Blue Sky

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Blue Sky

Hosted by Bill Burke, founder of The Optimism Institute, this weekly podcast will feature inspiring leaders, authors, researchers, and big thinkers who are taking on some of our world’s toughest challenges with an infectious sense of optimism. Blue Sky takes its name from the meditation reminder that there’s always blue sky above, sometimes you just have to get your head above the clouds to see it.

  1. Throwback/Encore Presentation: Bestselling Author and Podcast/TV Host Kelly Corrigan on Why She Believes There Is “A Pretty Big Payoff to Every Hard Moment”

    DEC 19

    Throwback/Encore Presentation: Bestselling Author and Podcast/TV Host Kelly Corrigan on Why She Believes There Is “A Pretty Big Payoff to Every Hard Moment”

    This is an encore presentation of the 50th episode of Blue Sky, when Bill was joined by someone who has completed more than 400 of them.  Bestselling author and TV/podcast host Kelly Corrigan describes to Bill the many things she’s learned in her life and career about optimism and how we all can benefit from life’s setbacks to become better people and forge stronger relationships.  Kelly reflects on lessons she learned from her parents and how facing her own cancer diagnosis and battle with the disease left her with a greater sense of empathy for others with similar hardships.  She also explains why she thinks intellectual humility is a key ingredient for an optimistic outlook and also that “there’s no feeling as good as being useful to someone.”  Chapters:    00:00 Introduction to Blue Sky Podcast Host Bill Burke introduces the 50th episode of the Blue Sky Podcast, highlighting its significance and the guest, Kelly Corrigan, an accomplished podcaster and author.   03:07 The Power of Lifelong Learning  Kelly Corrigan shares her insights on the importance of being a lifelong learner and how it fosters a mindset of curiosity and openness.   09:02 Optimism in Discovery The conversation delves into the optimistic belief that there is always more to learn and discover.   12:52 Finding Common Ground Bill and Kelly explore the idea of starting conversations with shared experiences rather than differences, highlighting the importance of empathy in discussions, especially in polarized environments.   16:17 Lessons from Kelly’s Dad  Kelly reflects on her father’s optimistic worldview and his unique way of greeting the day, which instilled a sense of joy and agency in her life. She shares how his perspective can inspire others to approach life with openness and positivity.  23:03 The Steadiness of Kelly’s Mom Transitioning to her mother’s influence, Kelly describes her mother’s calm and competent nature during challenging times, particularly during her cancer diagnosis.  30:00 The Beauty of Brokenness Kelly discusses her perspective that everyone is broken by the age of 50, and how this brokenness can lead to deeper connections with others. She emphasizes that meaningful connections often arise from shared hardships, transforming superficial interactions into profound conversations.  34:11 The Power of Shared Experiences The conversation shifts to how shared challenges can break down barriers and foster genuine connections among people.   37:57 Finding Purpose in Pain  Kelly shares the story of her cousin who became a source of support after losing her son, illustrating how personal tragedy can lead to a greater sense of purpose and empathy. The discussion touches on the transformative power of helping others through their struggles.  39:01 The Journey to Wellbeing Kelly introduces her PBS show focused on understanding wellbeing and the various factors that contribute to it, including mood, connection, and spirituality.   45:06 The Future of Mental Health Treatment The discussion highlights advancements in mental health treatment, emphasizing the potential for precision medicine to revolutionize how we approach mental health issues. Kelly and Bill express optimism about the ongoing research and the possibility of more effective, individualized treatments.  49:06 Embracing Uncertainty in Science Kelly reflects on her experiences interviewing leading scientists, revealing that even experts often disagree on key issues in mental health research. This segment emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and maturity in interpreting scientific findings.

    57 min
  2. Don Carpenter on Closing “The Aspirations Gap” with Rural Youth

    DEC 11

    Don Carpenter on Closing “The Aspirations Gap” with Rural Youth

    Don Carpenter has spent the bulk of his career working on youth development.  Today he’s executive director of the Rural Futures Fund, an organization focused on kids in rural settings, working to help them close what he calls the “aspirations gap,” between them and their peers in more affluent settings.      Chapters: 01:11 Meet Don Carpenter  Bill introduces Don Carpenter, Executive Director of the Rural Futures Fund, an organization dedicated to enhancing educational opportunities for youth in rural areas.   03:03 The Trekker Model  Don discusses the Trekker youth development mentoring model, which connects caring adults with students in a cohort-based approach. This innovative model emphasizes outdoor experiences to foster relationships and personal growth over six years.  06:18 Focusing on Rural Youth  The conversation shifts to the unique challenges faced by youth in rural settings, particularly regarding educational aspirations.   07:32 The Birth of the Rural Futures Fund  Don explains the evolution of the Rural Futures Fund and its mission to support youth development initiatives. He shares how the fund aims to tackle the aspirations gap, particularly during the critical 8th to 9th-grade transition.  10:09 Creating the Aspirations Incubator  Don elaborates on the Aspirations Incubator, a project designed to empower rural communities by providing resources and support for youth development.   12:15 Measuring Success  The discussion turns to the metrics used to evaluate the success of the Aspirations Incubator. Don outlines the focus on social-emotional development, academic achievement, and post-secondary aspirations among participating youth.  22:35 Results and Learnings  Don shares the impressive results from the first cohort of the Aspirations Incubator, highlighting significant improvements in students’ sense of belonging and post-secondary enrollment rates.   29:09 Understanding Summer Melt  In this chapter, Don discusses the national phenomenon of summer melt, where a significant percentage of students fail to enroll in college after graduation. He highlights how their program achieved a remarkable 78% enrollment rate and the ongoing efforts to address this issue for future cohorts.  30:29 Reflections on Results  Don reflects on the outcomes of the program, sharing his initial expectations and the unexpected support provided to organizational leadership during the pandemic.   33:39 The Impact of the Pandemic  This chapter delves into how the pandemic influenced the program’s operations and the unique support provided to students during this challenging time. Don shares heartwarming examples of how program managers maintained connections and provided essential services to families.  36:37 Adapting to New Challenges  Don explains the fundamental differences in their model compared to traditional youth-serving organizations, especially in terms of maintaining relationships with students.   39:02 Looking Ahead: The Rural Youth Institute  Don introduces the Rural Youth Institute, designed to build on the successes of the previous program. He outlines its pillars and the intention to expand its reach beyond Maine to support rural youth nationwide.  44:04 The Importance of Community Connection  Don highlights the significance of fostering a sense of belonging among rural youth and the potential impact on their communities. He discusses the challenges of brain drain and how their program aims to empower young people to return and contribute to their hometowns.  46:01 A Legacy of Inspiration  In this closing chapter, Don shares the personal fulfillment he derives from his work, including officiating weddings for program alumni. The conversation wraps up with a reflection on the importance of optimism and community support in shaping the future of rural youth.

    49 min
  3. Olivia Clarke Describes Her Passion for Helping Herself and Others Find Humor in Their Battle with Cancer

    DEC 4

    Olivia Clarke Describes Her Passion for Helping Herself and Others Find Humor in Their Battle with Cancer

    When Olivia Clarke was first diagnosed with cancer and began treatment, she looked for ways to keep her spirits up as the grueling treatments and symptoms became increasingly difficult.  Gradually, she noticed moments – in waiting rooms, treatment areas, with strangers – that, when looked at with a certain lens, could be seen as downright funny.  This inspired her to launch “Humor Beats Cancer,” and online community that encourages other cancer patients to share their own moments of levity to soften the blows of this terrible disease.  Olivia’s attitude of empathy, hope, and optimism is infectious and comes through loud and clear in this Blue Sky conversation.    Chapters:   01:11 Meet Olivia Clarke Olivia Clarke, founder of Humor Beats Cancer, shares her journey from journalism to creating a supportive community for cancer patients through humor and storytelling.  02:11 Olivia’s Cancer Journey Begins  Olivia recounts her unexpected breast cancer diagnosis in 2015 during a routine checkup, detailing the rapid progression of her treatment and the emotional toll it took.  04:01 The Return of Cancer  After a period of being cancer-free, Olivia faces a stage four metastatic breast cancer diagnosis, leading to ongoing treatments and a search for coping mechanisms.  04:41 Finding Humor in Hardship  Amidst her struggles, Olivia discovers that humor can be a powerful coping tool, leading her to create a platform for sharing funny cancer stories.  06:03 The Birth of Humor Beats Cancer  In 2017, Olivia officially launches Humor Beats Cancer, utilizing social media to connect with others and share light-hearted stories that resonate with cancer patients.  07:21 The Impact of Humor  Olivia discusses how humor helps patients cope with their experiences, fostering connections and reducing feelings of isolation through shared laughter.  10:51 Creating Humorous Care Packages  Olivia explains the concept of humorous care packages designed to uplift cancer patients, filled with funny items and treats that defy traditional expectations.  12:59 The Power of Shared Stories  Through shared experiences, Olivia highlights how humor can transform the cancer narrative, helping individuals feel less alone and more connected.  17:01 Involvement of Caregivers  Olivia discusses the importance of including caregivers in her community, recognizing their challenges and the humor that can arise from their experiences.  18:49 Resilience and Optimism  Olivia shares her personal strategies for staying positive amidst adversity, emphasizing the importance of a supportive network and a hopeful mindset.  24:21 Workplace Support During Illness  Olivia reflects on the role of her supportive workplace during her cancer journey, highlighting the importance of understanding employers in navigating treatment.  29:02 The Four Fs of Support  Olivia discusses the essential elements that helped her and Lee Woodruff navigate the challenges of cancer: friends, family, funny, and faith.   31:05 Navigating Information Overload  Olivia shares her approach to cancer research, highlighting the importance of trusting medical professionals over diving into overwhelming information.   34:14 The Humor in Bad Advice  The conversation shifts to the often ridiculous suggestions cancer patients receive, illustrating the awkwardness of well-meaning but misguided advice.   36:52 Empathy in Illness: The Struggle to Connect  Olivia discusses the challenges of communication during illness, including the tendency for people to share their own experiences instead of listening.   39:05 Advice for New Patients  Offering wisdom for those newly diagnosed, Olivia encourages them to document their questions and take things step by step.

    50 min
  4. Special Episode for Gratitude Month, Featuring Reflections on Gratitude from Bill Burke and Blue Sky Alums

    NOV 27

    Special Episode for Gratitude Month, Featuring Reflections on Gratitude from Bill Burke and Blue Sky Alums

    November is Gratitude Month at the Optimism Institute and this episode wraps up our celebration while kicking off Thanksgiving weekend.  Blue Sky host and founder of The Optimism Institute Bill Burke shares his thoughts on the tight link between gratitude and optimism and has selected excerpts from past episodes to drive this point home.  Blue Sky alums explain the health benefits of gratitude, the many reasons to be grateful to be alive today, and why, despite our many challenges, the United States and its founding ideals are worth believing in and being thankful for.      Chapters:  00:00 Welcome to Blue Sky Podcast  Host Bill Burke introduces the Blue Sky Podcast, setting the stage for a special episode focused on gratitude. He emphasizes the importance of optimism and appreciation, especially during the Thanksgiving season.  01:20 The Meaning of Grace  Bill explores the origins of the word ‘grace’ and its connection to gratitude, linking it to the Latin word ‘gratia.’   02:14 Cicero on Gratitude  Quoting Cicero, Bill discusses the significance of gratitude as a foundational virtue that fosters optimism.  03:20 The Benefits of Gratitude  Bill highlights the health benefits of optimism and gratitude, referencing Dr. Richie Davidson’s insights on neuroplasticity. He introduces a practice of appreciation before meals to deepen our sense of gratitude.  06:03 Embracing “Pronoia”  Bill shares Kevin Kelly’s concept of “pronoia,” the belief that the universe is conspiring to help us succeed.   08:20 Life is Good: Gratitude in Adversity  Bert Jacobs from Life is Good reflects on how letters from customers facing hardships revealed a common thread of gratitude.   11:00 Gratitude for America  Bill pivots to discuss gratitude for the United States, featuring Anh Vu Sawyer’s thoughts on the freedom and resources America provides, enabling her to help others.  15:19 Loving America: A Personal Perspective  Ted Johnson shares his deep love for America, emphasizing its promise of democracy and equality.   17:10 Countering Negativity in Media  Bill discusses the challenge of negativity in the news and introduces guests like Angus Hervey and David Bornstein, who promote good news and solutions journalism.   18:24 The Power of Gratitude  Chris Anderson emphasizes the importance of daily gratitude practices and how they can transform our outlook on life. He encourages listeners to appreciate the simple joys and connections we often take for granted.  20:30 Gratitude as Contagious  David Gardner discusses the contagious nature of gratitude and optimism, highlighting how expressing appreciation can uplift others.   22:30 Appreciation in the Workplace  David Novak shares his philosophy on the importance of appreciation in leadership and workplace culture.   25:38 Healthcare Innovations and Gratitude  Bill reflects on the advancements in healthcare and the gratitude felt by patients and practitioners alike. He shares stories of resilience from guests who have faced significant health challenges.  28:00 Finding Gratitude in Hardship  Christina Menkemeller shares her journey of finding gratitude amidst illness, emphasizing the importance of recognizing ‘Godwinks.’ Her practice of daily gratitude helps her combat negativity.  30:16 The Impact of Mentorship  Bill highlights being grateful for mentors, with stories from Melissa Connolly and Jonathan Conyers. They express gratitude for the guidance they received, which now fuels their own efforts to help others.  33:01 The Pan Mass Challenge: A Legacy of Gratitude  Billy Starr discusses the Pan Mass Challenge and the gratitude expressed by participants. He contrasts the supportive atmosphere of the event with other athletic competitions, highlighting the power of thankfulness.

    38 min
  5. Throwback/Encore Presentation: Kevin Adler Discusses His New Book, 'When We Walk By,' and Explains Why He’s Optimistic About Our Ability to End Homelessness in America

    NOV 21

    Throwback/Encore Presentation: Kevin Adler Discusses His New Book, 'When We Walk By,' and Explains Why He’s Optimistic About Our Ability to End Homelessness in America

    Kevin Adler grew up with a beloved uncle, Mark, who never forgot to send him a Hallmark card on his birthday.  Over time, Kevin learned that his uncle was unhoused and suffering from schizophrenia.  When Mark died at the age of 50, Kevin decided that working to solve the crisis of homelessness would be his life’s work.  The experience of having a close relative in this predicament made him realize that “everybody is somebody’s somebody,” and deserving of our compassion.  He founded Miracle Messages, a nonprofit working to tell the stories of individuals who are unhoused, in hopes of connecting and reuniting them with estranged friends and family.  To date, they have facilitated more than 800 people and have created a phone buddy system where volunteers communicate weekly with their assigned partner, building relationships where none existed before. Kevin Adler tells this story in his new book, When We Walk By, and shares many of these stories in this episode, while also describing his optimistic views on basic income and affordable housing programs.    Chapters: 03:09 The Personal Journey Begins  Kevin recounts his personal connection to homelessness through his Uncle Mark, whose struggles profoundly influenced his life’s work. This emotional story sets the stage for Kevin’s mission to humanize those experiencing homelessness.  05:19 The Crisis of Shared Humanity  Kevin discusses the dual crises of inadequate service systems and a lack of shared humanity in addressing homelessness.   08:12 The Jeffrey Story  Kevin shares the poignant story of Jeffrey, a man he helped reconnect with his family after years of separation.   12:00 Understanding Relational Poverty  The conversation shifts to the concept of relational poverty, emphasizing the importance of social connections in preventing homelessness.   16:39 Challenging Stereotypes  Kevin discusses the harmful stereotypes surrounding homelessness and the diverse experiences of those affected.   19:54 Miracle Messages Programs  Kevin elaborates on the various programs of Miracle Messages, including family reunification and the Miracle Friends Phone Buddy program.   25:00 The Impact of Basic Income  The discussion turns to the controversial topic of basic income, with Kevin sharing insights from his organization’s pilot program.   30:01 Rethinking Assistance: The Impact of Basic Income  In this chapter, Kevin Adler discusses the misconceptions surrounding financial assistance for the homeless, emphasizing that many recipients prioritize housing and basic needs over substance use.   32:01 Success Metrics: Measuring Impact  Adler shares the positive outcomes of Miracle Messages’ programs, revealing that 80% of reunions lead to improved health and social conditions.   34:17 The Cost of Homelessness: A Financial Perspective  This chapter dives into the financial implications of homelessness, comparing the costs of emergency services for unhoused individuals to the potential savings of providing basic income.   36:47 The Affordable Housing Crisis  Adler tackles the pressing issue of affordable housing, discussing the systemic underinvestment and barriers faced by those in need.   39:13 Lessons from History: The 1906 San Francisco Earthquake  Drawing parallels between the 1906 earthquake and today’s homelessness crisis, Adler illustrates how collective trauma can lead to community resilience and action.   46:15 Taking Action: How You Can Help  In this chapter, Adler encourages listeners to engage with their communities and challenge misconceptions about homelessness.

    53 min
  6. Sucheta Kamath Describes Her Optimistic Approach to Enhancing the Lives of Others Through Executive Function Training

    NOV 13

    Sucheta Kamath Describes Her Optimistic Approach to Enhancing the Lives of Others Through Executive Function Training

    In a culture that celebrates competence and achievement, we often label people struggling to get things done as “lazy,” “disorganized,” or “irresponsible.”  But through her training and practice as a speech-language pathologist, Sucheta Kamath developed a passion for identifying people who struggle with executive function skills and has designed innovated ways to train them to better achieve their goals. In this episode, Sucheta describes her latest venture, ExQ, uses a cutting edge, “game-based” tools to systematically train fundamental cognitive skills related to focus, mindset, planning, organization, goal management, impulse control, emotional regulation, and self-awareness.    FMI on ExQ:  https://exqinfiniteknowhow.com/    Chapters: 02:05 Meet Sucheta Kamath  Sucheta Kamath shares her background and journey into the field of speech language pathology, highlighting her passion for helping others.  06:26 The Journey to the U.S.  Sucheta discusses her transition from India to the United States, detailing her experiences with cultural differences and the challenges of communication in a new environment.  10:03 A Formative Patient Experience  Sucheta recounts a significant case involving a young mother who suffered a stroke during childbirth, exploring the cultural perceptions of communication needs and independence.  12:59 Lessons from Mass General  Sucheta shares insights gained from treating diverse patients and the nuanced understanding of cognitive impairments.  16:32 Understanding Executive Function  Sucheta defines executive function as a set of skills used to adjust thoughts and actions to achieve personal goals, emphasizing its complexity beyond mere organization.  19:20 The Importance of Executive Function Skills  Delving deeper, Sucheta explains why executive function skills are crucial for success and how societal misconceptions undervalue these abilities in education.  24:48 Optimism and Agency  Sucheta discusses the intersection of optimism and personal agency, emphasizing the importance of persistence and self-efficacy in achieving fulfillment.  28:05 The Evolution of Education  Sucheta discusses the historical context of education, tracing its roots back to the era of child labor and how societal changes have influenced our current educational system.   33:44 Navigating Modern Challenges  The conversation shifts to the external and internal challenges facing today’s youth, including the impact of social media, climate change, and feelings of anxiety and loneliness.   39:09 The Role of Technology in Learning  Sucheta shares insights on the distractions posed by smartphones and social media in educational settings, advocating for limits on their use in schools. She highlights the need for students to build executive function skills to manage their digital interactions effectively.  44:01 Introducing EXQ: A New Curriculum  Sucheta introduces her innovative curriculum, EXQ, designed to enhance students’ executive function skills through personalized learning. She outlines the key components of the program, focusing on self-awareness, emotional regulation, and strategic thinking.  51:18 Building Skills for the Future  In this chapter, Sucheta elaborates on the specific skills she aims to instill in students through her curriculum, including problem-solving and resilience.   55:30 The Broader Impact of Executive Function  The discussion wraps up with Sucheta reflecting on the broader implications of developing executive function skills, such as empathy and moral responsibility. She encourages listeners to consider how these skills can foster a more compassionate and engaged society.

    58 min
  7. Melissa Connelly Describes Her Optimistic Journey From Eighth Grade Truant to CEO of OneGoal

    OCT 30

    Melissa Connelly Describes Her Optimistic Journey From Eighth Grade Truant to CEO of OneGoal

    Melissa Connelly had a rocky start to her high school career, being placed in her school’s truancy program after missing sixty days of classes in 8th grade.  Fortunately, Melissa found her guidance counselor, Mrs. Jeter, who changed her life.  With her help, Melissa turned her academic career around and through determined optimism, managed to earn college degrees and build a successful, high impact life.  She now oversees OneGoal, a national postsecondary access and success organization and she shares her inspiring story on this episode of Blue Sky.    Chapters:    02:11 Meet Melissa Connelly  Bill introduces Melissa Connelly, CEO of OneGoal, highlighting her journey as a first-generation college graduate and her commitment to helping underserved youth succeed in education.  03:21 A Challenging Upbringing  Melissa details the struggles she faced as a child of a single mother and her experiences in a truancy program that initially hindered her education.  05:39 The Turning Point  With the help of her social worker, Mrs. Jeter, Melissa learns to advocate for herself, transforming her academic trajectory from truancy to success in high school.  10:04 College Dreams Dashed  Melissa recounts her emotional experience of arriving at NYU only to realize she couldn’t afford the cab fare, leading to a difficult return home and reassessment of her college journey.  13:10 Introducing OneGoal  Melissa explains the mission of OneGoal, an organization dedicated to ensuring that every young person has the opportunity to achieve their post-secondary aspirations, addressing systemic barriers in education.  15:49 The Role of Mentorship  Melissa draws parallels between her experience with Mrs. Jeter and the mentorship provided by OneGoal, emphasizing the importance of caring adults in students’ lives.  18:02 How OneGoal Operates  Melissa describes how OneGoal identifies students in need of support and integrates its program into high schools to provide guidance and resources for post-secondary success.  21:02 Scaling the Impact  Melissa shares the scale of OneGoal’s impact, serving over 14,000 students in 300 schools, and discusses the organization’s efforts to train districts to provide similar support.  28:37 Equity in Education  Melissa discusses the need for equitable educational resources and support, emphasizing the importance of treating all students with the same care and attention afforded to athletes.  30:07 Measuring Success  Melissa shares the metrics of success for OneGoal, highlighting how their students outperform peers in graduation rates. She emphasizes the importance of both data and personal stories that keep her motivated in the challenging work of education.  35:03 Breaking Negative Labels  The conversation shifts to the impact of labels on students and how they can shape self-identity. Melissa advocates for removing negative stigmas and fostering a more supportive environment for all students.  36:53 Navigating the College Process  Melissa shares personal insights about her son’s college application journey, revealing the challenges he faces in a system that often overlooks individual identities. This discussion highlights the need for more personalized attention in education.  42:01 The Future of Education  Reflecting on the current state of education, Melissa emphasizes the need for systemic change to create equitable opportunities for all students.   46:06 Glimmers of Hope  Melissa introduces the concept of ‘glimmers’ as positive signs amidst challenges, encouraging a focus on hope and solutions in education.   50:16 Looking Ahead: A Vision for OneGoal  In a forward-looking discussion, Melissa envisions a future where OneGoal no longer needs to exist because the systemic issues in education have been addressed.

    53 min
  8. Author Jamie Metzl on His New, Optimistic Book, “Superconvergence”

    OCT 23

    Author Jamie Metzl on His New, Optimistic Book, “Superconvergence”

    Jamie Metzl is one of the world’s leading authorities on the implications of the intersecting AI, genetics, and biotechnology revolutions and how governments, corporations, organizations, and individuals can ride the wave of these unprecedented transformations to build their best possible futures. In this Blue Sky episode, he talks about the optimistic insights and opportunities he describes in his new book, Superconvergence.    Chapters: 01:11 Meet Jamie Metzl  Bill introduces Jamie Metzl, a technology and healthcare futurist, highlighting his impressive background and recent works. The discussion begins to explore the themes of Jamie’s latest book, ‘Superconvergence.’  02:44 The Nature of Optimism  Jamie shares his lifelong optimism and how his experiences, including his family’s history, have shaped his perspective.   06:07 The Power of Literacy  The conversation shifts to the remarkable increase in global literacy rates over the past century. Jamie emphasizes the significance of empowered minds and the potential for collaboration in addressing global challenges.  09:11 Understanding Biological Change  Jamie discusses the fluid nature of biology and the historical context of human intervention in biological systems.   13:10 Agricultural Innovations  The discussion focuses on the advancements in agricultural productivity, including the role of genetically modified organisms (GMOs).   17:03 The Miracle of COVID Vaccines  Jamie reflects on the rapid development of COVID vaccines, emphasizing the technological advancements that made it possible.   23:31 The Future of Precision Medicine  The conversation shifts to the promise of targeted and personalized medicine, which tailors treatments to individual patients. Jamie discusses the potential for precision healthcare to revolutionize treatment and improve outcomes.  29:18 Confronting Climate Change  In this chapter, Jamie Metzl discusses the pressing issue of climate change and its link to agriculture, highlighting how agricultural practices contribute significantly to carbon emissions.   30:04 Rethinking Agriculture  Metzl dives into the complexities of animal agriculture, revealing its massive environmental footprint and the ethical dilemmas it presents. He argues for a shift in perspective on how we produce and consume animal products, advocating for sustainable alternatives.  33:14 The Promise of Cultivated Meat  Exploring the emerging field of cell-cultured animal products, Metzl presents a vision for the future of meat that is both ethical and sustainable. He discusses how advancements in biotechnology could revolutionize our food systems while addressing environmental concerns.  36:04 Navigating Uncomfortable Innovations  In this segment, Metzl addresses the discomfort many feel about lab-grown meat and encourages listeners to research the realities of conventional animal farming.   39:27 Balancing Risks and Rewards  Metzl emphasizes the importance of weighing the potential risks and benefits of new technologies, including synthetic biology and genetic engineering. He highlights the need for careful consideration of the consequences while remaining optimistic about the innovations that can improve our lives.  44:40 Learning from History  Reflecting on the lessons from history, Metzl discusses how past technologies have shaped our present challenges, such as climate change. He urges a forward-thinking approach that embraces innovation while acknowledging its complexities.  46:02 Embracing the Future  In the closing chapter, Metzl encourages listeners to maintain an open mind about new technologies and their potential to solve pressing global issues. He stresses the importance of not getting locked into present anxieties, but rather looking ahead to the possibilities that lie in innovation.

    50 min
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Hosted by Bill Burke, founder of The Optimism Institute, this weekly podcast will feature inspiring leaders, authors, researchers, and big thinkers who are taking on some of our world’s toughest challenges with an infectious sense of optimism. Blue Sky takes its name from the meditation reminder that there’s always blue sky above, sometimes you just have to get your head above the clouds to see it.

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    2023 - 2024
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