11 episodes

Welcome to "Free Outside," the ultimate podcast for outdoor enthusiasts! Join me, Jeff Garmire, as I blur the lines between trail running, Fastest Known Times (FKTs), thru-hiking, backpacking, and all endurance. With 20 FKTs under my belt, a book, a movie, and plenty of unconventional experiences, I'm here to share my adventures and insights.

Expect engaging interviews and fun interactions with guests who excel in various ways. Whether we're discussing the art of slowly running through forests, the thrill of a challenging hike, or simply an appreciator of beauty and comedy, here we are.

Free Outside Jeff Garmire

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Welcome to "Free Outside," the ultimate podcast for outdoor enthusiasts! Join me, Jeff Garmire, as I blur the lines between trail running, Fastest Known Times (FKTs), thru-hiking, backpacking, and all endurance. With 20 FKTs under my belt, a book, a movie, and plenty of unconventional experiences, I'm here to share my adventures and insights.

Expect engaging interviews and fun interactions with guests who excel in various ways. Whether we're discussing the art of slowly running through forests, the thrill of a challenging hike, or simply an appreciator of beauty and comedy, here we are.

    Fill Out Your Dash and Talking Balancing Running and Music: Liz Derstine's Story

    Fill Out Your Dash and Talking Balancing Running and Music: Liz Derstine's Story

    We talk about filling out your dash, living a full life. Then I interview Liz Derstine, an accomplished trail runner and FKT (Fastest Known Time) record holder. We discuss Liz's trail name, her experience on the Appalachian Trail, her connection with Warren Doyle, and her transition to self-supported FKT attempts.

    Liz also shares her challenges with blisters, animal encounters, sleep deprivation, and hallucinations during her FKTs. She discusses balancing her running and music careers and expresses her love for long-distance trail FKTs. The episode concludes with Liz's recent FKT attempt on the Colorado Trail and her support for her friend's FKT attempt on the same trail after hers ended.



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    Takeaways


    Liz Derstine, also known as Mercury, is an accomplished trail runner and FKT record holder.
    She gained her trail name from a song she listened to while preparing for a practice hike on the Appalachian Trail.
    Liz's first through-hike and FKT attempt was on the Appalachian Trail, with Warren Doyle as her support.
    She was inspired by Jennifer Pharr Davis and Scott Jurek's books and attended a workshop by Warren Doyle to mentally prepare for the AT.
    Liz transitioned to self-supported FKT attempts on trails like the Long Trail and the Penhody Trail.
    She faced challenges such as blisters, animal encounters, sleep deprivation, and hallucinations during her FKT attempts.
    Liz balances her running and music careers, using her run commute as a way to decompress at the end of the day.
    She finds joy in long-distance trail FKT attempts and plans to continue pursuing them in the future.
    Liz also values the supportive nature of the trail running community and the willingness to help each other achieve their goals.

    Sound Bites


    "Jerry filled out his dash"
    "Fill out that dash"
    "How did you get your trail name?"

    Chapters

    00:00 Remembering Jerry West and Filling Out the Dash

    03:25 Getting the Trail Name Mercury

    05:24 Connecting with Warren Doyle and Starting the Appalachian Trail

    09:46 Learning and Preparing for the AT

    13:33 Challenges on the Trail: Blisters, Animal Encounters, and Sleep Deprivation

    18:54 Dealing with Sleep Deprivation and Pushing Through

    22:17 Hallucinations and Mind Games on the Trail

    25:08 Transitioning to Self-Supported FKT Attempts

    30:27 Running Commute and Balancing Running and Music Careers

    32:53 The Joy of Long-Distance Trail FKTs

    36:42 Supportive Nature of the Trail Running Community

    41:34 Last Person Standing Style and Overcoming Mental Blocks

    43:56 Most Enjoyable Experiences: Swiss Via Alpina and Colorado Trail

    Keywords: trail running, FKT, Liz Durstein, Appalachian Trail, self-supported, blisters, animal encounters, sleep deprivation, hallucinations, balancing, long-distance trail, Colorado Trail



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    • 47 min
    Interviewed by a Robot. Thru Hiking, Ultrarunning, Backpacking: Artificial Intelligence interview me

    Interviewed by a Robot. Thru Hiking, Ultrarunning, Backpacking: Artificial Intelligence interview me

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    AI joins this podcast and conducts the interview, so we are going third person in the description. Jeff Garmire discusses his journey and experiences in long-distance hiking and ultra running. He shares how he got into these activities and the challenges he faced along the way.

    Jeff also talks about the importance of mental and physical preparation for setting FKTs (Fastest Known Times) on trails, as well as the role of nutrition and hydration in his training. He emphasizes the need to find fun and enjoyment in these activities and to have a strong why.

    Jeff also discusses the balance between solitude and connections within the hiking and ultra running communities, and the importance of finding a supportive community. He shares stories of unexpected moments on the trail and how he adapted to challenges. Jeff concludes by encouraging others to pursue their own adventures and to make a positive impact on individuals and local businesses.

    -Long-distance hiking and ultra running require mental and physical preparation, as well as finding enjoyment and fun in the activities.
    -Having a strong why and a supportive community are important factors in achieving success in FKT attempts and races.
    -Balancing solitude and connections within the hiking and ultra running communities can be challenging but rewarding.
    -Adapting to unexpected challenges and finding creative solutions is crucial in long-distance hiking and FKT attempts.
    -Making a positive impact on individuals and supporting local businesses can contribute to a thriving hiking and ultra running community.

    Sound Bites
    "I have this awesome idea and we're gonna try it."
    "Welcome to the show, Jeff. It's great to have you here."
    "Jamil Curry of Aravaipa Racing asked if I wanted to do the inaugural year of Cocodona 250."

    Chapters
    00:00 Jeff Garmire's Journey and Experiences
    05:33 Challenges and Triumphs in Long-Distance Hiking and Ultra Running
    09:00 Preparing for FKT Attempts: Physical and Mental Resilience
    12:23 Finding Fun and Inspiration in the Outdoors
    24:39 Logistics and Planning for Successful Long-Distance Hikes and FKT Attempts
    31:47 The Evolving World of Through Hiking and Ultra Running
    35:03 Jeff Garmire's Message: Enjoy, Inspire, and Support

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    Instagram: thefreeoutside
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    Keywords
    long-distance hiking, ultra running, FKT, mental preparation, physical preparation, nutrition, hydration, balance, community, challenges, adaptation, enjoyment, support, impact, ultralight backpacking, backpacking, thru hiking, ultrarunning, Fastest Known Time, Speed Record, Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, Arizona Trail, Continental Divide Trail, trail running


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    • 44 min
    Cottage Brands in the Outdoors with Lloyd Vogel of Garage Grown Gear

    Cottage Brands in the Outdoors with Lloyd Vogel of Garage Grown Gear

    The conversation with Lloyd Vogel, co-founder of Garage Grown Gear, delves into the challenges and successes of running an e-commerce platform for small outdoor gear businesses. Lloyd shares insights on the state of the industry, the crossover between different outdoor disciplines, lessons learned from starting a business, and the importance of supporting small brands. The conversation also explores the process of finding and working with small brands, the impact of growth in the outdoor industry, and the strategic focus on ultralight backpacking.

    The podcast covers a wide range of topics related to the outdoor industry, including product innovation, market growth, the impact of outdoor activities on personal development, and the challenges of starting and running a business. The discussion also delves into the interconnectedness of various outdoor activities and the inclusive nature of the outdoor industry. This is a big episode from one of the biggest players in the cottage backpacking and thru hiking industry that also extends into FKTs, fastpacking, bikepacking, and trail running.

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    Takeaways
    -Running a business involves embracing failure and challenges as an integral part of the journey.
    -The cottage industry is a source of innovation and creativity in the outdoor gear market.
    -Supporting small brands and fostering genuine relationships is crucial for sustainable growth in the e-commerce space.
    -Strategic focus and niche specialization are key to success in the competitive outdoor gear market. The outdoor industry is experiencing growth and innovation, with a focus on ultra-light gear and niche products.
    Personal experiences in outdoor activities can inspire product innovation and development within the industry.
    -The outdoor industry fosters a sense of community and inclusivity, with a shared passion for spending time outside.
    -Starting and running a business in the outdoor industry requires focus, patience, and the ability to adapt to challenges and failures.
    -The interconnectedness of outdoor activities highlights the similarities and shared experiences across different disciplines within the industry.

    Sound Bites
    "You can't just expect yourself to be perfect. You have to expect and know that failure and challenge is part of running a business."
    "The outdoor industry is having a hard time because everyone's kind of selling the same thing. It makes you generic, boring, and uninteresting."
    "For most of our brands, the only other place that you can buy it other than on their site directly is through us."
    "It's my responsibility to take those reflections and infuse them back into my other relationships."
    "Gear is always a reflection of the human desire to spend more time outside."

    Chapters
    00:00 Embracing Failure and Challenges in Business
    02:17 The Cottage Industry: A Source of Innovation
    07:05 Fostering Genuine Relationships with Small Brands
    26:22 Exploring Innovation and Growth in the Outdoor Industry
    29:40 The Impact of Outdoor Activities on Product Development
    41:47 Challenges and Rewards of Starting a Business in the Outdoor Industry
    45:25 The Inclusivity and Interconnectedness of Outdoor Activities

    Buy Merch to support: https://www.freeoutside.com/shop

    Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF
    Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com

    Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside

    Website: www.Freeoutside.com
    Instagram: thefreeoutside
    facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

    Keywords
    e-commerce, small businesses, outdoor gear, cottage industry, entrepreneurship, brand discovery, ultralight backpacking, growth strategy, outdoor industry, product innovation, market growth, personal development, starting a business, interconnectedness, inclusivity, backpacking, thru hiking, records, fastest known time, FKT


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    • 53 min
    Pursuit of Happiness: Mental Health Journey with Ultrarunning, FKTs, Thru Hiking, and Trail Running

    Pursuit of Happiness: Mental Health Journey with Ultrarunning, FKTs, Thru Hiking, and Trail Running

    I answer the audience question: "I'd love to hear more about your mental health journey as an ultrarunner. This community is wonderful, but it's also cutthroat and I'd love to hear how you've navigated the ups and downs."

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    I share my mental health journey as an ultrarunner, FKT'r, and thru hiker, discussing the struggles, experiences, and the tools to navigate the ups and downs.

    I reflect on my journey from depression and loneliness to finding fulfillment through immersive experiences, therapy, and community.

    The story emphasizes the importance of finding the right tools at the right time and the ongoing balance of personal and growth goals.

    Takeaways

    The journey through mental health is a bumpy road with ups and downs, but finding the right tools at the right time is crucial.

    Immersive experiences, therapy, and community play a significant role in navigating mental health challenges and finding fulfillment.

    Balancing personal goals with coaching goals and finding fulfillment through sharing and creating are essential aspects of the journey.

    Recognizing the need for drastic change and stepping back to eliminate certain things in order to move forward is a crucial part of the mental health journey.

    Sound Bites

    "I'd love to hear more about your mental health journey as an ultrarunner. This community is wonderful, but it's also cutthroat and I'd love to hear how you've navigated the ups and downs."

    "It's just as immersive. Like one goal is sitting out there. Life is so simple. You're going after this one thing. All your decisions point towards being successful."

    "I knew that that was the only option at the time, and in order to move forward, I needed to step back and eliminate those things and then build back up."

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    Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com

    Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside
    Website: www.Freeoutside.com
    Instagram: thefreeoutside
    facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside

    Keywords

    mental health, ultrarunner, depression, immersive experiences, therapy, community, balance, coaching goals, ultrarunning, Appalachian trail, pacific crest trail, continental divide trail, Arizona trail, grand enchantment trail


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    • 34 min
    Crocs, Eclipses, Trail Running Contracts, Bear Encounters, and thru hiking the Pangea Traverse with Lil Buddha

    Crocs, Eclipses, Trail Running Contracts, Bear Encounters, and thru hiking the Pangea Traverse with Lil Buddha

    I discuss Crocs, eclipses, a game called Deal or No Deal with trail running contracts, and an interview with Lil Buddha about his Pangea Traverse and bear encounters. I share share some news and experiences with crocs, including a 5k run and and Chris Howett's Guinness world record marathon.

    I discuss eclipses and play a fun game with Trail Running Brand contracts. I speak to Little' Buddha about his experiences as a long-distance hiker, his identity as a Hmong American, and his efforts to raise awareness and funds for the AAPI community. He talks about insights into his family's refugee journey and the challenges of planning and executing the Pangea Traverse.

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    Takeaways


    Crocs can be a source of Guiness world records especially in the marathon.
    Eclipses are a captivating natural phenomenon
    The game 'Deal or No Deal' is played with the Trail Running Industry
    Thru-hiking and hitchhiking experiences are highlighted
    The Pangea Traverse, a 16,000-mile hiking endeavor, requires meticulous planning and funding, presenting logistical and environmental challenges.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Crocs Fascination

    05:21 Passion for Eclipses and Outdoor Adventures

    09:08 The Game of 'Deal or No Deal' in the Outdoor Industry

    13:06 Hitchhiking, Through-Hiking, and Bear Encounters

    38:04 The Pangea Traverse: Planning, Challenges, and Impact

    Sound Bites


    "I wanted to be in the community and be visible, right? As a person of color, as an Asian American living in the United States, that was participating in something that for the most part, most BIPOC people are underrepresented in."
    "My family, my mom, you know, she had to escape. So my father and mother were separated during this. My father was out fighting. My mom was still in the village with my brothers and sisters and me unborn."
    "I've got three years that I could, you know, put it all into hiking. So it'll take three years to complete the 16,000 miles."

    Keywords

    podcast, crocs, eclipses, game, interview, Pangea Traverse, bear encounters, through-hiking, hitchhiking, marathon, world record, eclipses fascination, long-distance hiking, Hmong American, refugee journey, AAPI community, Pangea Traverse, fundraising


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    • 56 min
    Doping, FKTs, Cocodona, UTMB, Trail Running, and Ugly Rocks in this solocast

    Doping, FKTs, Cocodona, UTMB, Trail Running, and Ugly Rocks in this solocast

    In this episode we discusses various topics including FKTs, the Cocodona race, UTMB, doping in trail running, and the concept of power hiking. Also, some jokes written by AI and its thoughts on different generations. The episode ends with a book recommendation and a reflection on the significance of rocks.

    Takeaways


    Notable FKTs started this month. A PCT FKT attempt, an Appalachian FKT attempt and a new unsupported FKT on the Arizona Trail by Heather "Anish" Anderson.
    The Cocodona race is gaining attention and popularity, with its unique course and community involvement.
    UTMB (Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc) is considered one of the biggest and most competitive trail races in the world and is making a small step into drug testing in trail running
    Doping is a concern in trail running, and efforts are being made to address it, although the fragmented nature of the sport makes it challenging.
    The concept of power hiking in ultra running is debated, with some considering it a form of walking and others emphasizing its athletic nature.
    Humor and jokes related to ultra running and different generations are awful.
    A book recommendation, 'Itch' by Nick Fowler, is given.
    The significance of rocks, particularly 'ugly rocks,' is pondered.

    Sound bites


    "FKT's jokes ugly rocks this episode has everything"
    "FKTs on the Pacific Crest Trail and the Appalachian Trail. She's also written a couple of books if you're a book person."
    "There's even the influencer level of money in the sport"

    Chapters

    00:00 FKTs, Cocodona, and UTMB: Exploring the World of Trail Running

    03:45 Heather Anderson's FKTs and Book Recommendations

    08:01 Addressing Doping in Trail Running

    16:29 The Debate on Power Hiking in Ultra Running

    23:04 Contemplating the Significance of Rocks

    Keywords FKTs, Cocodona, UTMB, trail running, doping, power hiking, jokes, generations, book recommendation, rocks


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    • 24 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
32 Ratings

32 Ratings

thefussydutchman ,

Legend!

Love listening to Jeff’s stories, such an incredible athlete but doesn’t seem to take things too seriously and sounds like a great guy. Unsolicited review of his book: it’s great!!!

asknickfowler ,

Jeff is funny

Undeniably him. I’m cracking up at the intros and whole flow of things. Just from the first handful of podcasts I can tell this one is going to be fun to follow.

NCTraceyLA ,

Engaging, give it a listen

So good I listened to it four times.

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