21 episodes

Lenny Rachitsky interviews world-class product leaders and growth experts to uncover concrete, actionable, and tactical advice to help you build, launch, and grow your own product.

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    • 4.9 • 400 Ratings

Lenny Rachitsky interviews world-class product leaders and growth experts to uncover concrete, actionable, and tactical advice to help you build, launch, and grow your own product.

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    The rituals of great teams | Shishir Mehrotra of Coda, YouTube, Microsoft

    The rituals of great teams | Shishir Mehrotra of Coda, YouTube, Microsoft

    Shishir Mehrotra is the co-founder and CEO of Coda, and formerly head of product and engineering at YouTube. In this episode, he shares his insights on growth strategy, how he evaluates talent, a peek at his upcoming book The Rituals of Great Teams, why reference checks are the most important step in the interview process, and so much more. Join us.

    Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Google, Overcast, Pocket Casts, and YouTube.



    Where to find Shishir Mehrotra:

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/shishirmehrotra

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shishirmehrotra/



    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/



    Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:

    • Coda: http://coda.io/lenny

    • Flatfile: https://www.flatfile.com/lenny

    • Eppo: https://www.geteppo.com/



    Referenced:

    • The Rituals of Great Teams Braintrust: https://coda.io/@shishir/join-the-rituals-of-great-teams-braintrust

    • Bing Gordon: https://www.kleinerperkins.com/people/bing-gordon/

    • Switch by Chip Heath and Dan Heath: https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Change-Things-When-Hard/dp/0385528752

    • PSHE diagram: https://coda.io/@shishir/pshe

    • Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud: https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Comics-Invisible-Scott-McCloud/dp/1627652736

    • Only Murders in the Building: https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-building-ef31c7e1-cd0f-4e07-848d-1cbfedb50ddf

    • WandaVision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WandaVision

    • Fidji Simo: https://twitter.com/fidjissimo

    • Daniel Ek: https://twitter.com/eldsjal/

    • Reid Hoffman: https://twitter.com/reidhoffman?

    • Mamoon Hamid: https://twitter.com/mamoonha

    • Quentin Clark: https://twitter.com/quentinclark

    • Sarah Guo: https://twitter.com/saranormous



    In this episode, we cover:

    [4:13] Shishir’s background at Google and current role at Coda

    [7:53] How Shishir got on the board of Spotify

    [8:58] Black loops and blue loops and how Coda uses this internal diagram 

    [9:52] The black loop is how a product is naturally shared

    [12:15] The blue loop is the emotional loop on why products are shared

    [14:55] Why you should think in loops instead of funnels

    [18:20] Mining for your business’s loops by looking at what you tell job candidates

    [24:37] Shishir’s upcoming book The Rituals of Great Teams 

    [26:30] The 3 golden rituals of teams

    [27:10] Coda’s golden ritual: Dory and Pulse

    [31:29] Shishir’s most impactful rituals: Arianna Huffington’s reset, Gusto’s incredible hiring call, and Coinbase’s Rapids

    [40:38] How you find your own team’s rituals

    [42:50] How to change things when change is hard

    [45:01] Airbnb’s unique rituals

    [46:45] A backstory on YouTube, and valuing consistency over comprehensiveness

    [53:00] Eigenquestions: What they are, how to use them, and examples

    [59:05] One of Shishir’s favorite retired interview questions 

    [1:03:11] How to evaluate talent, a story about YouTube, and breaking down PSHE

    [1:15:20] How to approach reference checks and what questions to ask

    [1:24:33] Favorite books

    [1:25:50] Favorite TV shows and movies

    [1:26:50] Favorite interview questions

    [1:28:44] Who in the industry Shishir respects as a thought leader

    [1:30:10] His go-to karaoke song

    [1:30:40] Where you can find Shishir



    Production and marketing: https://penname.co/

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    • 1 hr 31 min
    How to launch and grow your product | Ryan Hoover of Product Hunt and Weekend Fund

    How to launch and grow your product | Ryan Hoover of Product Hunt and Weekend Fund

    Thousands of new products launch each year, but very few make it. Ryan Hoover has seen thousands of products launched over the course of his time running Product Hunt, and through his investing, and in this episode you’ll hear what Ryan has learned about launching products, growing products, and raising capital. Plus, we play a made up game called “What would you rather upvote?” Join us.

    Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:
    • RevenueCat: https://www.revenuecat.com/
    • Flatfile: https://www.flatfile.com/lenny
    • Lenny’s Giveaway Bonanza: https://lennyspodcast.com/bonanza

    Where to find Ryan Hoover:
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/rrhoover
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanrhoover/
    • Website: https://www.ryanhoover.me/

    Where to find Lenny:
    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:
    [03:23] On being a tech celebrity 
    [09:02] Using Twitter DM’s as a content machine
    [11:15] The questions most founders ask 
    [14:48] When should you start a company?
    [18:28] Would Ryan raise money for Product Hunt if he could do it again?
    [21:48] When should companies launch products?
    [24:52] What makes a launch successful versus not?
    [26:27] How to get to the top of Product Hunt
    [30:01] What skill is most helpful for moving into investing and venture capital?
    [31:39] What Ryan would do differently if he could re-build Product Hunt
    [38:57] What matters most in life
    [43:13] Which ideas Ryan would upvote
    [48:05] What founders of consumer companies do to succeed
    [55:33] Deciding to serve a niche or broad market
    [58:03] The surprising parts of angel investing
    [1:02:12] Advice for folks wanting to get into angel investing


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    • 1 hr 9 min
    How to own your career growth and become a powerful product leader | Deb Liu, Ancestry (ex-Facebook, PayPal)

    How to own your career growth and become a powerful product leader | Deb Liu, Ancestry (ex-Facebook, PayPal)

    Do you put as much time into your career planning as you do into your product planning? Deb Liu has had an extraordinary career path, from Ebay and PayPal, to Facebook, and now Ancestry. She’s sat in on, mentored, and managed hundreds of product managers. In this episode, she shares poignant advice on how to intentionally find growth opportunities and drive your career forward. Join us.



    Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:

    • Flatfile: https://www.flatfile.com/lenny

    • Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/

    • Makelog: https://www.makelog.com/lenny



    Where to find Deb Liu:

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/debliu_

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu/

    • Substack: https://debliu.substack.com/



    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/



    Referenced:

    • Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work (Deb’s Book): https://www.amazon.com/Take-Back-Your-Power-Rules/dp/031036485X

    • How To Change Your Life Through Resolutions: https://debliu.substack.com/p/resolve-to-progress



    In this episode, we cover:

    [04:32] What it was like when eBay acquired PayPal

    [07:31] Quirky culture clashes as the companies merged

    [09:46] How incentives drive employee behavior

    [14:43] How Deb took on a product management role at a young age

    [17:51] PayPal’s hiring strategy for early growth

    [20:03] How to succeed as an introverted leader

    [25:29] What sets successful Product Managers apart from one’s who plateau

    [27:09] Specific tactics for unlocking growth in your Product Management career

    [32:06] How to find and create mentorship circles

    [36:30] The most important skill for early Product Managers to focus on

    [43:58] How to grow your confidence in communication

    [46:55] Deb’s upcoming book "Take Back Your Power"

    [50:35] One tactical tip from Deb’s upcoming book on how to improve your Product Management

    [52:09] How to get involved with Women In Product

    [57:11] How companies can recruit more diverse Product Managers

    [1:00:04] How Deb built Facebook marketplace from scratch

    [1:06:03] The blessing and curse of gaining a lot of users quickly

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    • 1 hr 11 min
    How to scrappily hire for, measure, and unlock growth | Crystal Widjaja, Gojek and Kumu

    How to scrappily hire for, measure, and unlock growth | Crystal Widjaja, Gojek and Kumu

    You don’t need lots of employees to achieve impressive growth—but you do need a unique approach to hiring and structuring your team, and accurately measuring your growth efforts. Crystal Widjaja has used scrappy tactics to unlock massive success for Gojek (a wildly successful ride-share app in South East Asia) and is currently the Chief Product Officer at Kumu. In this episode, she shares the exact strategies she’s used as a product leader to hack growth, hire the best, and perfect data collection. Join us.



    Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:

    • Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/

    • Flatfile: https://www.flatfile.com/lenny

    • Eppo: https://www.geteppo.com/



    Where to find Crystal:

    • Website: https://www.crissyw.com/

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/crystalwidjaja

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalwidjaja/



    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/



    Referenced:

    • Generation Girl: https://www.generationgirl.org/

    • Experiment Design Question Example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tSrEGpvg19OMKrRg45HGvsZBGz8BkeVc/edit#gid=1841057518



    In this episode, we cover:

    [00:00] Crystal’s path to product

    [09:40] How Crystal decided to join a risky startup 

    [11:31] Why haven’t super apps emerged in the U.S.? 

    [13:15] What startups in the U.S. can learn from companies in Asia

    [16:35] How to get intentionally scrappier in your organization

    [18:28] How to get and utilize scrappy and small data sets 

    [21:26] How to increase retention

    [22:28] What does and doesn’t work in growth?

    [25:01] The conversion rates Crytsal looks for to determine viability and success

    [28:03] How founders should think about approaching growth

    [32:44] Figuring out how to grow and the resources you have at your disposal

    [34:53] Optimizing the funnel to make growth happen faster

    [37:40] Crystal’s biggest lessons on unlocking growth

    [40:07] Why most analytics efforts fail and how to avoid failure

    [44:24] Signs your organization is getting analytics wrong

    [46:17] The best resources for figuring out how to do analytics right

    [47:05] Crystal’s recommendations for metric tracking stacks.

    [48:37] How you should set up your growth team originally

    [51:38] Integrating growth teams or separating them?

    [52:43] Who should be the first growth hire?

    [53:55] How to hire a great growth person for your organization

    [56:55] How to help women and young girls get into STEM (a non-profit that you started)

    [1:02:07] Where to reach Crystal

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    • 1 hr 3 min
    How to create a winning product strategy | Melissa Perri

    How to create a winning product strategy | Melissa Perri

    Every company wants to develop a winning strategy—but what are signs your strategy isn’t working, and how do you change course? Melissa Perri has worked trained PMs and product leaders at nearly all the Fortune 100 companies, and in this conversation shares how to reset a struggling strategy, align your team, and build winning strategy. Join us.



    Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:

    • Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/

    • RevenueCat: https://www.revenuecat.com/

    • Makelog: https://www.makelog.com/lenny



    Where to find Melissa:

    • Website: https://melissaperri.com/

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lissijean

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissajeanperri/



    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/



    Referenced:

    • Melissa’s Book: https://melissaperri.com/book



    In this episode, we cover:

    [00:00] What to expect with guest Melissa Perri

    [02:57] Melissa’s incredibly vast experience working with product manager’s 

    [04:20] Melissa’s current focus: training and education of PM’s

    [05:59] The most common problems that product teams face

    [09:48] When to hire your first CPO

    [14:27] What to do before hiring a CPO

    [16:16] When to bring an interim CPO consultant like Melissa

    [21:26] Signs your team doesn’t have a strategy

    [22:59] Identifying your vision, strategy and intentions as a company

    [27:48] Signs you’re doing a bad job as a PM

    [30:30] The process of defining strategic visions

    [33:28] How to hone your craft as a PM

    [43:55] Melissa’s Book — Escaping the Build Trap: How Effective Product Management Creates Real Value 

    [48:43] How to avoid burnout 

    [52:19] Where to find Melissa

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    • 53 min
    How to unlock your product leadership skills | Ken Norton, Ex-Google

    How to unlock your product leadership skills | Ken Norton, Ex-Google

    Advancing as a product leader requires new skills and a new mindset. Ken Norton is an executive coach who works with some of the top people in product to help them get unstuck and find creativity again in their approach to problems and their careers. After 14 years as a Product Manager at Google, Ken brings deep experience in leadership and shares with us the lessons he most often offers his clients to unlock growth. Join us.



    Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:

    • Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/

    • Lenny’s Job Board: https://www.lennysjobs.com/talent

    • Unit: https://unit.co/lenny



    Where to find Ken Norton:

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/kennethn

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethnorton/

    • Product Leadership Coaching: https://www.bringthedonuts.com/coaching/



    Where to find Lenny:

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/



    Books and Resources Recommended By Ken:

    • Dare To Lead by Brene Brown 
    • 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership
    • Mastering Leadership by Bob Anderson
    • Immunity to Change by Robert Kegan
    • Stop Telling Women They Have Imposter Syndrome
    • Innovator’s Dilemma by Clayton Christensen 



    In this episode, learn:

    [00:00] What to expect in this episode with Ken Norton
    [03:10] Why Ken will never get tired of donuts
    [05:05] Ken’s career path and what he does with executive coaching now
    [08:00] What Ken learned from his own executive coach
    [12:02] Driving a car and the metaphor of learning a new skill
    [16:20] How Ken’s helping leaders shift their mindset
    [19:41] Creative vs reactive leadership mindset
    [22:15] How your underlying beliefs impact your leadership style
    [33:50] Mindset and authenticity and their role within leadership
    [39:00] What you can do if you can’t spend a lot on coaching
    [42:05] Resources Ken recommends (linked in notes)
    [44:22] Biggest blindspots people have
    [48:10] Why doing the hard thing, may be the best thing
    [49:20] What to do with imposter syndrome
    [58:40] Ways to find a coach
    [1:01:03] 10x vs 10%
    [1:05:35] Ken’s one piece of advice for hiring a product manager
    [1:13:00] How to find Ken

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    • 1 hr 14 min

Customer Reviews

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400 Ratings

400 Ratings

ellylin333 ,

Are you even a PM if you don’t listen to Lenny’s Podcasts?

Learning so much with each episode. Lenny creates the best content!

CryptFRO77 ,

Very informative content!

These Pods are full of great information for anyone that is building a business, launching a new product, running a team or just wants to improve upon themselves or attempting to build something valuable in the world.

Gaurav2020 ,

Insightful

Love listening to Lenny and his guests, so much rich information

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