Herding Tigers: The Creative Leader Podcast

Todd Henry
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Leading creative people is one of the hardest jobs in any organization. Bestselling author Todd Henry (Herding Tigers, The Accidental Creative, and others) brings you practical strategies for creative leadership — from managing creative teams and building a culture of innovation, to helping your people stay prolific, brilliant, and healthy. Each episode delivers actionable insights on workplace creativity, team productivity, and what it really takes to unleash the full potential of the talented people around you. If you lead creative pros, or are one, this is your show.

  1. May 28

    Alone With Your Thoughts: Why Self-Awareness Is a Leadership Superpower

    In 1995, Bill Gates disappeared into a cedar cabin in the Pacific Northwest for a week — no meetings, no family, no distractions. What emerged from that silence was a memo called "The Internet Tidal Wave" that repositioned Microsoft for the internet age. He called it Think Week. And it changed everything. Most of us can't take a week off-grid. But the principle behind what Gates did is available to every leader, every single day. In this episode, Todd explores why knowing what's on your mind is one of the most underleveraged skills in leadership — and what you're missing when you never slow down long enough to find out. In This Episode Three things that only surface when you make time to be alone with your thoughts: 1. Patterns you're missing. In the noise of daily operations, patterns accumulate quietly — in your team, your work, your own behavior. You can't connect the dots when you're always running. 2. Tensions you're carrying. Leadership isn't about eliminating tension — it's about identifying and managing it. Unnamed tension leaks into your decisions and relationships. Solitude gives you the chance to finally name it. 3. Your feelings, instincts, and intuition. Your gut is data. But you can only access it when you get quiet enough to listen. Three Ways to Start This Week Morning solitude — 15–20 minutes before your phone, before the news, before anyone else's agendaA walk at lunch — no headphones, no podcast, just movement and an open mind25 minutes before bed with a blank notepad and one question: What's actually on my mind? Quote of the Episode "The leaders who know themselves best don't just work hard. They also know what's going on inside them. That self-knowledge is a competitive advantage — and it only comes from one place: silence." Mentioned in This Episode Bill Gates' Think Week — a twice-yearly solo retreat Gates began in the 1980s, documented by The Wall Street Journal"The Internet Tidal Wave" — Gates' 1995 internal memo, written during a Think Week, that redirected Microsoft's strategy toward the internet About Herding Tigers Herding Tigers is the podcast for creative leaders hosted by Todd Henry, author of Herding Tigers, Die Empty, and The Accidental Creative. Each episode delivers practical insights to help you lead well, do your best work, and bring out the best in your team. Connect with Todd toddhenry.com | @toddhenry

    10 min

  2. May 7

    The 3 Things You Own as a Leader

    In this episode of the Herding Tigers podcast, we take a deep dive into the real heart of leadership: people. We discuss the complex, often unpredictable nature of leading teams and explore how leadership is less about administrating tasks and more about owning responsibility in three crucial areas—culture, talent, and work. We outline the difference between merely managing these areas and fundamentally owning them. Culture is revealed as the invisible operating system underlying our teams—defined by what we model, reward, and tolerate. We also highlight why talent management goes beyond HR processes, emphasizing the development and real conversations necessary to help team members reach their full potential. Lastly, we dig into why connecting people to the meaning behind their work fuels true engagement, creativity, and ownership. The episode closes with a powerful reminder that thriving organizations succeed when leaders embrace the complexity of people and fully own culture, talent, and work—not just in words, but in action. Five Key LearningsPeople are at the core of leadership: Effective leadership is grounded in understanding and embracing the complexity of people, not wishing for it to be simpler.Culture is built through action, not aspiration: We get the culture we model and reward—it's a continual process, either being built or eroded each day.Talent must be developed, not just managed: Real leadership is about helping team members grow into their potential through candid, growth-focused relationships, not just formal reviews.The meaning behind work matters: Connecting people to the "why" behind their tasks leads to greater ownership, engagement, and creativity.Success is a virtuous cycle: Healthy culture attracts great talent, which produces excellent work—reinforcing trust and strengthening culture in return. Find your community of creative leaders. Check out Creative Leader Roundtable at CreativeLeader.net

    7 min

  3. Apr 30

    Optimizing: You're Probably Playing Different Games at the Same Table

    In this surprise revival of the Herding Tigers Podcast, we kick off a new direction with an exploration of what it means to "optimize" as leaders. We discuss the invisible drivers that cause organizational tension, challenging the idea that conflict always comes from personality clashes or miscommunication. Instead, we unpack the reality that everyone—ourselves included—is optimizing for something different, whether it’s stability, recognition, autonomy, craft, efficiency, or meaning. We share real-world examples from recent events and provide a practical framework for understanding and talking about these optimization goals with our teams. The episode highlights why acknowledging these differences is essential for effective leadership, how to surface hidden motivations, and why conscious tension leads to better outcomes than underground misalignment. Five Key LearningsEveryone on your team is optimizing for something—stability, recognition, autonomy, craft, efficiency, income, comfort, or meaning—and not always the same thing.The unseen tension in organizations often stems from people “playing different games at the same table,” keeping score in different ways.None of the motivations or optimization goals are wrong; diverse goals can create necessary, creative tension when acknowledged openly.As leaders, it’s vital to name our own optimization drivers, get curious about those of others, and foster team conversations about what each person is optimizing for.The goal isn’t to demand uniformity, but to make tensions conscious and productive—this balanced diversity ultimately improves the team’s performance. Find your tribe! Check out Creative Leader Roundtable at creativeleader.net

    10 min

  4. 05/24/2022

    5 Conversations To Have With Your Team

    There are five process-related conversations that can help your team maintain better focus, dispel fear, and manage expectations. In this episode, I share the five conversations and how to implement them effectively. First a few ground-rules. Do not steamroll your team with these and if you're a team member, don't barge into your manager's office demanding to have these conversations. This is about relationship and relationship is about empathy, trust and commitment. If we're going to have these conversations, we must be committed to the results, even if they're not what we wish for. We have to be willing to hear the truth and act on it even when we dislike it. One more quick ground rule. You need to be having these conversations both on a team level and an individual level with your team members. Some team members might not feel comfortable expressing themselves in a larger group, but they might have insights that can help you engage in a more healthy way if you give them space to talk. You need to formalize your conversations. In the words of management guru Peter Drucker, "what gets measured gets done." You need to have a system for these conversations and not just wait for the opportune time to occur. It never will. 1. The Clarity Conversation This conversation is all about bringing alignment and combatting dissonance with our teams. It's about making sure that what we SAY we're about is what we're actually about. It's about making sure that we understand the objectives of our projects, our teams and our organization's reason for being. – Do what/why add up? In other words, is what we SAY we're about what we're actually doing? One way to ask this question is "is there anything we're doing right now that seems out of character for us?" Step back and allow the conversation to ensue. Don't get defensive and don't feel the need to argue. This is not about being right, it's about discerning and identifying problems within the team. - Do you understand the objectives? Are they clear? Is there anything you're unclear about? Sometimes people won't speak up because they assume that everyone else gets it and they're the only idiot. This kind of isolation is a lie and it countermands creative effectiveness. The more we discuss the objectives until everyone is crystal clear, the better off we'll be. Clarity is critical to healthy team creating. The more clear we are about the problems we're trying to solve, the more effective we will be in that creating. But the less clear we are about aligning the why and the what, the more our process will dissolve into chaos. 2. The Expectations Conversation This very simple conversation is designed to neutralize the victim mindset. By calling out and allowing conversations about expectations we can be certain that we're not allowing confusion to grow, which can lead to finger-pointing and self-protection rather than generosity and trust. – Do you know what’s expected of you? Get the artist to express their understanding of expectations directly and simply. – What do you expect from me and am I falling short? Again, don't be defensive and try to defend yourself. If the stated expectations are unrealistic, have that conversation, but it's important that you realize that your role is to serve, not to be right. 3. The Fear Conversation This is the most nebulous of the conversations and is one of the more difficult to get people to open up to, but it can be one of the most powerful if we have the guts to engage in it. This is all about shining light into dark, unspoken places and neutralizing emerging fear. – What are you afraid might happen and why? In other words, what makes you "gun shy" in your creating? – Do you feel free to take risks? If so, why? What environmental cues are leading you to that? 4. The Engagement Conversation This conversation is all about identifying patterns of engagement/energy/enthusiasm on the team. Creativity is rhythmic, both on an individual and team level and we have to take that into account as we're planning our work. This conversation helps you - as the leader of process - to gauge where the team is in terms of energy and engagement and plan accordingly. It also helps the team - in a collective sense - to gain a better understanding of where each member is in terms of inspiration and energy level. – What’s your energy level/enthusiasm? – What’s inspiring you? – How do you feel about the work you’re doing? – What’s the best thing we’re doing and why? 5. The “Final 10%” Conversation This conversation is all about neutralizing - as my friend Ben likes to call them - "whispers in the hallway." These are the conversations that emerge when a small group of people want to commiserate but they don't have the guts to speak their thoughts to the organization either because they're spineless or because there isn't a culture of trust. Either way, you are WAY better off having these conversations in a team context and one-on-one than allowing them to fester and create dissonance and fear. So what you're going to do in this conversation is ask them to tell you the "final remnant" of feedback that they're not going to volunteer unless you ask for it. - What’s the dumbest thing I/we are doing right now? – What’s the smartest thing I/we are doing right now? – What something obvious that you don’t think I’m seeing?

    14 min

  5. 05/13/2022

    Self-Care For Leaders

    On this episode, we do a quick habit check-up to ensure that you're protecting your viability as a leader. The old saying says "As goes the leader, so goes the team." To be effective, you need to model not only work ethic and character, but also what it looks like to be a healthy creative pro. We discuss five key areas where you should have practices to help you maintain health as a leader.

    6 min

  6. 05/05/2022

    Exorcise The Ghost (Rules)

    There are ghosts haunting the halls of your organization. They are invisible assumptions, false and limiting narratives, and other types of "rules" that limit the kinds of ideas your team members will introduce, who will collaborate with whom, and how your team functions. In this episode, we discuss the nature of ghost rules and how to exorcise them for good.

    6 min
  7. Shift From Maker To Manager

    04/20/2022

    Shift From Maker To Manager

    The hardest transition to make when you step into a leadership role is the one from maker to manager. When you are early in your career, you are primarily evaluated on your ability to do the work - to control it, shape it, and make it great. However, once you transition into leadership your job is no longer to do the work, it's to LEAD the work. This is a fundamentally different responsibility, and one that many managers get wrong. In this episode of the Herding Tigers podcast, I discuss some tensions that every leader of creative people experiences as they attempt the shift from maker to manager, and how to deal with them. Join the Leader List to get one short leadership essay a week for 52 weeks. Want to dive deeper? Check out the Herding Tigers Creative Leader Course.

    11 min

  8. 04/13/2022

    Why Your Perpetual Optimism Might Be Killing Your Team

    There is a big difference between telling the actual truth and telling people what you wish was the truth. Some leaders think that to inspire their team they must always have a positive vision, so they translate that belief to “I must ensure that team members feel like everything is going great.” However, this is not driven by a desire to do what’s in the best interest of the team, but by the neediness of the leader. They don’t want to deal with the discomfort of wading through the murky grey waters of uncertainty. It’s much easier to deal in black and white, so they paint the situation as much more simple and positive it really is. The dissonance team members feel between words and reality causes a major breach in trust. (By the way, your team is smart.) Have you ever met that person who always puts a positive spin on everything? The world could be falling apart, cats and dogs living together in harmony, and fire and brimstone falling from the clouds, but somehow they still muster a smile and say it’s going to be OK? You’ll hear many gurus and leadership experts touting the importance of optimism and the strategic value of always keeping a positive mindset. There’s nothing inherently wrong with this advice, except that it’s taken to an irresponsible extreme. When your optimism is decoupled from reality, you risk losing the trust of your team and your perspective on what needs to be done. That person who always puts a positive spin on things? You probably don’t trust them. Not fully, anyway. They might be fun to hang out with, and they might be able to turn around a bad night out, but it’s doubtful that you’d go to them first when you need serious advice about an important decision. You simply can’t trust that they’ll give you a realistic viewpoint. They are too clouded by their unrealistic “future’s so bright I gotta wear shades” mentality. If you aren’t realistic with your team, then you risk losing their trust. They’ll listen to you, but they won’t believe you. As legendary leadership expert Warren Bennis said, “Trust is the lubrication that makes it possible for organizations to work.” If your team suspects that you’re putting a glossy overtone on everything, they’ll soon stop paying attention and will seek out a truth teller. Your organization will become dysfunctional. Yes, informed optimism is the fuel of change, but naive optimism is deadly. Wishing and hoping is never a solution to actual problems. If you want to effect change, you need to pair your optimism with realism and skill. The same principles apply to your team. Don't fall for the temptation to put a glossy coat on everything. Your team will trust you more, and will follow you into the uncertainty, when they believe that you're telling them the truth.

    6 min
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Leading creative people is one of the hardest jobs in any organization. Bestselling author Todd Henry (Herding Tigers, The Accidental Creative, and others) brings you practical strategies for creative leadership — from managing creative teams and building a culture of innovation, to helping your people stay prolific, brilliant, and healthy. Each episode delivers actionable insights on workplace creativity, team productivity, and what it really takes to unleash the full potential of the talented people around you. If you lead creative pros, or are one, this is your show.

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