Follow Your Curiosity: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Creativity.

Nancy Norbeck, Creativity Coach for Burned-Out Perfectionists
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Follow Your Curiosity is a creativity podcast for ordinary people who want to explore extraordinary creativity and do their creative work more easily. I’m Nancy Norbeck, a Master Creativity Coach, and I host this show to help you move creativity from a "luxury" to a necessity in your life. Whether you are an exhausted perfectionist looking to reclaim your spark or a creator who wants to move past procrastination, I provide a sanctuary for messy, joyful creativity for people who long to feel human again. Every other week, I share in-depth, unscripted interviews with people from all backgrounds about their creative lives. We explore how they got started, what shaped them, and how they found their way into their work. In the alternating weeks, I share Creative Pep Talk episodes featuring ideas, tools, and reflections designed to help you quiet your inner critic and take the smallest, easiest step back to your own aliveness. Following my own curiosity often leads me into unexpected territory—including conversations connected to Doctor Who and the people who bring those stories to life, both in front of and behind the scenes. Every episode stands on its own, so I invite you to start wherever your curiosity takes you. If you’re ready to practice this way of being in a community, I invite you to join me for a free Creativity Circle. Join the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle: https://fyc.quest/Circle

  1. 21M AGO

    Nicola Bryant: Doctor Who, Hypnosis, and the Art of Trusting Your Gut

    What happens when the role you play on screen starts to close doors in your real life?   My guest this week is actress Nicola Bryant, famously known as the American companion, Peri, on Doctor Who. In a story that sounds like a movie itself, Nicola shares how she pretended to be American for three years—both on and off-set—and how that choice affected her career for decades.   We explore her creative childhood, her transition from ballet to theater, and her deep interest in the power of hypnosis to help others heal and grow. This is a conversation about creativity, identity, and the courage it takes to finally trust your own gut.   If you’re ready to stop performing and start feeling human again, I invite you to join me for a free Creativity Circle—the next one is this coming Saturday, April 25.   Episode breakdown:   0:00 Intro and childhood creativity 4:15 The art of creative cooking 8:30 Perception and seeing the world differently 13:00 From ballet school dreams to acting 17:45 The "act 18" audition story 22:15 Realizing the power of acting choices 27:30 Embodying roles and character work 32:00 The secret Doctor Who audition 37:15 Living a double life as American 42:30 Navigating career typecasting and snobbery 47:45 Getting discovered in the West End 52:15 Returning to Peri on audio 56:30 The science and art of hypnosis 1:00:00 Trusting your gut and the mind body connection Want more? Here are handy playlists with all my previous interviews with guests in theatre and  Doctor Who. Check out the full show notes at fycuriosity.com, and join us for the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle. Please leave a review for this episode—it’s really easy and will only take a minute, and it really helps me reach new listeners. Thanks! If you enjoyed our conversation, I hope you’ll share it with a friend.

    1h 5m

  2. APR 15

    CPT #126: Tom Hanks and the Art of Not Forcing Your Creativity

    If you're currently fighting with a project that refuses to behave, you might be trying to force an outcome that wasn't meant to be.   In this episode, I share a surprising lesson from Tom Hanks’ performance in Forrest Gump. We often think that being a "pro" means forcing our vision into reality, but sometimes the most professional thing you can do is learn to follow your project’s lead instead.   Whether you're a writer, an artist, or just someone trying to get through a messy creative week, this pep talk is a permission slip to stop the "force" and start the "flow."   Want more tips? Check out this playlist with all my previous Creative Pep Talks! Every episode stands on its own.   If you're ready to stop performing and start feeling human again, I invite you to join me for a free Creativity Circle. (Don't forget to confirm you subscription!) We meet next on April 25.

    5 min

  3. APR 8

    Why “Why” is a Dangerous Question with Danielle Marshall (Curiosity vs. Judgment)

    If you’ve ever felt frustrated, angry, or deeply misunderstood during a conversation, the culprit might be a single word you didn’t know was dangerous.   In this episode, I’m talking with equity strategist Danielle Marshall about the power of curiosity to bridge divides and change culture. Danielle shares why asking "What else might be true?" is her most powerful tool for connection and why she decided to learn a brand new skill every year once she turned 40.   Whether you're trying to navigate a difficult workplace culture or just want to have better conversations with your kids, this episode is a permission slip to put down the judgment and pick up curiosity instead.   If you're ready to stop performing and start feeling human again, I invite you to join me for our free Creativity Circle.   Episode breakdown:   00:00 Introduction 04:02 Embracing curiosity, asking questions, and building strong connections. 08:14 Making networking meaningful by asking genuine, human-centered questions. 12:20 Being curious instead of judgmental leads to better conversations. 16:13 Dangers of relying solely on AI for answers. 20:14 Approaching organizational culture change through curiosity and pain points. 24:31 Challenges in shifting to a true feedback culture. 28:23 Coaching empowers ownership by guiding with questions, not answers. 32:19 Learning to handle feedback thoughtfully and with discernment. 36:18 Curiosity is like a muscle, build it intentionally over time. 40:09 Start with simple curiosity, apply process to bigger challenges. 44:09 Questions can reveal disconnects between leadership and frontline experience. You can get your copy of Danielle's Curiosity Playbook here.   Want more? Here's a handy playlist with all my previous interviews with guests in writing. Check out the full show notes at fycuriosity.com, and join us for the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle. Please leave a review for this episode—it’s really easy and will only take a minute, and it really helps me reach new listeners. Thanks! If you enjoyed our conversation, I hope you’ll share it with a friend.

    57 min

  4. APR 1

    CPT #125: A Permission Slip for Perfectionists: Why I’m Letting Go (Overcoming Burnout)

    If you’ve been feeling like you’re clawing your way up a cement wall by your fingernails just to get through your "to-do" list, this conversation is for you.   I recently realized I was my own worst client. In this Creative Pep Talk, I’m sharing the three-word message I saw on the back of a truck that stopped me in my tracks—and how it helped me save my creative spark.   If you are a perfectionist struggling with burnout or the pressure to over-function, this episode is a "permission slip" to listen to what your own resistance is trying to tell you.   Want more tips? Check out this playlist with all my previous Creative Pep Talks! Every episode stands on its own.   If you're ready to stop pushing and start feeling human again, I invite you to join me for a free Creativity Circle.

    8 min

  5. MAR 25

    TV Comedy vs. Novel Writing: Leslie Rasmussen on Finding Your Voice in the "Wild West" of Fiction

    Have you ever felt like you need a "permission slip" to try a different creative path, even when you’re already "successful" in another? In this episode, I’m talking with award-winning screenwriter Leslie Rasmussen, who spent years in the high-pressure world of comedy writing for iconic television shows like Roseanne, The Drew Carey Show, and Sweet Valley High before pivoting to her true passion: writing novels. If you are an exhausted perfectionist who feels stuck in a specific professional lane or fears that your creative spark has a deadline, Leslie’s journey from the TV writer's room to the "Wild West" of fiction will show you how to reclaim your own narrative. Most creative advice tells you to pick a lane and stay there or to follow a rigid corporate productivity system. But on this podcast, we believe in messy, joyful creativity for people who are tired of the pressure to perform. We focus on the life force of your work—not just the output.   Episode breakdown: 0:00 Transitioning from TV scripts to fiction 4:15 Growing up creative in Los Angeles 8:30 Breaking into Hollywood as an assistant 12:45 Challenges for women in comedy writing 17:20 The role of mentorship and networking 21:50 Working on ALF and Carol and Company 26:10 How actors help writers find their voice 31:45 The difference between sitcoms and animation 36:30 Outlining vs writing by the seat of your pants 41:15 Working with developmental editors 46:50 The reality of the TV writers room at 2 AM 51:20 From a nutrition business back to storytelling 56:45 The vulnerability of professional book reviews 59:10 Writing about family secrets and sisters 1:00:58 Final advice and closing thoughts   Want more? Here's a handy playlist with all my previous interviews with guests in writing. Check out the full show notes at fycuriosity.com, and join us for the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle. Please leave a review for this episode—it’s really easy and will only take a minute, and it really helps me reach new listeners. Thanks! If you enjoyed our conversation, I hope you’ll share it with a friend.

    1h 1m

  6. MAR 18

    CPT #124: Joy is the Antidote to Burnout

    In this creative pep talk, I'm sharing a personal confession: I realized I was in the middle of nearly burning myself out because I forgot to let myself have enough fun. We live in a culture that wants us to prioritize working all the time and forget that joy is a necessity, not a luxury. I’m sharing the $0 Joy Gift—the tiny, simple things like a piece of classical music or a laugh over $10 aluminum foil—that can save your soul when you feel your creative spark is being drained dry. Most burnout advice tells you to "just crush it" or optimize your schedule. But on this channel, we believe in messy, joyful creativity for people who are tired of the pressure to perform. My Promise to You: 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’ll never tell you that you have to "earn" your joy through high performance. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I won’t ask you to ignore your need for play to fit a rigid corporate system. 😁 I will never treat your need for a creative sanctuary as a failure of discipline. What we’re exploring in this episode: ✨ The Irony of Burnout: Why it’s so easy to give advice and so hard to remember to take it. 🎶 The $0 Joy Gift: How tiny things—like a piece of music or a laugh over $10 aluminum foil—can save your soul. 🧠 The Aptitude Trap: Why being "analytical" can sometimes lead you down a rabbit hole of exhaustion. 💖 The "Importance" Reframe: A reminder that your creativity matters because you matter. Sound good? If this resonates, subscribe to join our rebellion against the "shoulds" and the pressure to perform. And if you want a safe space to explore this way of being with others, the door to our next free Creativity Circle is open. (Don't forget to confirm your subscription!) We meet again on March 21. Want more tips? Check out this playlist with all my previous Creative Pep Talks!

    7 min

  7. MAR 11

    Leveling Up Your Passion Projects with Paul Pape

    Paul Pape is a creative problem navigator, TEDx speaker, and author known as “Santa for Nerds.” Over the past 20 years, he has built a reputation as the specialty artist companies like Disney, Universal, and Nickelodeon call when they need something that doesn’t exist or their internal teams can’t build. Working from his Nebraska studio, Paul creates custom collectibles, props, and prototypes with tight deadlines and exacting standards. Paul is the creator of Gamify Business and author of The Creative Player’s Handbook to Business, which translates intimidating business concepts into gaming language that creative minds actually understand. Through his books, workshops, and coaching, he helps entrepreneurs build sustainable businesses without sacrificing their creative souls, proving that the “starving artist” stereotype is outdated and unnecessary. Paul first appeared on Follow Your Curiosity in September 2024, and I invited him to come back to tell us about his new Gamify Business program. Paul talks with me about how he recognized the need for a more creative metaphor for entrepreneurship; the danger of losing touch with your passion as your creative business grows; how the focus on what’s NOT possible, plus the constant need to ask permission—even as a adults—can get in our way, and a whole lot more. If you’ve ever been intimidated by the idea of starting a business, especially as a creative, this episode is for you.   Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction. 04:10 Using Dungeons and Dragons to explain creative business roles. 08:18 Leveling up business skills with gaming metaphors. 12:00 Business isn’t selling out; creatives deserve a livable wage. 16:05 Building the book through stories and personal experience. 20:13 Learning entrepreneurship by adapting methods to suit yourself. 24:10 Gatekeeping of business concepts and simplifying with new language. 28:47 Kids embrace entrepreneurship because they haven’t been told no. 32:27 Making a fool of yourself helps growth and confidence. 37:08 Confidence from passion attracts opportunities and like-minded people. 41:57 The tipping point: when passion becomes a draining job. 46:53 Failing is natural; our schooling overemphasizes perfection. 51:25 Coaching, permission, and feeling proud support creative entrepreneurship. 56:29 Rediscovering fun and permission helps creativity thrive.   Want more? Here's a handy playlist with all my previous interviews with guests in entrepreneurship. Check out the full show notes (now including transcripts!) at fycuriosity.com, and join us for the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle. Please leave a review for this episode—it’s really easy and will only take a minute, and it really helps me reach new listeners. Thanks! If you enjoyed our conversation, I hope you’ll share it with a friend.

    1h 1m

  8. MAR 4

    CPT #123: Own Your Power

    “I am here to help people get their power back. I don’t want people’s power.” Whether you know it or not, you have immense creative and personal power. But in a society that often tries to take that power away—or tells you that you should give your power to a "guru"—it’s easy to feel invisible in your own life. In this video, I explore why creativity is actually the fastest path back to yourself. While traditional tools in psychology and psychotherapy are valuable for understanding our past, messy and joyful creativity focuses on your aliveness in the present. This channel is a sanctuary for those who want to reclaim their agency without the pressure of productivity or performance. My Promise to You: • 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’ll never tell you that you are "broken" or need to be "optimized". • 🤷🏻‍♂️ I won’t ask you to give your power to a "guru" or follow a rigid system. • 😁 I will never prioritize a "crush it" mentality over your need for a safe haven.   What we’re exploring in this episode: • The Power Illusion: Why "power-over" is usually an illusion and how to tap into "power-with" instead. • The Political is Personal: Navigating a world where authoritarianism and "guru culture" try to claim your agency. • Creativity as Self-Relationship: Why playing with colors or words is a radical act of reclaiming your own decisions. • Reclaiming Your Aliveness: How to use your creative power to make a difference in your community. Sound good? If this resonates, subscribe to join our rebellion against the "shoulds." And if you want a physical sanctuary to practice this way of being, join us for our next free Creativity Circle. And if you want a safe space to explore this way of being with others, the door to our next free Creativity Circle is open. (Don't forget to confirm your subscription!) You can find my Substack Live conversation here. Want more tips? Check out this playlist with all my previous Creative Pep Talks!

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Follow Your Curiosity is a creativity podcast for ordinary people who want to explore extraordinary creativity and do their creative work more easily. I’m Nancy Norbeck, a Master Creativity Coach, and I host this show to help you move creativity from a "luxury" to a necessity in your life. Whether you are an exhausted perfectionist looking to reclaim your spark or a creator who wants to move past procrastination, I provide a sanctuary for messy, joyful creativity for people who long to feel human again. Every other week, I share in-depth, unscripted interviews with people from all backgrounds about their creative lives. We explore how they got started, what shaped them, and how they found their way into their work. In the alternating weeks, I share Creative Pep Talk episodes featuring ideas, tools, and reflections designed to help you quiet your inner critic and take the smallest, easiest step back to your own aliveness. Following my own curiosity often leads me into unexpected territory—including conversations connected to Doctor Who and the people who bring those stories to life, both in front of and behind the scenes. Every episode stands on its own, so I invite you to start wherever your curiosity takes you. If you’re ready to practice this way of being in a community, I invite you to join me for a free Creativity Circle. Join the Follow Your Curiosity Creativity Circle: https://fyc.quest/Circle

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