College & Career Readiness Radio

T.J. Vari

College & Career Readiness Radio with T.J. Vari A podcast about all things career and college readiness. Brought to you by MaiaLearning.

  1. Scaling Internships for Every Student with Brandon Busteed

    HÁ 4 DIAS

    Scaling Internships for Every Student with Brandon Busteed

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Brandon Busteed. Brandon says that work-integrated learning connects traditional academic study with learning that happens on the job and includes not only internships, but also co-ops, apprenticeships, job shadowing, and long-term classroom projects designed with industry input.​ Brandon points out that internships are a game changer: students who have an internship in college are about twice as likely to secure a good job at graduation and remain engaged in their careers, but under a third of graduates actually have such internships with real classroom applicability.​​ He emphasizes that the biggest problems are scale and equity, noting that while 8.2 million college students want internships, only 3.6 million receive one; access skews toward students with more resources and social connections.​ Brandon argues that the internship supply-demand gap could be closed if every employer devoted 5% of their jobs to interns, and that even paying all interns fairly would be comparable in cost to other large-scale federal investments.​ According to Brandon, the quality of internships matters as much as their availability: longer internships yield better results, but any length is valuable if there’s a meaningful project, feedback, and structured reflection alongside clear learning goals.​ He believes that high-quality, work-integrated learning can and should be embedded into classrooms through real-world, project-based work that exposes students to a variety of industry roles.​ Brandon’s work at Edconic includes “industry immersive” programs, which partner with well-known organizations so students can experience hands-on projects, receive direct feedback, and learn about multiple types of jobs even if traditional internships aren’t an option.​ He insists that co-designing and co-teaching these experiences with educators and industry leaders is critical, as educators bring assessment and pedagogical skill while industry partners provide real-world context and mentorship.​ Brandon says that parents and educators often focus too much on grades and test scores, undervaluing work experience even though it’s vital for career success.​ Lastly, Brandon calls for a culture shift: he believes that policymakers, schools, parents, and employers need to treat paid, quality work experiences as a fundamental part of education, not just an option for a privileged few.

    31min
  2. Profession-Based Learning with Alisa Morse

    11 DE NOV.

    Profession-Based Learning with Alisa Morse

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Alisa Morse, K12 Director for the CAPS Network. Alisa Morse explains the concept of “profession-based learning” as an umbrella term for connecting students with real-world industry experiences, including internships, co-ops, client-connected projects, and career discovery.​ She highlights that high-impact client-connected projects involve students working directly with industry partners to solve open-ended problems that aren't mission critical but offer authentic challenges, mentorship, and opportunities for innovation and self-discovery.​ The CAPS Network brings industry experts into classrooms, enabling all students—not just those in internships—to participate in practical, relevant projects and develop durable professional skills like teamwork and project management.​ Profession-based learning can be adapted for every age group, with new initiatives starting in middle and even elementary school to foster career awareness early and address gaps in work-based learning equity.​ Alisa details how projects can fit into core classes (e.g., connecting biology with local Parks and Rec projects), elective/academy pathways, short challenge events, or through mentorship and internal partnerships within the school community.​ She emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and metacognition during and after these projects to deepen learning and help students make informed decisions about their future.​ The episode includes practical advice for rural schools and underserved communities: start with internal resources like school staff, local Chamber of Commerce, and county economic development offices to connect students with real work experiences.​ Alisa shares free resources (experience.work and CAPS Network website) that help educators launch and operate profession-based learning, including customizable templates and guides for partnering with industry.​ Her call to action for educators is to “go where students lead”—following their interests and energy to create transformative learning opportunities, and embracing humility to allow students’ passions to guide school improvement. You can reach Alisa at alisa@yourcapsnetwork.org. And, if you want to discuss college and career readiness with the host of the show, including MaiaLearning as a solution to bridge the gap between industry partners and the school system, book time here.

    29min
  3. From Compliance to Connection–Transforming Classrooms for Real-World Readiness with Scott Carr

    28 DE OUT.

    From Compliance to Connection–Transforming Classrooms for Real-World Readiness with Scott Carr

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Scott Carr from CESA2 in Wisconsin. Scott specializes in connecting academic learning with real-world applications through career and community readiness frameworks.​ He emphasizes that lasting change in education starts with shifting mindsets and moving away from compliance-based systems to a re-culturing process focused on purpose and relevance.​ The transformation involves multiple phases: re-culturing and visioning (year one), engaging a readiness team of educators, piloting innovative classroom practices (year two), and full universal implementation led by teacher champions (year three).​ Scott highlights the impact on teachers, notably increased self-efficacy, rejuvenation, and desire for meaningful change, as well as improved student engagement, purpose, and attendance.​ Real-world application is achieved by having students work in collaborative teams with assigned roles and responsibilities, centering classroom activities on profession-based themes, and shifting grading from compliance to content defense and discovery.​ He shares real-life examples, demonstrating that classes using profession-based learning see higher engagement, accountability, and proficiency rates—even in controlled, A/B test settings compared to traditional methods.​ Community and business partners are actively involved in work-based learning, benefiting both students and local organizations.​ Scott advocates for measuring impact through journey maps, testimonials, and portfolio-based assessments, rather than relying only on test scores—though test scores and other academic benchmarks still matter.​ The key takeaway for educators: meaningful change is “not doing more, it’s doing differently”—restructuring practice to energize teachers and students, not simply adding to their workload. If you’re interested in hearing more about tools that can facilitate what Scott discussed, including a student portfolio, book a time here to talk to the host of the show.

    32min
  4. Career-Connected Learning in Every Classroom with Steve Regur and Ed Hidalgo

    14 DE OUT.

    Career-Connected Learning in Every Classroom with Steve Regur and Ed Hidalgo

    Our guests for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio are Dr. Steve Regur and Ed Hidalgo from connectthework.com. Ed Hidalgo emphasizes the importance of giving students agency in their academic and career planning, focusing on self-discovery and personal strengths. Steve Regur discusses strategies for fostering student empowerment, including the use of personalized learning plans and reflective activities. Both guests highlight ways that schools can use career frameworks and tools to help students connect learning to future opportunities. Ed notes the value of career exploration starting in elementary and middle school, not just high school, to build awareness and readiness early. Steve shares how engaging families and community partners increases student motivation and ensures relevance in career readiness programs. They underscore the need for teaching students practical skills for navigating career pathways, such as networking, informational interviewing, and tracking progress. Ed and Steve both advise educators to provide students with multiple pathways, including technical, community college, and four-year university options. They stress that continuous feedback, goal-setting, and self-reflection are key elements for students to remain engaged and confident about their future plans. The guests share real-life examples of students discovering strengths and interests through structured curriculum, assessment tools, and mentorship. Closing advice centers on cultivating student curiosity, encouraging student voice, and building strong school-to-career connections to prepare learners for purposeful futures. If you want to see a tool that can help teachers facilitate all of what Ed and Steve talk about on the show, book a demo now. If you want to discuss college and career readiness with the host, book time here.

    33min
  5. Removing Barriers to College Access with Ray Thiry

    30 DE SET.

    Removing Barriers to College Access with Ray Thiry

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Raymond Thiry from Access ASU. Ray highlights the complex requirements for college eligibility—such as 16 core required courses and a minimum GPA—that often differ from state high school graduation requirements. Without monitoring these, many students miss out on university options they are close to qualifying for. Ray notes that high school counselors in Arizona (and beyond) are stretched thin, with ratios around 650:1, making it hard to track and support all students in becoming college-eligible. Access ASU bridges these gaps for students—especially first-generation college-bound students—by providing hands-on support for applications, FAFSA, and navigating system complexities. Ray and his colleagues work directly with K-12 schools and communities, often in Spanish as well. He underscores the importance of demystifying the real cost of college. Published tuition is not the price most students actually pay; with scholarships, need-based aid, work programs, and employer tuition benefits, college is often more affordable than families expect. Ray advocates for aligning high school course planning to university eligibility from the beginning, reverse-engineering programs to ensure more students naturally meet admissions requirements. He insists that “access” includes communicating the value of university as well as explaining career and technical pathways, but warns against misconceptions: low transfer and completion rates at community colleges mean pathways must be followed carefully. Ray shares that institutions like ASU offer student success programs such as the “First Eight Weeks” and practical classes on “how to do college,” which are especially helpful for first-generation and low-income students. For schools, Ray recommends improved data sharing and direct admissions strategies to bridge high school and college transitions smoothly. His billboard message: No one regrets getting their degree—invest in access, preparation, and planning for every student’s future.

    34min
  6. Developing a Shared Vision for  Work-Based Learning with Amanda Daniels

    16 DE SET.

    Developing a Shared Vision for Work-Based Learning with Amanda Daniels

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Amanda Daniels from GPS Education Partners. Amanda emphasizes that building quality work-based learning starts with a clear and shared vision among all stakeholders—teachers, district leaders, business partners, students, and collegiate partners. She warns that the absence of a shared vision leads to confusion, burnout, and lack of alignment on student success. Amanda shares practical strategies for facilitating vision clarity: ask every stakeholder “what does success look like?” then get them in the room to co-create a repeatable, energizing vision statement. She highlights the importance of including collegiate and community partners early in planning, to build “bridges” for students’ ongoing education and avoid the “drop-off model” between high school and post-secondary life. Amanda encourages using tools like the “five whys” for consensus, Knoster’s Model of Complex Change for strategic planning, and a logic model for organizing implementation steps. She recommends hiring a consultant as a neutral party to facilitate and sustain strategic planning, but says districts can make progress using these models even without outside support. Amanda stresses measuring what truly matters—beyond headcounts—by tracking growth in students’ social capital, stakeholder confidence, and meaningful work-based learning outcomes. Her central message: College and career readiness is too important to leave to chance—create a shared vision, align your community, and measure what matters for students and partners. She points to Jason Van Nus for a description of ROI, Kristy Volesky for how to tell a story, and Julia Freeland-Fisher for more about the network effect of work-based learning.

    33min
  7. Empowering All Students to Enact Their Postsecondary Plans with Eder Joseph

    2 DE SET.

    Empowering All Students to Enact Their Postsecondary Plans with Eder Joseph

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Assistant Superintendent Eder Joseph. EJ shares that about 65% of his CTE high school graduates pursue two- or four-year college, reflecting that CTE is a path to college as well as careers. He highlights that parents often carry outdated views of CTE as “vocational,” and that it requires effort to change the narrative toward CTE as a viable, rigorous, and respected option. EJ points out that many of his students use CTE pathways as a springboard, for example, learning culinary, cosmetology, or trades and then choosing to pursue business education in college so they can become entrepreneurs in their field. He describes intentional program features such as having students in programs (like cosmetology) develop business plans, create resumes, and design business cards with help from other CTE students. EJ notes that students in his CTE programs get the chance to showcase their business plans schoolwide, including details like pricing and service offerings, which builds real-world business skills. EJ states that branding and program structure matter: his district groups CTE programs into “schools of” (e.g., School of Allied Health, School of Performing Arts Academy, School of Skills Trade) and uses “career major” terminology to enhance program appeal and clarity for families. EJ is a big fan of community college because of its affordability and the flexibility for students to explore various pathways before committing to a four-year program. Don’t miss what he shares about his own children who followed the two-year community college to four-year university path, resulting in significant cost savings. EJ reports that dual enrollment is a core focus, both in academic and CTE courses, making it possible for students to earn college credit prior to high school graduation. He urges district leaders to research local colleges’ offerings and build dual enrollment partnerships, noting that community colleges are generally eager to partner with high schools. EJ explains that by aligning curriculum with college offerings and collaborating with decision-makers, high schools can quickly expand dual enrollment opportunities for students. He emphasizes the value of work-based learning: students in allied health programs, for example, complete clinical rotations that help clarify which areas of the field they do (and do not) want to pursue. EJ sees the process of learning what careers students don’t want as equally valuable as confirming what they do want, minimizing costly missteps after high school. EJ believes that both credentials and lived experience are key—his students leave with “real” industry-valued credentials that pass scrutiny from industry partners. He and his district use parent engagement sessions—including events with community college partners—to educate families about the financial benefits, flexible transfer options, and overall value of CTE and dual enrollment. EJ shares that enrollment in his district has increased by 18% since adopting strategies like the exploratory major period and dual enrollment partnerships. He stresses the importance of both CTE and AP/academic rigor, ensuring that all students are challenged and graduate prepared for either college or a successful career. EJ’s “billboard” message: every student should graduate with a true understanding of the pathway they are choosing, so that they avoid spending unnecessary time and money finding their direction after high school.

    33min
  8. Empowering All Students to Enact Their Postsecondary Plans with Eder Joseph

    2 DE SET.

    Empowering All Students to Enact Their Postsecondary Plans with Eder Joseph

    Our guest for this episode of College & Career Readiness Radio is Assistant Superintendent Eder Joseph. EJ shares that about 65% of his CTE high school graduates pursue two- or four-year college, reflecting that CTE is a path to college as well as careers. He highlights that parents often carry outdated views of CTE as “vocational,” and that it requires effort to change the narrative toward CTE as a viable, rigorous, and respected option. EJ points out that many of his students use CTE pathways as a springboard, for example, learning culinary, cosmetology, or trades and then choosing to pursue business education in college so they can become entrepreneurs in their field. He describes intentional program features such as having students in programs (like cosmetology) develop business plans, create resumes, and design business cards with help from other CTE students. EJ notes that students in his CTE programs get the chance to showcase their business plans schoolwide, including details like pricing and service offerings, which builds real-world business skills. EJ states that branding and program structure matter: his district groups CTE programs into “schools of” (e.g., School of Allied Health, School of Performing Arts Academy, School of Skills Trade) and uses “career major” terminology to enhance program appeal and clarity for families. EJ is a big fan of community college because of its affordability and the flexibility for students to explore various pathways before committing to a four-year program. Don’t miss what he shares about his own children who followed the two-year community college to four-year university path, resulting in significant cost savings. EJ reports that dual enrollment is a core focus, both in academic and CTE courses, making it possible for students to earn college credit prior to high school graduation. He urges district leaders to research local colleges’ offerings and build dual enrollment partnerships, noting that community colleges are generally eager to partner with high schools. EJ explains that by aligning curriculum with college offerings and collaborating with decision-makers, high schools can quickly expand dual enrollment opportunities for students. He emphasizes the value of work-based learning: students in allied health programs, for example, complete clinical rotations that help clarify which areas of the field they do (and do not) want to pursue. EJ sees the process of learning what careers students don’t want as equally valuable as confirming what they do want, minimizing costly missteps after high school. EJ believes that both credentials and lived experience are key—his students leave with “real” industry-valued credentials that pass scrutiny from industry partners. He and his district use parent engagement sessions—including events with community college partners—to educate families about the financial benefits, flexible transfer options, and overall value of CTE and dual enrollment. EJ shares that enrollment in his district has increased by 18% since adopting strategies like the exploratory major period and dual enrollment partnerships. He stresses the importance of both CTE and AP/academic rigor, ensuring that all students are challenged and graduate prepared for either college or a successful career. EJ’s “billboard” message: every student should graduate with a true understanding of the pathway they are choosing, so that they avoid spending unnecessary time and money finding their direction after high school.

    33min

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College & Career Readiness Radio with T.J. Vari A podcast about all things career and college readiness. Brought to you by MaiaLearning.