Experts of Experience

If your customers aren’t happy, they will let you and the whole world know. Loudly. Ever wonder how companies deliver a consistent experience that meets - and exceeds - their customer’s expectations? On this show, we’ll dive deep into the world of customer experience and share how businesses are navigating high expectations and leveraging emerging technology like AI and GPT to create the next great experience for their customers. Hosted by Lacey Peace and featuring some of the smartest business minds of the day, Experts of Experience is your go-to resource for ideas, innovation, and inspiration to level up your CX. This podcast is presented by Salesforce Customer Success.

  1. The Model That Creates Lifelong Customers (and Revenue)

    6D AGO

    The Model That Creates Lifelong Customers (and Revenue)

    How do brands create customers who stay for years or even decades?   In this episode, we break down the model behind lifelong loyalty, emotional connection, and trust-based customer experience - the kind that drives repeat revenue, referrals, and real brand love.   Our guest is John Boccuzzi, Jr., CX leader, speaker, author of The Art of Seducing Your Customers, and President of ISG Research. With 30+ years studying how companies build trust and deliver memorable customer experiences, John shares the frameworks and stories that prove: CX is not a cost center — it’s a growth engine.   You’ll learn: The #1 factor that determines whether customers return Why customer experience is more emotional than operational The “Ruth Story” - how one pair of glasses changed John’s entire view on CX How to scale empathy, trust, and personalization across big organizations What brands get wrong when implementing AI in customer experience The future of CX and what will matter most in the next 12 months   If you lead customer experience, marketing, service, brand, or product, this conversation will reshape how you think about delivering value. Watch Next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNCaTYkXCE&t=1864s   Key Moments: 0:00 Meet John Boccuzzi, Jr. 3:20 What Customer Experience Really Is 5:20 The “Ruth Story”: Creating Emotional Loyalty 10:10 Why Having a Point of View Builds Trust 15:15 Training Teams to Deliver Great CX 18:55 Scaling Emotional Customer Experiences 23:30 How AI Fits Into Customer Experience 29:55 The Power of First Impressions 33:25 How Brands Stay Relevant Today 37:15 Make the Customer Journey Simple 42:55 The Future of Personalization 49:15 Common Misconceptions About CX 50:27 A Trend to Bet On (That Isn’t AI) – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    55 min
  2. From Google to GPT: How Search Actually Works in 2025

    OCT 22

    From Google to GPT: How Search Actually Works in 2025

    Discoverability isn’t “just SEO” anymore. It’s the entire customer journey.     VML’s Chief Discoverability Officer, Heather Physioc, joins host Lacey Peace to unpack how AI search, LLM overviews, social media channels, and agentic assistants are rewriting how customers find, trust, and choose brands.   We cover: the rise of zero-click results and GEO (generative engine optimization), why trust + authority beat content volume, connecting your content supply chain, and where to invest next. Practical, human-centered—and way beyond keyword stuffing.   Key Moments 00:00 Meet Heather Physioc, VML’s Chief Discoverability Officer 7:33 What Is a Chief Discoverability Officer? 10:07 Discoverability’s Role in the Modern Customer Journey 13:00 The Biggest Gaps in Marketing and CX Today 17:00 From 10 Blue Links to AI Overviews: The Timeline of Discoverability 22:00 How AI Overviews Are Changing Search Behavior 23:45 Three Shifts Defining the AI Search Revolution 27:45 Is This the Death of the Website? 28:40 Can We Track What People Search on LLMs? 30:53 Does SEO Still Matter in an AI-First World? 33:17 What Platforms Actually Matter Most Right Now 37:00 Building Trust and Authority in the Age of AI Content 40:30 The Content Supply Chain: Why Brands Struggle to Connect the Dots 43:33 The New Metrics That Actually Matter for Discoverability 45:26 Ad Buying and Sponsored Content in LLM Search 48:05 The Next Challenges Every Brand Should Prepare For 50:00 AI Assistants and the Rise of the AI Buyer 54:25 The One Fundamental Truth About Human Search Behavior – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    53 min
  3. Why Great Leaders Communicate Like Creators

    OCT 8

    Why Great Leaders Communicate Like Creators

    Internal communication is broken. Most CX and leadership teams rely on outdated methods — long slide decks, endless trainings, and metrics that don’t drive action.   In this episode, Ben Phillips, founder of CX Alive!, explains how to transform the way your business communicates.   Drawing on two decades in customer experience and leadership, Ben breaks down why short-form, authentic content — like internal vodcasts and micro-videos — builds clarity, connection, and alignment faster than PowerPoints or all-hands meetings ever could.   We cover: ✅ How to make your CX strategy relatable and actionable ✅ The biggest communication gap between leadership and frontline teams ✅ How to communicate effectively with Gen Z employees ✅ Why podcasts and vodcasts are the future of internal engagement ✅ Why NPS and CSAT are outdated metrics — and what to measure instead   If you’re looking to improve employee engagement, CX performance, or team alignment, this conversation will change how you think about communication, storytelling, and measurement inside your organization.   #InternalCommunication #CXLeadership #CustomerExperience #EmployeeEngagement #CXStrategy #BusinessCommunication #LeadershipDevelopment #GenZAtWork #Vodcasting #StorytellingAtWork   Connect with Ben at: Cx-alive.comBen Phillips LinkedIn  Key Moments:   0:00 Who is Ben Phillips and what is CX Alive! 4:00 How to communicate effectively with Gen Z employees 9:44 How business communication is changing 12:50 How to tell better stories 22:00 Why you only have 8 seconds to capture attention 24:00 Why podcasts and vodcasts work so well for businesses 31:00 Is NPS still relevant in 2025? 34:44 What are the best metrics to track in CX? 37:59 Are customer surveys still relevant? 41:11 AI in CX: what’s hype vs. what’s real 48:24 How to build a team that understands the “why” 51:28 Three words that separate good content from great – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    52 min
  4. How A 2-Week AI Agent Launch Enabled 67% Productivity Gains

    SEP 24

    How A 2-Week AI Agent Launch Enabled 67% Productivity Gains

    Description/Shownotes What if your company could launch its first AI agent in just two weeks?   That’s exactly what Mollie Bodensteiner, SVP of Operations at Engine, accomplished — and the results are game-changing: $2M in projected annual savings, a 67% lift in sales rep productivity, and CSAT scores above 90%.   Mollie shares the real story of implementing AI at scale, why ruthless prioritization matters, how to avoid the “Frankenstack” trap, and why AI should be seen as a growth enabler, not a cost-cutting exercise.   Whether you’re leading a small team or scaling globally, Mollie’s practical playbook will help you cut through the noise, drive adoption, and build AI solutions that stick. Tune in to hear how Engine’s agile approach turned imagination into execution—and why trust, people, and culture are still the ultimate differentiators.   Key Moments:   00:00 AI Philosophy & Common Challenges 02:44 Ruthless Prioritization and AI Rollout 08:04 Mollie Bodensteiner’s Background and Engine's AI Journey 14:40 AI Implementation and Customer Experience Impact 28:07 AI Agents in Sales and Coaching 34:48 AI in Professional Training and Education 38:06 Human-AI Collaboration and Adoption Challenges 48:34 Ensuring AI Quality and Risk Management 51:45 Choosing and Evaluating AI Tools 01:00:54 Underhyped AI Applications 01:03:00 Lightning Round   – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    1h 9m
  5. Salesforce Solved The SEO Issue

    SEP 10

    Salesforce Solved The SEO Issue

    AI isn’t just transforming marketing — it’s reshaping the entire customer experience. In this special crossover episode, Experts of Experience features a conversation from our sister podcast Marketing Trends, hosted by Stephanie Postles. Stephanie sits down with Amber Armstrong, CMO of Salesforce Applications, to explore how AI and LLMs are changing discoverability, customer journeys, and the future of CX. Amber shares how her team is rethinking SEO for generative search, converting 40% of LLM traffic into leads, and rolling out AI agents at scale through Salesforce’s Agentforce. If you want to understand how AI is reshaping customer expectations and how leading CMOs are adapting, this episode offers a practical playbook for the generative era.   Key Moments:   00:00 How AI and LLMs Are Reshaping the Marketing Funnel 03:54 Amber Armstrong’s Journey from IBM Intern to CMO at Salesforce 06:35 The Expanding Role of AI in Modern Marketing Teams 08:52 Inside Salesforce’s Guild System: How Amber Aligns Teams Across Four Clouds 17:31 Real AI Use Cases from Amber Armstrong’s Marketing Team at Salesforce 26:40 Amber Armstrong’s Playbook for Future-Proofing SEO in the Age of LLMs 30:55 How Salesforce’s Website Converts 40% of LLM Traffic into Leads 35:58 Building AI Agents at Scale: Lessons from Salesforce’s Agent Force Rollout 37:53 The Ongoing Role of Third-Party Validation in Buyer Decision-Making 39:49 Amber Armstrong on Adapting Marketing Metrics for an AI-First Future 40:40 How Salesforce Aligns Content Strategy Across Business Units 44:56 Amber Armstrong’s Advice for Getting Teams Comfortable with AI Tools 51:24 Salesforce’s Next Big Moves: Account-Based Marketing and Cross-Cloud Growth     – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    57 min
  6. The Trick to Aligning Tech, People & Process for Operational Success

    AUG 27

    The Trick to Aligning Tech, People & Process for Operational Success

    What happens when a fast-growing company completely rethinks how it delivers customer experience — from the inside out? Lacey Peace sits down with Phil Parbury, Service Manager at TOMRA Collection Australia, to unpack one of the most seamless and high-impact digital transformations we’ve seen in CX ops. Phil takes us behind the scenes of a tech overhaul that reduced dozens of disconnected systems to one integrated solution, boosted technician response time by 26%, and achieved a first-time fix rate of over 99% — all while keeping humans at the center of an AI-assisted workforce. Whether you're leading a digital transformation, scaling CX operations, or just nerding out over smart logistics, this episode is packed with actionable insights — and yes, it features a very charming Aussie accent. 🇦🇺 👉 Tune in to hear how Phil’s team is future-proofing CX from the inside out. Key Moments: 00:00 - The Power of Predictive AI in Customer Experience 01:25 - What Are Reverse Vending Machines? 05:23 - Phil’s Engineering Background & Career Path 07:38 - Scaling Pains: Early Operational Challenges at TOMRA 15:17 - Streamlining Tech: From 26 Tools to One Unified System 21:39 - How AI Optimizes Field Technician Dispatching 23:56 - Real-Time Monitoring & Keeping Machines Online 25:20 - Performance Metrics: 26% Faster Response, 99% First-Time Fix 28:11 - What’s Next: Planning for Predictive Maintenance 32:01 - Personalization, AI Agents & Changing Customer Expectations 35:45 - Training Humans to Work with AI: Empowering Support Teams 43:02 - Reddit Question: What Tools Actually Improve CX? – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    49 min
  7. Behind the Scenes of L'Oréal’s Real-Time Marketing Machine

    AUG 13

    Behind the Scenes of L'Oréal’s Real-Time Marketing Machine

    How does a 115-year-old beauty giant keep up with TikTok trends, viral moments, and AI-powered hair tech? Chief Digital & Marketing Officer Darienne Kennedy pulls back the curtain on how L’Oréal’s Professional Products Division moves at the speed of culture. From signing pop icon Sabrina Carpenter and her stylist, to harnessing AI scalp diagnostics, to deciding which viral moments are worth jumping into—Darienne shares the brand storytelling playbook that keeps nine iconic haircare brands distinct, relevant, and trusted. We also dive into the art of B2B loyalty, how L’Oréal supports salon professionals beyond just products, and why technology should enhance — not replace — the deeply human connection between stylist and client. Whether you’re in marketing, beauty, or just obsessed with a great brand story, you’ll come away with insights on blending heritage with innovation. Watch the full interview to hear how L’Oréal balances risk-taking with brand integrity, the surprising celebrity moment that went viral, and the next big beauty frontier starting at the scalp.   Key Moments: 00:00 Inside L’Oreal’s Celebrity Partnerships and Cultural Moments 04:25 Darienne Kennedy: 25 Years Growing with L’Oreal 11:29 How L’Oreal Balances B2B and B2C Strategies 15:58 Crafting Distinct Stories for Nine Global Haircare Brands 22:40 L’Oreal’s Sustainability Push: Refills and Green Innovation 28:16 Moving at the Speed of Culture in Beauty Marketing 31:10 How L’Oreal Measures Marketing Impact 34:07 Education and Training as Brand Loyalty Drivers 41:39 AI and Smart Tools Shaping the Future of Haircare 50:46 The Next Big Trends in Hair, Health & Wellness 51:38 Lightning Round: Quick Insights from Darienne Kennedy – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    57 min
  8. How to Lead Brands That Translate Globally

    JUL 30

    How to Lead Brands That Translate Globally

    What does it take to build a brand that resonates across cultures… not just across markets?     In this special dual-guest episode, Lacey Peace sits down with Nataly Kelly, Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi, and Katherine Melchior Ray, UC Berkeley lecturer and former executive at brands like Nike, Hyatt, and Louis Vuitton. Together, they co-authored the new book Brand Global, Adapt Local: How to Build Brand Value Across Cultures and they’re here to share the lessons learned from decades of global brand-building.   Nataly and Katherine dive deep into why cultural intelligence is the most under-leveraged skill in modern CX, why brands that ignore cultural context are building in globalization debt, and how something as simple as a melon can repair — or ruin — customer trust. They explain the importance of shared values, the risks of applying the same CX metrics globally (spoiler: NPS doesn’t mean the same thing in every country), and how AI is both accelerating and complicating cross-cultural brand connection.   From real stories about Kit Kat’s flavor strategy in Japan to awkward CX blunders in global grocery stores, this episode is packed with tangible takeaways and perspective shifts for any business looking to scale with humanity and intention.   Get your copy of Brand Global, Adapt Local: How to Build Brand Value Across Cultures now!     https://www.amazon.com/Brand-Global-Adapt-Local-Cultures/dp/139861971X   Key Moments:     00:00 Do Customer Service Expectations Differ Across Cultures? 06:03 Why Cultural Intelligence Is Crucial for Global Business 07:04 Co-Authors’ Nataly Kelly & Katherine Melchior Ray’s Meet cute   15:18 Real-Life Cultural Missteps and Surprising Service Norms 24:13 Can AI Replace Cultural Insight? Why Human Context Still Matters 34:38 What’s at Stake When You Ignore Cultural Differences 38:23 Globalization Strategy: Why Flexibility Beats Uniformity 39:09 How Cultural Agility Builds Better Customer Experiences 40:34 Style Switching & Cultural Intelligence in Leadership 42:18 Kit Kat’s Local Flavors & HubSpot’s Global CX 51:01 How Tech Adoption Varies by Country (And Why It Matters) 55:12 Daily Habits That Boost Strategic Thinking & Creativity 01:00:24 How AI Is Changing Global Marketing and Customer Experience 01:15:46 Final Leadership Lessons on Trust, Culture & Global Growth – Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce   Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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If your customers aren’t happy, they will let you and the whole world know. Loudly. Ever wonder how companies deliver a consistent experience that meets - and exceeds - their customer’s expectations? On this show, we’ll dive deep into the world of customer experience and share how businesses are navigating high expectations and leveraging emerging technology like AI and GPT to create the next great experience for their customers. Hosted by Lacey Peace and featuring some of the smartest business minds of the day, Experts of Experience is your go-to resource for ideas, innovation, and inspiration to level up your CX. This podcast is presented by Salesforce Customer Success.

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