In the Deep with Catherine Ingram Catherine Ingram

This podcast has provided great insight during these trying and uncertain times. Thank you!

Catherine Ingram’s podcasts are a treasure. Her guidance is grounded in reality and warmly heart centered, without any religiosity or artificial “positive thinking”. The in-depth questions and comments by those who participate in the dialogues lead to conversations that are sincere, personal, and moving. I look forward to each podcast as if to a gathering with friends.

Like therapy, this podcast is a conversation with a trusted, disinterested guide. But conversation that steers one away from the “big story of me,” as Catherine calls it. Some days I need reminding that living can be less difficult. Catherine encourages us to keep in touch with the depths. “Hanging out in the deep,” as Catherine calls it. No framework or dogma. She finds a humble way to communicate this that makes perfect sense: open access to joy is effortlessly always with us. Seems like a preposterous idea in moments, with things so complicated, and then I sit and listen to one of these (or, more often, I listen as I drive to work), and the wisdom sinks down like a stone in a pool. Of course! Years of striving are not necessary. Self-deprivation also not necessary. Look: there is beauty! Look: you are breathing! Look: you can walk without pain! There are people who “get” you! You can eat this delicious fruit! You can flirt with that baby! So freeing. And there is a salutary effect to listening: more oxygen, more health, or simply the strength to go on. “Kiss the joy as it flies, “ said William Blake, and Catherine often reminds us of this directive, while also acknowledging the wretchedness that humans have wrought on earth. Beautifully spoken, highly intelligent, generous with her own life experiences, kind and deft with her interlocutors, Catherine sets a strong example of compassion. Listen to this podcast, friends!