Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

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Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

From the Intergalactic Sports Network and Ember Media we bring you a new look at wrestling history! Join us for deep dives into the subjects, humans, and matches that have built pro wrestling beyond what we see every week! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Season 1

  1. EPISODE 1

    The First National Promotion Part One: This is College Basketball's Fault

    In the open of our first full season, we look at the thesis statement for our project and the man responsible for our subject matter, Eddie Einhorn. References! EINHORN LINKS https://seamheads.com/2014/03/01/an-interview-with-white-sox-owner-eddie-einhorn/ http://www.wrestlingepicenter.com/RIP/Einhorn.html chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1tsr3U9VUXRacn4VXHP5Qe9hMFrqkHxMo&authuser=0&acrobatPromotionSource=GoogleDriveNativeView https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcN2kI7zvfc&t=10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oayh-uBvAcQ RINGLEY http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=124546 GEORGE SCOTT https://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/rip_hawk/rip_hawk_05.htm https://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/superstar/superstar01.htm https://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2019/06/best-of-tv-nc-1975.html http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=136889 https://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/almanac/history/1975_03.htm https://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/murdock-remembers-george-scott.html https://www.starnewsonline.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/2023/02/25/ric-flair-and-wilmington-nc-plane-crash-photos/11302564002/  https://midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/thatcher/george_scott.htm https://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/resourcecenter/interviews/superstar/superstar02.htm http://www.wrestlingclassics.com/wawli/New191-200.htm http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=043125 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    20 min

  2. EPISODE 2

    Plane Crashes, The Mafia, and Madison Square Garden

    In the second edition of our season, George Scott gives Eddie Einhorn his answer, we meet the man who would partner with Einhorn, learn how a Genovese boss fought a referee, and more! Resources https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2010/02/24/announcer-martinez-was-instrumental-in-iwa-video-world/ https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/ohio/cleveland/cleveland-history.html https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts12.htm https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=739 https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/PedroMartinez.html https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=270234 https://www.nyprowrestling.com/results/1950s/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/gary_dunaier/7208150938/in/album-72157629752038594/ https://www.whenitwascool.com/history-of-wrestling-1952 https://forgottenrollerrinksofthepast.com/parkcircle.html https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/supercards/usa/misc/newyork.html https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/NewYorkTerritory.html https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=2113&page=4&s=200 https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=2113&page=4&search=madison+square+garden Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    24 min

  3. EPISODE 3

    How the Federal Government, Lack of Vision, and TV Time Created The WWE

    Our look at the first national wrestling promotion brings us to when the NWA was at the peak of its powers but would see Toots Mondt's lack of success at the track and at the gate, kneecapping of nationally televised cards, and the Federal Government create major cracks that would not only lead to the IWA in 1975 but to the creation of World Wrestling Entertainment. Resources https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/NevadaTerritory.html https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/Doyle.htmlhttps://www.legacyofwrestling.com/BarnettDoyle2.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWA_%22Beat_the_Champ%22_Television_Championship http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005650 https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/Doyle.html http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005650 http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=150402 https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/memories-of-studio-wrestling.518890/ http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=047958 http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=034940 https://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profile/jim-barnett/ https://mikemooneyham.com/2004/09/26/barnett-an-unforgettable-figure/ https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/RoyShire.html https://houseofdeception.com/Roy_Shire.html http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000353 https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/sanfrancisco/sanfrancisco6-2.htm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    20 min

  4. EPISODE 4

    Alternate Universe WWE Rises In Midwest As NWA Retightens Grip

    We return to the Johnny Doyle saga as he's now partnered with Jim Barnett to slowly take over the United States with their revolutionary brand of pro wrestling in the wake of the NWA's Consent Decree and an investigation by the Department of Justice. Despite Barnett and Doyle's former partnerships with Fred Kohler, Vince McMahon, and Toots Mondt, don't expect those partnerships to be sustained as Barnett and Doyle would see unlikely allies amidst their renegade siege across the United States. https://x.com/GreatBrianLast/status/1088227713129857024 https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/Doyle.html https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/BarnettDoyle2.html http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005650 http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=150402 https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/memories-of-studio-wrestling.518890/ http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=047958 http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=034940 https://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profile/jim-barnett/ https://mikemooneyham.com/2004/09/26/barnett-an-unforgettable-figure/ https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/RoyShire.html https://houseofdeception.com/Roy_Shire.html https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/sanfrancisco/sanfrancisco6-2.htm https://www.geocities.ws/percivalafriend/friend060407.htm https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=384427737661137&set=pcb.384427794327798 https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/big-time-wrestling-san-francisco/ https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/wwa-ind/wwaind2.htm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    28 min

  5. EPISODE 5

    Football, The FBI, and the True Story of the WWE Title

    This week, we look at how the National Football League, their rivals, the American Football League, and the Department of Justice set the stage for not only Johnny Doyle and Jim Barnett's last act as a tandem in the United States but for Vince McMahon and Toots Mondt to keep Buddy Rogers as their World Heavyweight Champion without the NWA and the Federal Government looking breathing down their necks. Resources https://www.realtime1960s.com/post/dick-the-bruiser-in-scuffle-with-alex-karras https://www.realtime1960s.com/post/blood-smeared-dick-the-bruiser-pins-alex-karras-in-grudge-match http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=070505 https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press-bruiser-aftermath-art/6565553/ https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press-bruiser-karras-fight/6565432/ https://www.instagram.com/realtime1960s/p/CrjxWflvku6/ http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=041492 https://www.indystar.com/story/news/history/retroindy/2015/11/19/dick-bruiser-worlds-most-dangerous-wrestler/75993686/ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/picture-gallery/sports/history/2014/05/19/23-photos-former-hawkeye-alex-karras/9304487/ https://www.aseaofblue.com/2013/8/14/4570622/kentucky-football-tales-from-the-dark-side-charlie-bradshaw-part-three http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=134997 https://muchnick.net/nwa-doj.pdf Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    34 min

  6. EPISODE 6

    Nothing Works In Cleveland, Buddy Rogers Heart Gives Out, Bruno Sammartino Rises, and Meet Johnny Powers

    Fun times in Cleveland seems like a misnomer, but this week we head to The Land and get a look at some of the secret wrestling history that played into Bruno Sammartino becoming WWWF Champion! This plus Bruno's path to the title, Buddy Rogers final act in Capitol Wrestling, Johnny Powers and how he connects to not only these two, but our story, the comparisons between this situation and the Montreal Screwjob, Bruno and Buddy being the proto-CM Punk and Cody Rhodes, along with Powers being an early model of who Cody Rhodes would become. https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/ohio/cleveland/cleveland-history.html https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts12.htm http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=027360 http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=010574 https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&sort=ort&land=3&stadt=18®ion=4&arena=80&jahr=0&showart=0&ansicht=0&seite=11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Wrestling_Federation https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts6-2.htm https://www.cleveland.com/pdextra/2010/07/l-l-l-l-lets_get_ready_to_reme.html https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=381 https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts15.htm https://www.f4wonline.com/news/other-wrestling/former-nwf-promoter-johnny-powers-passes-away-at-79-years-old/ https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2023/01/07/johnny-powers-dead-at-79/ http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=024833 https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts11.htm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    26 min

  7. EPISODE 7

    The Secret Wrestling History Of The WWE Superstar Who Left To Become Even Bigger | Historically Speaking

    The story of the International Wrestling Alliance takes us to 1964 and 1965 this week as Johnny Powers goes from up-and-coming wrestler to main eventer to the hottest free agent in wrestling, much like someone else we know. He also...refuses to do jobs. All of this plus a secret Crockett-McMahon Wrestling War of the mid-60's, payola scams, and Johnny Powers in his own words on Historically Speaking! Resources https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=1303&page=4&s=1100 https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=243&page=4&search=Johnny+Powers https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=9320&page=4&s=500 https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=293461 https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=53623 https://www.nytimes.com/1972/11/13/archives/lonny-starr-dead-disk-jockey-at-whn.html https://www.wnew1130.com/music-2/staff/q-r-s-t/lonny-starr/ https://www.nyprowrestling.com/results/1960s/1964.html https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-news/53943655/ https://usaradiomuseum.com/category/payola-2/ Capitol Revolution, Tim Hornbaker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    25 min

  8. EPISODE 8

    Three Rings, Riots, and the secret history of New Japan Pro Wrestling

    Our deep dive into the secret history of pro wrestling continues as Johnny Powers goes from top guy to top promoter in this chapter of the "first" national wrestling promotion. At the same time, Matt gets nostalgic about a "backyard" wrestling company that was just teenagers fighting on some random Brooklyn beach. From Buffalo, To Cleveland, To Tokyo and beyond we look at the rise of Powers and Pedro Martinez' first joint effort, Powers putting on the first "Super Bowl" of Wrestling at Municipal Stadium, to Powers returning to heel form and setting off a riot, plus how Antonio Inoki won his first world championship nearly a decade before the IWGP would find it's way into the Lion's Den Resources https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=739&page=8 https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/1972-schedule-scores.shtml https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/ohio/cleveland/cleveland-history.html https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pitts12.htm https://www.clevescene.com/news/wrestling-legend-ox-baker-whose-1974-match-caused-a-riot-in-cleveland-dies-at-80-4395064 http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=163319 https://web.archive.org/web/20220218164234/https://buffalonews.com/news/pedro-martinez-famed-buffalo-wrestling-promoter-dies/article_b6f6b5d6-6b7a-5463-bc42-fa599e7dee37.html https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/PedroMartinez.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzQhKyCBwIs https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=85954 https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=739&page=4 http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=007490 https://www.wvxu.org/2023-07-18/50-years-and-counting-cleveland-shows-its-still-a-champ-in-the-world-of-wrestling http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=18;t=029935 http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=036913 http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013217 http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=163879;p=1 https://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/supercards/usa/misc/nwf.html https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/pittsbuffclev/pittsbuffclev.htm https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/NWF_North_American_Heavyweight_Championship https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/hottest-wrestling-feuds-60s-70s/ https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2023/01/08/mat-memories-a-farewell-to-johnny-powers/ https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/wrestling/the-life-and-times-of-legendary-golden-adonis-johnny-powers/article_547cdb6e-9380-11ed-994b-3b40a3d1cfa5.html https://www.postandcourier.com/staff/mike_mooneyham/pro-wrestling-superstar-johnny-powers-was-pioneer-risk-taker/article_8fd28936-5b08-5f8a-a37c-731d3b77ba1d.html Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    26 min

  9. 12/28/2024

    Toots Mondt Meets a Fist At Madison Square Garden

    We continue our look at Pedro Martinez and his road to the International Wrestling Alliance and the role he played in New York Wrestling in and out of the city, a look at NWA's power structure, a mini-wrestling war, and we finally talk about Toots Mondt getting punched out at MSG. Subscribe to learn more the secret history about pro wrestling and how we went from the carnivals to AEW and WWE on Netflix and Max! Resources Tim Hornbaker: National Wrestling Alliance Keith Elliot Greenberg: Too Sweet Jim Wilson: Choke Hold https://web.archive.org/web/20220218164234/https://buffalonews.com/news/pedro-martinez-famed-buffalo-wrestling-promoter-dies/article_b6f6b5d6-6b7a-5463-bc42-fa599e7dee37.html https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/PedroMartinez.html https://www.legacyofwrestling.com/NYBookingOffice.html https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=278011 https://www.nyprowrestling.com/articles/results/19540215msg.html Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    19 min
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From the Intergalactic Sports Network and Ember Media we bring you a new look at wrestling history! Join us for deep dives into the subjects, humans, and matches that have built pro wrestling beyond what we see every week! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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