Artificiality: Minds Meeting Machines

Helen and Dave Edwards
Artificiality: Minds Meeting Machines

Artificiality was founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence. We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We publish essays, podcasts, and research on AI including a Pro membership, providing advanced research to leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI. Learn more at www.artificiality.world.

  1. HÁ 4 DIAS

    Maggie Jackson: Embracing Uncertainty

    In this episode, we welcome Maggie Jackson, whose latest book, Uncertain, has become essential reading for navigating today’s complex world. Known for her groundbreaking work on attention and distraction, Maggie now turns her focus to uncertainty—not as a problem to be solved, but as a skill to be cultivated. Note: Uncertain won an Artificiality Book Award in 2024—check out our review here: https://www.artificiality.world/artificiality-book-awards-2024/ In the interview, we explore the neuroscience of uncertainty, the cultural biases that make us crave certainty, and why our discomfort with the unknown may be holding us back. Maggie unpacks the two core types of uncertainty—what we can’t know and what we don’t yet know—and explains why understanding this distinction is crucial for thinking well in the digital age. Our conversation also explores the implications of AI—as technology increasingly mediates our reality, how do we remain critical thinkers? How do we resist the illusion of certainty in a world of algorithmically generated answers Maggie’s insights challenge us to reframe uncertainty—not as fear, but as an opportunity for discovery, adaptability, and even creativity. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by ambiguity or pressured to always have the “right” answer, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on why being uncertain might be one of our greatest human strengths. Links: Maggie: https://www.maggie-jackson.com/Uncertain: https://www.prometheusbooks.com/9781633889194/uncertain/ Do you enjoy our conversations like this one? Then subscribe on your favorite platform, subscribe to our emails (free) at Artificiality.world, and check out the Artificiality Summit—our mind-expanding retreat in Bend, Oregon at Artificiality.world/summit. Thanks again to Jonathan Coulton for our music.

    1h

  2. HÁ 6 DIAS

    Greg Epstein: Tech Agnostic

    In this episode, we talk with Greg Epstein—humanist chaplain at Harvard and MIT, bestselling author, and a leading voice on the intersection of technology, ethics, and belief systems. Greg’s latest book, Tech Agnostic, offers a provocative argument: Silicon Valley isn’t just a powerful industry—it has become the dominant religion of our time. Note: Tech Agnostic won an Artificality Book Award in 2024—check out our review here. In this interview, we explore the deep parallels between big tech and organized religion, from sacred texts and prophets to digital congregations and AI-driven eschatology. The conversation explores digital Puritanism, the "unwitting worshipers" of tech's altars, and the theological implications of AI doomerism. But this isn’t just a critique—it’s a call for a Reformation. Greg lays out a path toward a more humane and ethical future for technology, one that resists unchecked power and prioritizes human values over digital dogma. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on faith, fear, and the future of being human in an age where technology defines what we believe in. Do you enjoy our conversations like this one? Then subscribe on your favorite platform, subscribe to our emails (free) at Artificiality.world, and check out the Artificiality Summit—our mind-expanding retreat in Bend, Oregon at Artificiality.world/summit. Thanks again to Jonathan Coulton for our music.

    59min

  3. 28 DE FEV.

    Chris Messina: Reimagining AI

    In this episode, we sit down with the ever-innovative Chris Messina—creator of the hashtag, top product hunter on Product Hunt, and trusted advisor to startups navigating product development and market strategy. Recording from Ciel Media’s new studio in Berkeley, we explore the evolving landscape of generative AI and the widening gap between its immense potential and real-world usability. Chris introduces a compelling framework, distinguishing AI as a *tool* versus a *medium*, which helps explain the stark divide in how different users engage with these technologies. Our conversation examines key challenges: How do we build trust in AI? Why is transparency in computational reasoning critical? And how might community collaboration shape the next generation of AI products? Drawing from his deep experience in social media and emerging tech, Chris offers striking parallels between early internet adoption and today’s AI revolution, suggesting that meaningful integration will require both time and a generational shift in thinking. What makes this discussion particularly valuable is Chris’s vision for the future of AI interaction—where technology moves beyond query-response models to become a truly collaborative medium, transforming how we create, problem-solve, and communicate. Links: Chris: https://chrismessina.me Ciel Media: https://cielcreativespace.com

    53min

  4. 27 DE FEV.

    D. Graham Burnett: Attention and much more...

    D. Graham Burnett will tell you his day job is as a professor of science history at Princeton University. He is also co-founder of the Strother School of Radical Attention and has been associated with the Friends of Attention since 2018. But none of those positions adequately describe Graham. His bio says that he “works at the intersection of historical inquiry and artistic practice.” He writes, he performs, he makes things. He describes himself as an attention activist. Perhaps most importantly for us, Graham helps you see the world differently—and more clearly. Graham has powerful views on the effect of technology on our attention. We often riff on his idea that technology has fracked our attention into little commoditizable bits. His work has highly influenced our concern about what might happen if the same extractive practices of the attention economy are applied to the future AI-powered intimacy economy. We were thrilled to have Graham on the pod for a wide ranging conversation about attention, intimacy, and much more. Links: https://dgrahamburnett.net https://www.schoolofattention.org https://www.friendsofattention.net --- If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds. Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email: https://www.artificiality.world Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music.

    1h12min

  5. 5 DE FEV.

    Michael Levin—The Future of Intelligence: Synthbiosis

    At the Artificiality Summit 2024, Michael Levin, distinguished professor of biology at Tufts University and associate at Harvard's Wyss Institute, gave a lecture about the emerging field of diverse intelligence and his frameworks for recognizing and communicating with the unconventional intelligence of cells, tissues, and biological robots. This work has led to new approaches to regenerative medicine, cancer, and bioengineering, but also to new ways to understand evolution and embodied minds. He sketched out a space of possibilities—freedom of embodiment—which facilitates imagining a hopeful future of "synthbiosis", in which AI is just one of a wide range of new bodies and minds. Bio: Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor in the Biology department and Vannevar Bush Chair, serves as director of the Tufts Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology. Recent honors include the Scientist of Vision award and the Distinguished Scholar Award. His group's focus is on understanding the biophysical mechanisms that implement decision-making during complex pattern regulation, and harnessing endogenous bioelectric dynamics toward rational control of growth and form. The lab's current main directions are: - Understanding how somatic cells form bioelectrical networks for storing and recalling pattern memories that guide morphogenesis; - Creating next-generation AI tools for helping scientists understand top-down control of pattern regulation (a new bioinformatics of shape); and - Using these insights to enable new capabilities in regenerative medicine and engineering. www.artificiality.world/summit

    1h18min

  6. 28 DE JAN.

    Artificiality Keynote at the Imagining Summit 2024

    Our opening keynote from the Imagining Summit held in October 2024 in Bend, Oregon. Join us for the next Artificiality Summit on October 23-25, 2025! Read about the 2024 Summit here: https://www.artificiality.world/the-imagining-summit-we-imagined-and-hoped-and-we-cant-wait-for-next-year-2/ And join us for the 2025 Summit here: https://www.artificiality.world/summit/

    15min

  7. 28 DE JAN.

    DeepSeek: What Happened, What Matters, 
and Why It’s Interesting

    First: - Apologies for the audio! We had a production error… What’s new: - DeepSeek has created breakthroughs in both: How AI systems are trained (making it much more affordable) and how they run in real-world use (making them faster and more efficient) Details - FP8 Training: Working With Less Precise Numbers - Traditional AI training requires extremely precise numbers - DeepSeek found you can use less precise numbers (like rounding $10.857643 to $10.86) - Cut memory and computation needs significantly with minimal impact - Like teaching someone math using rounded numbers instead of carrying every decimal place - Learning from Other AIs (Distillation) - Traditional approach: AI learns everything from scratch by studying massive amounts of data - DeepSeek's approach: Use existing AI models as teachers - Like having experienced programmers mentor new developers: - Trial & Error Learning (for their R1 model) - Started with some basic "tutoring" from advanced models - Then let it practice solving problems on its own - When it found good solutions, these were fed back into training - Led to "Aha moments" where R1 discovered better ways to solve problems - Finally, polished its ability to explain its thinking clearly to humans - Smart Team Management (Mixture of Experts) - Instead of one massive system that does everything, built a team of specialists - Like running a software company with: - 256 specialists who focus on different areas - 1 generalist who helps with everything - Smart project manager who assigns work efficiently - For each task, only need 8 specialists plus the generalist - More efficient than having everyone work on everything - Efficient Memory Management (Multi-head Latent Attention) - Traditional AI is like keeping complete transcripts of every conversation - DeepSeek's approach is like taking smart meeting minutes - Captures key information in compressed format - Similar to how JPEG compresses images - Looking Ahead (Multi-Token Prediction) - Traditional AI reads one word at a time - DeepSeek looks ahead and predicts two words at once - Like a skilled reader who can read ahead while maintaining comprehension Why This Matters - Cost Revolution: Training costs of $5.6M (vs hundreds of millions) suggests a future where AI development isn't limited to tech giants. - Working Around Constraints: Shows how limitations can drive innovation—DeepSeek achieved state-of-the-art results without access to the most powerful chips (at least that’s the best conclusion at the moment). What’s Interesting - Efficiency vs Power: Challenges the assumption that advancing AI requires ever-increasing computing power - sometimes smarter engineering beats raw force. - Self-Teaching AI: R1's ability to develop reasoning capabilities through pure reinforcement learning suggests AIs can discover problem-solving methods on their own. - AI Teaching AI: The success of distillation shows how knowledge can be transferred between AI models, potentially leading to compounding improvements over time. - IP for Free: If DeepSeek can be such a fast follower through distillation, what’s the advantage of OpenAI, Google, or another company to release a novel model?

    26min

  8. 25 DE JAN.

    Hans Block & Moritz Riesewieck: Eternal You

    We’re excited to welcome writers and directors Hans Block and Moritz Riesewieck to the podcast. Their debut film, ‘The Cleaners,’ about the shadow industry of digital censorship premiered at the Sundance Film Festival in 2018 and has since won numerous international awards and been screened at more than 70 international film festivals. We invited Hans and Moritz to the podcast to talk about their latest film, Eternal You, which examines the story of people who live on as digital replicants—and the people who keep them living on. We found the film to be quite powerful. At times inspiring and at others disturbing and distressing. Can a generative ghost help people through their grief or trap them in it? Is falling for a digital replica healthy or harmful? Are the companies creating these technologies benefitting their users or extracting from them? Eternal You is a powerful and important film. We highly recommend taking the time to watch it—and allowing for time to digest and consider. Hans and Moritz have done a brilliant job exploring a challenging and delicate topic with kindness and care. Bravo. ------------ If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds. Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music

    45min
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Artificiality was founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence. We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We publish essays, podcasts, and research on AI including a Pro membership, providing advanced research to leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI. Learn more at www.artificiality.world.

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