The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In the Digital Age

Christopher L Aversano
The Last Dinosaur - Maritime Shipping In the Digital Age

Maritime Digital Evolution with Chris Aversano Dive deep into the maritime world's digital transformation with Chris Aversano, a seasoned maritime professional with three decades of experience both on shore and at sea. Recognizing that the maritime sector has been one of the last to fully embrace the digital age, Chris delves into the pivotal changes now underway. Join Chris as he engages with the trailblazers, innovators, investors, and thought leaders who are steering the maritime industry into the digital future. Whether you're a maritime enthusiast, a tech aficionado, or someone curious about both realms, this podcast promises insightful discussions and a fresh perspective on the maritime digital frontier. Tune in and embark on a journey to explore the digital waves reshaping the maritime world.

  1. Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg

    HÁ 3 DIAS

    Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg

    Episode 100: The Maritime Podcasting Pioneer – Lena Gothberg Guest: Lena Gothberg, Host of The Shipping Podcast Why It Matters: This is The Big One—the 100th episode of The Last Dinosaur Podcast! And who better to join than Lena Gothberg, a trailblazer in maritime podcasting? For nearly a decade, Lena has been the voice behind The Shipping Podcast, making it the longest-running podcast dedicated to the maritime industry. This episode is not just about podcasting; it’s about how storytelling and digital media are reshaping maritime communications. Key Points: The Evolution of Maritime Podcasting: How Lena started The Shipping Podcast when podcasting in maritime wasn’t even a concept. "Shipping is storytelling." – Lena Gothberg The challenges of convincing industry professionals to participate in an unfamiliar medium. Longevity in Podcasting: Why so many podcasts don’t last past 10 episodes. "If you last more than three months, you're okay." – Lena Gothberg Lena’s personal journey reaching nearly a decade of continuous podcasting. Women’s Voices in Maritime: Lena’s commitment to featuring women in the maritime industry. "It’s not about excluding men, it’s about ensuring women have a voice too." – Lena Gothberg How representation has evolved over time. Digitalization & Social Media’s Role in Maritime: The power of podcasts and social media in breaking maritime’s traditional communication barriers. "We need to bring the invisible industry into the digital universe." – Lena Gothberg Why storytelling is key in an industry often seen as invisible to the public. The Future of Podcasting in Shipping: Video vs. audio—does every podcast need a video component? "Why should I let people watch me while I work?" – Lena Gothberg The impact of industry changes on independent maritime content creators. Engaging the Next Generation: Why maritime needs to embrace modern media to attract talent. "Students need to hear from real people, not just read textbooks." – Lena Gothberg The role of podcasts in educating newcomers and shaping industry narratives. Lessons from 10 Years of Podcasting: Key takeaways for those looking to start their own podcast in maritime or beyond. "Do it your way. If people want to listen, they will." – Lena Gothberg The importance of persistence and adaptability. Listen Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a five-star review, and share! Support the Podcast: If you enjoy The Last Dinosaur Podcast, consider supporting through Buy Me a Coffee. Your support keeps these stories alive! Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano

    37min
  2. Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla

    18 DE FEV.

    Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla

    Episode 99: Navigating the Future of Maritime Training with Capt. Pradeep Chawla Guest: Capt. Pradeep Chawla, Chairman of GlobalMET and Founder of MarinePALS Episode Overview: Capt. Chawla shares insights from his 50-year maritime career, transitioning from sea to leadership at Anglo Eastern, and now pioneering digital training at MarinePALS. We explore the evolution of maritime education, the role of technology, and the changing landscape of seafarer training. Key Points: The Shift to Digital Learning "Nobody likes reading anymore. Most learning now happens via YouTube, not textbooks." Microlearning, gamification, and VR are reshaping how seafarers acquire critical skills. Why VR and Gamification Matter First-time experiences, like entering a ship’s  forpeak tank, can be simulated to build confidence. "A senior master once crashed a Cape-size bulk carrier in a simulator, but after seven attempts, he got it right—he never forgot that lesson." Adapting to Alternative Fuels LNG, ammonia, and methanol are the future—but require specialized training. MarinePALS developed VR training for LNG bunkering, helping crew adapt before stepping on board. Technology and Training Evolution "A second mate’s passage planning once took 12 hours—now it’s automated in two." Digitalization is reshaping navigation and ship operations, requiring new skill sets. The Power of Social Media in Shipping Shipping has traditionally operated in the shadows, but platforms like YouTube and Instagram can help highlight the industry’s importance. "In my previous company, we went from 20,000 to 100,000 followers by sharing crew-generated content—seafarers love seeing their own work showcased." The Seafarer Shortage and Industry Future Despite concerns, Capt. Chawla is optimistic: "The sea still attracts the brave." To appeal to the next generation, highlight responsibility: "By 22, you’ll be in charge of a $400M asset. Where else does that happen?" Advice for the Next Generation "Forget the idea that maritime is an outdated industry—it's evolving fast, and there’s no better time to join." Training needs to reflect modern learning habits: short, engaging, and interactive. Learn More: Related episode: Episode 85: Wind-Assisted Propulsion with Cristina Aleixendri Muñoz MarinePALS website: marinepals.com Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week, coming in September 2025.

    42min

  3. 4 DE FEV.

    Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta

    Episode 98: Charting the Future of Liner Shipping with Roberto Giannetta Guest: Roberto Giannetta, Chairman, Hong Kong Liner Shipping Association Episode Overview: In this episode, we sit down with Roberto Giannetta, a seasoned expert with over 35 years of experience in the liner shipping industry and the chairman of the Hong Kong Liner Shipping Association. Roberto shares insights into the pivotal role liner shipping plays in global trade, the challenges of decarbonization, and the opportunities brought by digitalization. He discusses how standardization and collaboration across the industry are key to addressing these challenges, alongside the progress being made in adopting green fuels and modern technologies. This episode was brought to you in association with the Captains Table Challenge!  Key Points: Decarbonization in Liner Shipping: How the structured nature of liner shipping offers advantages in planning and adapting to decarbonization efforts. The challenges of green fuel adoption, including costs and global supply limitations. Roberto’s perspective on the future of propulsion systems, including modular nuclear reactors. The Role of Digitalization: The importance of standardizing systems and terminology across the industry to drive efficiency. Progress in digital bills of lading and other technologies aimed at reducing reliance on paper-based systems. Global Collaboration and Leadership: How organizations like the International Maritime Organization (IMO) are shaping the future of shipping regulations. The challenges of aligning stakeholders across jurisdictions to create unified standards. Asia’s Unique Role in Maritime Innovation: Insights into how automation is improving efficiency in Asia's terminals and its impact on job security. The role of China as a leader in green fuel production and its influence on global shipping. Roberto’s Career Journey: From IT to shipping, Roberto reflects on his fascinating path to becoming a key voice in the maritime industry. Learn More: For more on digital bills of lading, check out Episode 81 with Piotr Cichocki of Secro, where we explored the journey toward standardization and the impact of digitalization on global trade. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Artwork By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you've found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week https://lisw.com/coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration

    36min
  4. Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College

    28 DE JAN.

    Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College

    Episode 97: Maritime Leadership and Education in the 21st Century with Rear Admiral John Okon, President SUNY Maritime College Guest: Rear Admiral John Okon, President, SUNY Maritime College Episode Overview: In this episode, Christopher Aversano speaks with Rear Admiral John Okon, the newest president of SUNY Maritime College. They discuss how maritime education has evolved to meet the demands of an increasingly digital and interconnected world. Admiral Okon shares insights into his leadership journey, the critical importance of cybersecurity in maritime education, and the innovative ways SUNY Maritime is preparing for the next generation of maritime leaders. Key Points: Leadership at SUNY Maritime: Admiral Okon's journey from student to president and his vision for leading the college into its next chapter. “My first day in uniform was at Maritime, and my last day in uniform was at Maritime. This institution shaped my career and my life.” Critical Thinking and Character-Based Leadership: Why these two pillars are essential for the future of maritime professionals. “We are trying to train and educate good human beings. Leadership starts with one fundamental aspect—being a good human being.” The Role of Cybersecurity: Addressing the growing importance of cybersecurity in maritime education and industry practices. “Cybersecurity lives in everything we have—engine controls, bridges, logistics systems. We need to bake it into our education and training.” Collaborating Across Maritime Academies: How state maritime academies and Kings Point work together to strengthen the industry. “When the rubber meets the road, we work together. A rising tide floats all boats.” Social Media as a Tool for Outreach: Enhancing SUNY Maritime's brand and attracting students through dynamic online engagement. “We’ve raised our social media presence significantly, and the feedback is clear—students are finding us through these platforms.” Attracting Talent to the Industry: Strategies to bring more students into maritime careers and showcase the value of a maritime education. “Come to Maritime, work hard for four years, and benefit for the next 40.” Celebrating 150 Years: Reflecting on the rich history and enduring legacy of SUNY Maritime College during its sesquicentennial. “This is a 150-year-old family with deep roots across the world. When you join, you’re part of something much bigger.” Learn More: Explore our past episode with Captain Matthew Glass discussing the Houston Pilots and the challenges that he faces as a pilot in one of the busiest waterways in the world. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates, and consider sponsoring an episode. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week, coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration!

    33min
  5. Episode 96: Steering the Future: How the Propeller Club is Transforming Maritime Associations with Maria Conatser

    14 DE JAN.

    Episode 96: Steering the Future: How the Propeller Club is Transforming Maritime Associations with Maria Conatser

    Episode 96 Guest: Maria Conatser, President, International Propeller Club of the United States; Senior Financial Planning Analyst, Ingram Barge Company Episode Overview: Maria Conatser joins The Last Dinosaur to discuss the transformation needed for industry associations like the International Propeller Club to remain relevant in today’s digital age. She highlights the strategies to attract and retain members, leverage social media, and modernize offerings while reflecting on the organization’s rich history and ongoing contributions to the maritime industry. Key Points: The Propeller Club’s Legacy and Evolution: Founded in 1922, the International Propeller Club is a cornerstone of maritime networking. Maria shares its evolution from informal luncheons to a global network with over 80 ports worldwide. Adapting to the Digital Age: Associations must embrace technology to meet the expectations of younger members, including virtual events, interactive websites, and engaging social media campaigns. Transformative Leadership: Maria’s vision for revitalization includes expanding international chapters, strengthening government advocacy, and fostering collaboration with like-minded organizations. Impact of the Pandemic: COVID-19 accelerated the adoption of digital tools, enabling global connections through virtual meetings and webinars. This shift created opportunities to reach wider audiences. Engaging the Next Generation: To attract younger maritime professionals, the Propeller Club is diversifying its offerings, from social events to educational webinars, and addressing workforce development challenges. Workforce Development and Retention: Maria emphasizes the need for improving the industry's perception, providing connectivity and work-life balance for seafarers, and aligning with societal values to attract new talent. Strengthening International Relations: The Propeller Club’s intentional push for international growth includes new chapters in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, and more, signaling its commitment to a global maritime strategy. Leveraging Social Media: A robust digital presence is key to staying relevant. Maria shares the Propeller Club’s ongoing efforts to modernize its website and social media strategies. The Future of Maritime Advocacy: Addressing “sea blindness,” Maria calls for greater public awareness about maritime’s essential role and its environmental advantages in global trade. Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week, coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference!

    33min
  6. Episode 95:   Navigating the Houston Ship Channel - Challenges and Innovation with Captain Matthew Glass

    7 DE JAN.

    Episode 95:   Navigating the Houston Ship Channel - Challenges and Innovation with Captain Matthew Glass

    Episode 95:   Navigating the Houston Ship Channel - Challenges and Innovation with Captain Matthew Glass Guest: Captain Matthew Glass, Pilot and Second Officer on the Houston Pilot’s Executive Committee Episode Overview: In this episode of The Last Dinosaur – Maritime Shipping in the Digital Age, Chris Aversano welcomes Captain Matthew Glass, a seasoned pilot on the Houston Ship Channel. They dive into the evolving landscape of one of the busiest ports in the world, exploring topics like infrastructure upgrades, digitalization, social media, and the challenges posed by decarbonization and engine power limitations. Key Points & Quotes: Captain Glass’s Journey: "My dream from a young age was to be a pilot. Growing up near Galveston Bay, it was all I wanted to do." (02:00) Insight into his maritime career, starting at Texas Maritime Academy and evolving into a leadership role as a Houston pilot. Houston Ship Channel Upgrades: "We’re completing Project 11, a billion-dollar effort to widen the channel to 750 feet. This allows two-way NeoPanamax traffic and boosts efficiency." (03:58) Challenges of Decarbonization: "With these newer engines, power limitations can impact maneuverability. As pilots, we need power for control—not just speed." (08:38) Embracing Digitalization: "We’re almost a technology company. From dispatch systems to pilot navigation units, everything is standardized and data-driven." (13:30) Discussion on innovations like their in-house Pilot Dispatching System (PLS) and collaborations with the U.S. Coast Guard. Social Media for Awareness: "What’s boring to us as pilots is fascinating to others. Social media helps us share our work and educate the public about the port’s importance." (22:13) Workforce Development: "When families learn about maritime opportunities, they’re fascinated. Social media and local partnerships help us attract the next generation." (30:38) Balancing Career and Family: "Most nights, I’m reading Goodnight Farm to my kids. It’s a reminder that there’s more to life than emails and ship stats." (34:26) Learn More: Explore related discussions on the intersection of digitalization and maritime operations in Episode 87: Navigating the Future of Seafarers' Welfare and Maritime Challenges. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates. Your support truly makes a difference! Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week, coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration!

    34min
  7. Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 with Evan Efstathiou

    23/12/2024

    Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 with Evan Efstathiou

    Episode 94: Maritime Digitalization Year in Review 2024 Guest: Evangelos Efstathiou, Managing Director of SkySail Advisors Ltd and Chief Executive Officer of Burmester & Vogel Editor's Note: Please note that there were some minor audio inconsistencies on the host's side during this episode. We appreciate your understanding and hope you enjoy the discussion! Episode Overview: In this annual tradition, Christopher Aversano is joined by Evangelos Efstathiou for the third year in a row to review the year in maritime digitalization and tech. They discuss the biggest trends of 2024, including the evolution of AI in the maritime industry, private equity’s increasing influence, and the critical intersection of decarbonization and digitalization. Evangelos also shares updates on SkySail’s exciting partnership with AMA Capital and Burmester & Vogel’s game-changing advancements in AI for demurrage management. Key Points: AI’s Transformational Role: AI’s integration in maritime operations has moved beyond hype, with practical applications driving revenue growth and operational efficiency. Burmester & Vogel’s AI solutions now account for 25% of its revenue, highlighting the technology’s real-world impact. Regulatory Push Toward Decarbonization: 2024 saw an increased focus on decarbonization initiatives such as FuelEU, with digital tools playing a pivotal role in tracking and optimizing emissions. Private Equity and Platform Consolidation: Evangelos highlights Kpler’s acquisition of Spire Maritime and MarineTraffic as an example of the ongoing trend of private equity-backed consolidation in maritime tech. SkySail’s Partnership with AMA Capital: The collaboration combines SkySail’s maritime tech expertise with AMA Capital’s proven investment banking capabilities, creating a new suite of services for maritime tech investments. The "Real AI" at Burmester & Vogel: After three years of development, Burmester & Vogel’s AI tools for demurrage management are redefining the workflow, automating processes, and significantly reducing human labor. Challenges in AI Adoption: While enthusiasm for AI is high, customers are navigating the noise created by vendors offering AI solutions without clear value. Evangelos draws parallels with the blockchain buzz five years ago. Consolidation in Maritime Efficiency Solutions: A bold prediction for 2025 suggests significant mergers between software and hardware players, offering holistic efficiency services from hull coatings to weather routing. Interest Rates and VC Funding: Rising interest rates have forced startups to focus on self-sustaining economics, challenging maritime tech ventures to prove product-market fit in a high-CAC environment. Special Mention: Christopher Aversano’s podcast is proud to be a media sponsor of London International Shipping Week, coming in September 2025. Stay tuned for more updates on this exciting collaboration! Learn More: Check out Episode 89: Seafarers, Decarbonization, and Diversity at Sea with Ralph Juhl, EVP, Technical at Hafnia Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: If you’ve found value in this episode, please rate us 5-stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support truly makes a difference!

    33min
  8. Episode 93: Navigating Ports and Innovation with Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director at Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure

    03/12/2024

    Episode 93: Navigating Ports and Innovation with Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director at Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure

    Episode 93: Navigating Ports and Innovation with Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director at Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure Guest: Tommy Mikkelsen, Managing Director, Navigation and Piloting Division, Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure Episode Overview: In this episode, Chris Aversano speaks with Tommy Mikkelsen about Trelleborg Marine and Infrastructure’s innovative contributions to port navigation and operational efficiency. With over 100 years of expertise, Trelleborg is at the forefront of advancing safety, sustainability, and digitalization in critical marine and port operations. Tommy shares insights from his 30-year career, the challenges of change management, and how Trelleborg is driving decarbonization and efficiency in ports worldwide. Key Points: Trelleborg’s Niche in Marine Infrastructure: Focused on the "last mile" of maritime operations, including navigation and piloting, fender systems, and mooring solutions. Collaborations with the Panama Canal Authority: Implementing high-accuracy navigation systems to enhance efficiency and safety for ships transiting the canal. Adopting Technology for Port Operations: Leveraging predictive modeling and real-time data to optimize ship movements, reduce fuel consumption, and decrease dredging requirements. Change Management Challenges: Addressing resistance from pilots and crews to new technology by emphasizing training and intuitive design. Decarbonization Through Digitalization: Innovations such as real-time under-keel clearance monitoring and optimized tug usage to reduce emissions and improve cargo handling. Advancing Maritime Digitalization: Enhancing data-sharing capabilities to overcome proprietary barriers and ensure a holistic approach to monitoring and optimization. Encouraging Careers in Maritime: The maritime industry offers hands-on innovation opportunities for engineers and developers, making a tangible impact in a rapidly evolving field. Personal Insight: Tommy shares his love for sci-fi literature, recommending The Expanse series by James S.A. Corey for a dose of inspiration. Learn More: Check out Episode 72 with David Yeo, CEO of Innovez One talks about port digitization. Tune in Now: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! Watch the episode on YouTube. Music by: Peg and The Rejected 'King of SKA' Art Work By: GA Design Produced by: Chris Aversano Support Our Podcast: Enjoyed this episode? Rate us 5 stars and follow. Subscribe to our newsletter for more updates. Your support makes a difference!

    32min
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Maritime Digital Evolution with Chris Aversano Dive deep into the maritime world's digital transformation with Chris Aversano, a seasoned maritime professional with three decades of experience both on shore and at sea. Recognizing that the maritime sector has been one of the last to fully embrace the digital age, Chris delves into the pivotal changes now underway. Join Chris as he engages with the trailblazers, innovators, investors, and thought leaders who are steering the maritime industry into the digital future. Whether you're a maritime enthusiast, a tech aficionado, or someone curious about both realms, this podcast promises insightful discussions and a fresh perspective on the maritime digital frontier. Tune in and embark on a journey to explore the digital waves reshaping the maritime world.

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