How do you find joy when your soul feels empty? Kristi Clover shares her experience at her father's bedside and the unexpected peace that found her in grief. Zan and Kristi discuss practical strategies for navigating depression, the importance of having a "safe person," and why simplifying your homeschool during difficult seasons isn't failure. Their honest conversation reminds us that true joy isn't an emotion—it's a divine gift from God that shines even through our tears.

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