2 billion in library funding through their efforts. The video of this interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/pW2f5w45HY0 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megmorelandwhite/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenmcevoy/ Twitter: Keywords: #CharlestonConference #AgainstTheGrain #AnnualReviews #LeadershipInLibraries #InnovationInLibraries #TeamWork #Team #ConferenceEvolution #LibraryCommunity #Librarianship #ProfessionalDevelopment #LibrarianJourney #LibraryEducation #InformationAccess #LibraryCommunity #libraries #librarians #libraryCareer #librarySchool #LibraryLove #academic #AcademicPublishing #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication  #learning #learnon #information #leaders #leadership #2024ChsConf ##career #scholcomm #ScholarlyCommunication #libraries #librarianship #LibraryNeeds #LibraryLove #ScholarlyPublishing #AcademicPublishing #publishing #LibrariesAndPublishers #podcasts

    34 min

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Against the Grain is your key to the latest news about libraries, publishers, book jobbers, and subscription agents. Our goal is to link publishers, vendors, and librarians by reporting on the issues, literature, and people that impact the world of books and journals.