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Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and lives they love.

The Former Lawyer Podcast Sarah Cottrell

    • Business
    • 4.8 • 72 Ratings

Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and lives they love.

    How Law Firms Avoid All Responsibility for Toxic Environments with Kelcey Baker

    How Law Firms Avoid All Responsibility for Toxic Environments with Kelcey Baker

    Today’s podcast episode features a returning guest, Kelcey Baker, talking to Sarah. There is a content warning because they are discussing a recent story about a junior Biglaw partner in the UK passing away during an acute mental health episode.
    They discuss mental health issues and suicide. The story is important because it highlights some of the issues seen within the legal profession and helps others feel seen, so let’s dive in.
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/230
     

    • 45 min
    Nothing is Worth Sacrificing Yourself - A Reminder for All Lawyers

    Nothing is Worth Sacrificing Yourself - A Reminder for All Lawyers

    Today’s podcast episode is an important reminder every lawyer needs to hear.
    Sarah reminds listeners that nothing about your job is as important as you and your emotional, mental, and physical health. For lawyers, it’s easy to feel their value as human beings is basically in job performance. 
    It’s tough for lawyers to feel like they exist outside the lawyer bubble. Working a lot and being chronically sleep-deprived keeps your nervous system in a state that makes it hard to maintain perspective.
    The systems are designed to cause you to lose perspective, especially in large firms. The system benefits when you are all caught up in your own performance for the organization.
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/229
     

    • 6 min
    Why Entertainment Law Isn't the Escape You Might Think with Jordan Nahmias

    Why Entertainment Law Isn't the Escape You Might Think with Jordan Nahmias

    Sarah sees many clients who change careers within the law, like becoming in-house lawyers, but at the end of the day, they are still lawyers. When people think that switching to entertainment law will be a fun and exciting change, it’s important to step back and ask some more questions.
    Today’s podcast episode features a conversation with Jordan Nahmias. Jordan used to practice law as an entertainment lawyer and is now a coach and strategist in Toronto, Canada. He talks about his experience and his path out of law. Many people consider exploring this area when thinking about leaving the law.
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/228
     

    • 45 min
    How to Decide if Now is the Right Time to Leave Law

    How to Decide if Now is the Right Time to Leave Law

    In today’s podcast episode, Sarah addresses a question that many people start asking themselves when the economy is unstable: Is now really the right time to consider leaving the law?
    Layoffs and challenging circumstances can add an added layer of stress and concern when it comes to changing industries and leaving your job. Sarah shares some thoughts and advice about these concerns and questions. 
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/227
     

    • 10 min
    Separating Your Identity From Your Legal Career

    Separating Your Identity From Your Legal Career

    In today’s podcast episode, Sarah chats with one of her one-on-one clients, Ann Marie Cowdrey.
    She has had a lot of experience working for regional and international law firms throughout her career. She hit a rough patch and thought it was time for a chance, so she started working with Sarah.
    Today, she’s sharing her experience in law and how she flipped things around.
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/226
     

    • 56 min
    Understanding Burnout Versus Depression In Lawyers And How To Get Support

    Understanding Burnout Versus Depression In Lawyers And How To Get Support

    Many lawyers find themselves asking, “Am I depressed, or am I burnt out?” This comes up when they are thinking about leaving the law, and it’s not a new topic on the podcast. In the episode where Sarah spoke to Ilona Salmons, they did a deep dive into burnout and what it is. Mental health is a common topic brought up in the Former Lawyer community, and many lawyers deal with misery by intellectualizing things. Today, Sarah is revisiting this topic and sharing a few important thoughts.
    Sarah often talks about therapy on the podcast. It is extremely helpful if you feel burned out or depressed. Engage a qualified mental health therapist to work with. They can help you evaluate what’s going on in your mind in your life with some objectivity and clinical expertise. 
    See show notes at formerlawyer.com/225
     

    • 8 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
72 Ratings

72 Ratings

TheStaceyHarris ,

A must for anyone even thinking about thinking about leaving the law

If you’re feeling the push to leave the law Sarah shares incredible and actionable insights + hear from former lawyers about their experiences leaving the law.

Meggers1233 ,

Thank You

Thank you for this podcast. Relatable and well thought out. Feels great that someone gets it!

Elizabeth in VA ,

Great podcast!

So happy to have found this podcast.

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