12 episodes

Disrupt the Dialogue is a podcast designed to allow leaders of color to share their personal experience and insight regarding the effect that race has on their lives and careers. Through this open and honest sharing of individual experiences, we hope to connect our guests and our listeners to create a common understanding of the effects that race has on leaders of color, create a community of support, and share tools and resources to support BIPOC leaders.

Join co-hosts Tina Wright-Ervin, Organizational Effectiveness Consultant, and Alexander Figueroa, Assistant Director of Learning and Development, in this podcast from the American Public Human Services Association (APHSA). Authentic and informative, these are the conversations that leaders of color are having about the office that don’t always feel safe in the office.

Disrupt the Dialogue The American Public Human Services Association (APHSA)

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 16 Ratings

Disrupt the Dialogue is a podcast designed to allow leaders of color to share their personal experience and insight regarding the effect that race has on their lives and careers. Through this open and honest sharing of individual experiences, we hope to connect our guests and our listeners to create a common understanding of the effects that race has on leaders of color, create a community of support, and share tools and resources to support BIPOC leaders.

Join co-hosts Tina Wright-Ervin, Organizational Effectiveness Consultant, and Alexander Figueroa, Assistant Director of Learning and Development, in this podcast from the American Public Human Services Association (APHSA). Authentic and informative, these are the conversations that leaders of color are having about the office that don’t always feel safe in the office.

    Commit to Yourself. Commit to Community.

    Commit to Yourself. Commit to Community.

    On this episode, we are joined by Dr. Raquel Hatter, Managing Director of the Human Services
    Program at the Kresge Foundation, to discuss her approach to leadership as well as how she
    implements equity, diversity, inclusion, and belonging (EDIB) in her work every day.
    At Kresge, Dr. Hatter focuses on family-centered systems change, with a particular emphasis on communities of color. This interview delves into the necessity for system change and the many challenges that arise in effecting those positive transformations.
    Dr. Hatter's work is deeply rooted in her lived experience of growing up in a two-generation
    household that relied on services, and in this interview, she offers lessons to other leaders as
    they pursue this necessary work within their communities.
    Resources:
    “Battlefield of the Mind” by Joyce Meyer: https://amzn.to/4aN8Jh4 
    “Collective Courage” by Jessica Gordon Nembhard: https://amzn.to/44boGv8 

    • 27 min
    Take Every Opportunity to Teach

    Take Every Opportunity to Teach

    We sit down with Michael Becketts, the Director of Fairfax County, Virginia Department of Family Services. Michael shares the details of his professional journey, from being a social worker to understanding his desire to create a more macro-level impact in the sector as a
    leader.
    In his current role, Michael has learned the importance of seeing individuals as whole people, embracing their intersecting identities, and fostering authentic conversations that help them bring their best selves to the table.
    This conversation provides an approach for human services workers to better understand and apply their strengths as they help communities thrive while also offering insight into how to navigate the intersections of race and identity.

    • 48 min
    Learning to Stand in Your Greatness

    Learning to Stand in Your Greatness

    Shaneen Moore, Deputy Assistant Commissioner of the Minnesota Department of Human Services Children and Family Services and Director of the Administration’s Child Support Division, tackles the effects of imposter syndrome that many BIPOC leaders face, as well as the
    deep importance of listening to people with lived experience.

    Shaneen’s career in the human services sector began with an understanding of the value she brought as someone whose life was significantly enriched by the human services system. She stood in stark contrast to others who were on a more traditional career path, and so this episode talks about those differences along with the approach Shaneen takes to ensure she’s able to serve the communities of Minnesota while always being her authentic self.

    Gain insight into what leaders can do to enhance their work with people from diverse backgrounds, and learn what it means to stand in your greatness.
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    “Whiteness in Plain View: A History of Racial Exclusion in Minnesota,” by Chad Montrie: https://amzn.to/48zpcnj 
    Be a part of Disrupt the Dialogue: use the hashtag #DisruptTheDialogue or write to us at jgaron@aphsa.org. 

    Disrupt the Dialogue is produced by APHSA. Editing and sound design for this episode was done by Bea Mitchell.

    • 38 min
    Being Bold: Building Safe and Inclusive Communities

    Being Bold: Building Safe and Inclusive Communities

    Emeka Madu, the Health and Government Solutions Manager with KPMG, joins us to share his unique perspective as a leader of color and second-generation Nigerian immigrant. Working within the private sector, Emeka is able to offer a different take on nationwide human services work than what we’re used to hearing.

    For Emeka, it’s been about leaders being able to help others feel seen and applying that understanding to their approach to mentorship. He sees his personal history as a testament to that need and a reason to ensure that we include all identities in the conversations that drive us forward. This episode speaks to the necessity for BIPOC leaders to be bold in their efforts to
    build safe and inclusive communities while taking on underrepresentation in their respective industries.
    Be a part of Disrupt the Dialogue: use the hashtag #DisruptTheDialogue or write to us at jgaron@aphsa.org.

    Disrupt the Dialogue is produced by APHSA. Editing and sound design for this episode was done by Bea Mitchell.

    • 34 min
    Intersectionality and Authenticity: Understanding Perspectives from the Past to Change the Future

    Intersectionality and Authenticity: Understanding Perspectives from the Past to Change the Future

    We speak to Jonathan Palmer, a nonprofit management consultant with director-level experience in local community centers throughout Minnesota. Jonathan details raw personal experiences that have not only shaped his professional journey but shed light on the profound impact of race on our nation. Throughout the interview, he delves into the historical injustices that have disproportionately affected certain communities while also outlining tactics that leaders can adopt to take on the modern-day implications of the past—within the human services sector and beyond.
    Listeners are given a call to action to create positive change while understanding that change comes through connecting with others and building something better together within your
    community.
    Be a part of Disrupt the Dialogue: use the hashtag #DisruptTheDialogue or write to us at jgaron@aphsa.org. 

    Disrupt the Dialogue is produced by APHSA. Editing and sound design for this episode was done by Bea Mitchell.

    • 46 min
    Nurture Yourself, Sustain the Work: BONUS Live Episode

    Nurture Yourself, Sustain the Work: BONUS Live Episode

    In this exciting bonus episode of Disrupt the Dialogue, hosts Tina Wright Irvin and Alex Figueroa welcome their first live audience. Recording at the APHSA National Human Services Summit 2023 in Baltimore, MD, this episode gathers past guests from season one in a discussion focused on the importance of self-care for those of us in the human services sector.
    The conversation moves from the personal—how individuals incorporate self-care practices such as journaling—to the more structural, as they talk about the challenges of helping others while working in spaces where they are sometimes asked to adjust who they are.

    This panel of experts dives deep into the motivations behind their work, why they do it, and how they continue to do it while also offering advice and perspectives from years of experience. Listeners are provided with a road map for how they can sustain their efforts to better their communities and themselves.
    Be a part of Disrupt the Dialogue: use the hashtag #DisruptTheDialogue or write to us at jgaron@aphsa.org.
    Disrupt the Dialogue is produced by APHSA. Editing and sound design for this episode was done by Bea Mitchell.

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
16 Ratings

16 Ratings

suzieqjenny ,

Insightful & thought provoking with great guests

I really enjoyed this podcast. There are two episodes so far. The hosts are wonderful with great questions and information. The guests have been so great. Lots of perspective, ideas, and thoughts that have stuck with me.

Alex Clermont ,

Love this insight and hope it continues

Only heard the first show so far, but their guest, as well as the hosts, were really engaging. They brought a definite clarity in my way of viewing EDI work end my interactions with other VIPOC leaders.

Jennylee65 ,

Disrupt the Dialogue

Really enjoyed listening to this powerful podcast with insights from Derrik Anderson, talking about his evolution as a leader of color, and how he embodies his work furthering the cause of EDI. We learned about being a truthteller, being a curious learner, and how the authentic work of EDI is an emotional journey. “Never sell more of your soul then you can buy back in a day.”

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