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Join married couple Brad and Lisa as they explore the various dynamics of comic book relationships throughout pop culture and publishing history.

Comic Book Couples Counseling Podcast Brad & Lisa Gullickson

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    • 5.0 • 290 Ratings

Join married couple Brad and Lisa as they explore the various dynamics of comic book relationships throughout pop culture and publishing history.

    Daniel Warren Johnson on Transformers: Robots in Disguise

    Daniel Warren Johnson on Transformers: Robots in Disguise

    When people dare to complain about modern Transformers stories, they often single out the human characters and how they drag the spotlight away from the glorious Cybertron titans they paid their money to see. Optimus Prime is enough. Bumblebee is enough. We don't need Spike or Sparky to stretch the narrative. Just give us the 'bots.

    And yet, Daniel Warren Johnson, the virtuosic cartoonist behind Extremity, Murder Falcon, and Do a Powerbomb!, could not imagine telling his Transformers story without Spike and Sparky. Why? The humans are at the forefront of this week's podcast as we reflect on Daniel Warren Johnson and colorist Mike Spicer's first six issues and their catastrophic climax.

    Johnson sees Optimus Prime as the ultimate dad, and he wants to tell his ultimate dad saga while simultaneously reintroducing the Autobots and the Decepticons to Image Comics readers. His Transformers create a significant branch in Skybound's ever-expanding Energon Universe, which includes other titles like Void Rivals, Duke, and Cobra Commander. Telling an emotional and singular story while supporting the most exciting event in comics is a herculean task, and thankfully, for all his readers, Johnson is absolutely up for it.
    After we pour ourselves over Transformers issues one through six, we invite Daniel Warren Johnson onto the show for a hearty debrief. We discuss the humanity at the core of his story, why Sparky was always Optimus Prime's parallel figure, and what we can expect after the heroic and tragic events of the sixth issue.
    Transformers 7 is currently on comic stands, while the trade paperback collecting the first story arc will arrive on May 21st. Catch a preview of Transformers 8 on Skybound's website. You can continue this conversation by following Daniel Warren Johnson on Twitter, Instagram, and his Website.

    As always, Omnibus, the Digital Comic Store and Reader, sponsors our Referrals segment. This week, we selected two comic book titles on the site that satisfy this episode's themes. We won't spoil what they are here, but if you click the links below, you'll be immediately escorted to those books.




    Brad's Referral




    Lisa's Referral




    Other Relevant Links:




    Robert Kirkman, Joshua Williamson, and Daniel Warren Johnson at SDCC




    Appreciating Daniel Warren Johnson's Transformers, an essay




    Joshua Williamson and Tom Reilly on Duke




    The Ultimate Do a Powerbomb! Daniel Warren Johnson Interview




    The Ultimate Beta Ray Bill Daniel Warren Jonson Interview




    Subscribe to the Free CBCC Newsletter




    Final Round of Plugs (PHEW):

    Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY

    Join us at the Alamo Drafthouse in Winchester, Virginia, on 4/21 at 4:00 PM for our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II screening, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.

    Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.

    And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.
    Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts.

    Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.

    Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

    • 1 hr
    Man's Best with Jesse Lonergan and Pornsak Pichetshote

    Man's Best with Jesse Lonergan and Pornsak Pichetshote

    How many words belong on a page? How many panels? In this week's podcast, we uncover the answers by chatting with Pornsak Pichetshote and Jesse Lonergan about their new Boom Studios series, Man's Best. It's a radically personal work about three emotional support animals lost in space, and it forced its creators to rethink their collaborative impulses to achieve the best comic possible. And we're excited to report they pulled it off. Man's Best is, without doubt, one of the year's best comics.
    In our conversation, before we dig into the craft and math behind the comic, we challenge the themes Pichetshote and Lonergan are exploring with Man's Best. It's a saga born out of crisis, and it required the artists to adopt one of the most tried-and-true fictional devices: anthropomorphization. We consider the intrinsic value of placing animals in harm's way and how it immediately - and perilously - heightens an audience's emotions. One dog dies, and we're happy to watch John Wick eradicate a hundred goons. It's not a vice-versa situation.
    The first issue of Man's Best is out now, and the second issue will arrive in comic shops on April 24th. You can continue this conversation online by following Pornsak Pichetshote on Twitter and Instagram, as well as Jesse Lonergan on Twitter and Instagram.

    As always, Omnibus, the Digital Comic Store and Reader, sponsors our Referrals segment. This week, we selected two comic book titles on the site that satisfy this episode's themes. We won't spoil what they are here, but if you click the links below, you'll be immediately escorted to those books.




    Brad's Referral




    Lisa's Referral




    Other Relevant Links:




    Jesse Lonergan on CBCC, Talking Miss Truesdale




    SKTCHD's Exploration of the Connection Between Comics and Podcasts




    Subscribe to the Free CBCC Newsletter




    Final Round of Plugs (PHEW):

    Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY

    Join us at the Alamo Drafthouse in Winchester, Virginia, on 4/21 at 4:00 PM for our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II screening, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.

    Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.

    And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.
    Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts.

    Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.

    Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

    • 1 hr 8 min
    The Death of Comics Bookcase with Zack Quaintance

    The Death of Comics Bookcase with Zack Quaintance

    We've dreaded this moment for more than a minute. The Death of Comics Bookcase is here. Journalist Zack Quaintance has assembled a mighty fine coffin in the form of a comic book and put his old self into it. Having written for his old site, we'll miss him, but we also recognize this death as a rebirth loaded with possibility, and we can't help but be excited, too.

    Having dipped his toes into comic-making with Next Door, Zack Quaintance now plunges all the way in with his latest project. The Death of Comics Bookcase is an anthology featuring various rad artistic talent: Nick Cagnetti, P.J. Holden, Luke Horsman, Ryan Lee, Anna Readman, Pat Skott, and more. With stories like "The Werewolf Priest" and "The Responsibili-Teen," the book surfs through numerous genres, playing with our love of the medium while crafting a profoundly personal pseudo-biography.
    On this week's podcast, we grab Zack Quaintance for an intimate discussion regarding his need to make comics after spending so many years writing about them. We discuss the necessary death of his old self and his hopes for the new one. We chat about the various doors he's closed in his life and how he was able to kick down the one that blocked his path to becoming a comics creator. If he can do it, you can too. Prepare yourself for inspiration.
    The Death of Comics Bookcase is currently seeking funding via Kickstarter. The project is already complete; we've read it and backed it ourselves. You can also continue this conversation with Quaintance by following him on Twitter and Instagram.

    As always, Omnibus, the Digital Comic Store and Reader, sponsors our Referrals segment. This week, we selected two comic book titles on the site that satisfy this episode's themes. We won't spoil what they are here, but if you click the links below, you'll be immediately escorted to those books.




    Brad's Referral




    Lisa's Referral




    Other Relevant Links:




    WonderCon with The Geekly Grind Part 1




    WonderCon with The Geekly Grind Part 2




    WonderCon with The Geekly Grind Part 3




    Subscribe to the Free CBCC Newsletter




    Final Round of Plugs (PHEW):

    Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY

    Join us at the Alamo Drafthouse in Winchester, Virginia, on 4/21 at 4:00 PM for our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II screening, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.

    Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.

    And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.
    Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts.

    Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.

    Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Becky Cloonan and Tula Lotay on Somna

    Becky Cloonan and Tula Lotay on Somna

    A story is never one story. A story is several stories. It's the story imagined by its author or authors, as is often the case in comics, and it's the story imagined by its many readers. They can be similar or significantly different, but none of them are the same. Never have we been more aware of this phenomenon than when we were talking to Becky Cloonan and Tula Lotay about their new comic, Somna.

    The DSTLRY series gripped us immediately. One issue in, we found ourselves challenged, wrestling with how these witch trial stories typically propel themselves. Fear and hate are the enemy, but what happens when the paranoia is justified? Both of us interpreted the story differently, but our interpretations differed slightly from Becky Cloonan's headcanon, and hers differed slightly from Tula Lotay's headcanon. Fascinating.

    We can agree on Somna's plot. Ingrid is unhappily wed to the town bailiff, who succeeds by sniffing out witches and bringing them to a cleansing fire. His work consumes him, drying his desire for Ingrid and leaving her open to shadowy whispers from a potentially demonic phantom. Becky Cloonan and Tula Lotay trade pages throughout, setting barriers between dream and reality before breaking them down in tremendous fashion.

    Somna's third and final issue arrives in shops today. It's the culmination of a decade-long journey for Cloonan and Lotay, and they're eager to share their inspirations, interpretations, and intentions with us. Our conversation is spoiler-ish -- we HAD to talk about that last panel, so it's best if you're caught up on the series before diving into our episode.

    To continue this discussion, you can find Becky Cloonan on Twitter and Instagram, and Tula Lotay on Twitter and Instagram.

    As always, Omnibus, the Digital Comic Store and Reader, sponsors our Referrals segment. This week, we selected two comic book titles on the site that satisfy this episode's themes. We won't spoil what they are here, but if you click the links below, you'll be immediately escorted to those books.




    Brad's Referral




    Lisa's Referral




    Other Relevant Links:




    Subscribe to the Free CBCC Newsletter




    Final Round of Plugs (PHEW):

    Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY

    Join us at the Alamo Drafthouse in Winchester, Virginia, on 4/21 at 4:00 PM for our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II screening, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.

    Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.

    And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.
    Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts.

    Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.

    Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

    • 59 min
    The Ultimate The Enfield Gang Massacre Interview with Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips

    The Ultimate The Enfield Gang Massacre Interview with Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips

    Walk into your local comic book store and give it a good browse. These days, you won't find too many Western comics. When a publisher like Image Comics grants a person the opportunity to make one, they must seize it and run wild. Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips cram The Enfield Gang Massacre with everything they love about the genre. It's got bank robberies, shootouts, and Gatling guns, oh my.

    When Condon and Phillips last appeared on the podcast, we speculated that The Enfield Gang Massacre and its sibling series That Texas Blood were their Hellboy saga. Within this massive, time-spanning tale, they can go anywhere and explore anything, as long as it speaks to the lowercase evil and the uppercase Evil that frequently corrupts humanity's heart.
    However, with that conversation, we had only read The Enfield Gang Massacre's first issue. This time, we've devoured the whole darn thing, and we had to go full-spoilers with the creators. We start at the end with the new six-page prequel story appearing in The Enfield Gang Massacre's trade paperback (out April 9th). We consider how this short story reworks our understanding of what Condon and Phillips are building with their Western and discuss just how far back they could go with That Texas Blood.

    You can continue this chat with the That Texas Blood creators by following Chris Condon on Twitter and Instagram and following Jacob Phillips on Twitter and Instagram.

    As always, Omnibus, the Digital Comic Store and Reader, sponsors our Referrals segment. This week, we selected two comic book titles on the site that satisfy this episode's themes. We won't spoil what they are here, but if you click the links below, you'll be immediately escorted to those books.




    Brad's Referral




    Lisa's Referral




    Other Relevant Links:




    Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips on The Enfield Gang Massacre




    Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips on That Texas Blood




    Andrew Cumming on Out of Darkness




    Subscribe to the Free CBCC Newsletter




    Final Round of Plugs (PHEW):

    Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY

    Join us at the Alamo Drafthouse in Winchester, Virginia, on 4/21 at 4:00 PM for our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II screening, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.

    Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.

    And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.
    Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts.

    Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.

    Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

    • 1 hr 11 min
    The Ultimate Tom King Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow Interview

    The Ultimate Tom King Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow Interview

    Who are we? Who do we want to be? Sometimes, the truth is a lie well told. Tom King returns to the podcast for his most in-depth conversation, breaking down the themes of his iconic Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow run and why so much of his personal history wound up within it.

    Explore no further if you have not already read Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. We spoil everything. We've wanted to have this conversation with Tom King since we read the first issue, and it became utterly vital for our well-being after we read the last issue. We begin with the title and its significance at the start of the project versus its significance at the halfway point. From there, we consider Supergirl's quest alongside the vengeance-seeking Ruthye, how both characters are changed by the other, and just exactly what we're supposed to take away from that final page.

    A comic like Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow doesn't come around too often. Every creator involved, from King to artist Bilquis Evely to colorist Matheus Lopes to letter Clayton Cowles, is operating at the height of their powers. It seems impossible to replicate, yet the entire team returns to comic shops this week with Helen of Wyndhorn. And yeah, we've read the first issue, and we're already in awe of what they're cooking inside this Wizard of Oz meets Conan the Barbarian tale.
    Special Bonus! Learn Tom King's Secret Comic Book Couples Counseling origin. We'll say no more here, but it's a fun tidbit for podcast trivia seekers.
    Finally, we begin our episode celebrating this year's Awesome Con experience and the first-ever CBCC panel held on March 8th at 8:30 PM in Room 206 of the Washington DC Convention Center. Our thanks to everyone who came out for our counseling session.
    Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow was originally published between August 2021 and April 2022. It's currently available in trade paperback from DC Comics, but a new Deluxe Hardcover edition will arrive on July 24th. Find it wherever rad books are sold.

    Continue this conversation with Tom King via Twitter, Threads, and Instagram.

    As always, Omnibus, the Digital Comic Store and Reader, sponsors our Referrals segment. This week, we selected two comic book titles on the site that satisfy this episode's themes. We won't spoil what they are here, but if you click the links below, you'll be immediately escorted to those books.




    Brad's Referral




    Lisa's Referral



    Don't forget to join us for the first-ever Comic Book Couples Counseling panel on March 8th at Washington DC's Awesome Con. Room 206 at 8:30 PM!

    Other Relevant Links:




    Tom King and Elsa Charretier on Love Everlasting




    Tom King and Mitch Gerads on Batman: The Brave and the Bold




    Tom King on Danger Street




    Subscribe to the Free CBCC Newsletter




    Final Round of Plugs (PHEW):

    Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY

    Join us at the Alamo Drafthouse in Winchester, Virginia, on 3/17 at 4:00 PM for our Hellboy (2004) screening, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.

    Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.

    And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.
    Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts.

    Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.

    Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

    • 1 hr 26 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
290 Ratings

290 Ratings

ChristopherLG ,

A True Gift

You'd think the concept of analyzing romances among comic book characters would be an easy podcast to make, but I don't think anyone other than Brad and Lisa could have pulled it off. They may seek guidance from love experts and say they're only experts at loving each other, but they are true love experts. They complement each other so well, and they are so positive and enthusiastic. From their analyses to their Creator Corner interviews, Brad and Lisa have an incredible dynamic.

chris41626 ,

Amazing Podcast!!!

These guys (alright, guy and gal) are one of the best podcasts around. If you are a nerd and/or you have someone who’s a nerd, this is your podcast. Hands down.

sierackij ,

Best comic book podcast!

One of my single favorite comic book podcasts, Brad and Lisa do some of the very best interviews around. They also have extremely thoughtful insights on all of the books they discuss. If you like comic books, this podcast is a must follow!

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