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How did your favorite Linux distribution get its start? Join us and find out!
Linux User Space is hosted by Leo and Dan, and every two weeks we deep dive into the history of Linux distributions and the things that matter to us.
Episodes drop every other Monday.

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How did your favorite Linux distribution get its start? Join us and find out!
Linux User Space is hosted by Leo and Dan, and every two weeks we deep dive into the history of Linux distributions and the things that matter to us.
Episodes drop every other Monday.

    Episode 4:13: Passion with Compassion

    Episode 4:13: Passion with Compassion

    Coming up in this episode



    We add to the KDE saga
    We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet
    We pour over the Feedback
    We focus on the Gentoo feedback


    The Video Version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0


    Timestamps
    0:00 Cold Open
    1:30 The KDE AMA
    7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0
    19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu
    24:47 There Be Humans Out There
    40:07 Reverb Focus!



    41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)
    49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don't Ya?!)
    55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome)
    1:04:15 The Care & Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan)
    1:15:51 Next Time!
    1:20:32 Stinger


    🔥Warm up🔥


    There was an KDE AMA on Lemmy and on Reddit
    Troy Unrau, a KDE dev, on the KDE History


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    There are humans on the other end of that Internet


    This conversation was sparked from this Tweet
    Linus gets passionate sometimes


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    Reverb Focus

    Douglas Paul


    Douglas does his own 12 step distro hop program.
    Gnome, Fedora, with Extensions and Albert is the landing spot... at least for now.


    Bruce Hankins on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11)


    Two categories of users, average users and power users.
    Average users don't really tinker.
    Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.
    Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.


    Jayden on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion


    Gnome with gestures and multi-touch are great.
    A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - Xournal++ and Rnote


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    Gentoo Focus


    Kerneltux sent in his "care and feeding" notes for Gentoo. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming livestream.


    🔭Next Time🔭

    We plan to explore and provide the history of Mate Desktop Environment.


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    Episode 4:12: Keep it Kool

    Episode 4:12: Keep it Kool

    Coming up in this episode



    Notating the Notes
    The History of KDE
    And Plasma, Straight from the Tap


    Timestamps
    0:00 Cold Open
    1:44 A Note on Notes
    22:52 The History of KDE
    28:29 History: KDE 1
    30:42 History: KDE 2
    33:03 History: KDE 3
    36:21 History: KDE 4
    45:36 History: Plasma 5
    51:34 History: Plasma 6
    53:17 Plasma 6 Raw (hide)
    1:20:49 Next Time: Topics, then MATE
    1:27:37 Stinger


    Watch the video
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    🔥Warm Up🔥


    Leo hits the books and learns about reference style links in markdown. Thanks go to Dominic and Furicle.
    Eric mentioned MarkText and now the squirrels have Dan chasing that.
    Leo tries settling on Vivaldi Notes.


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    The History of KDE


    The email on October 14, 1996 to start it all.
    KDE ONE
    K Desktop Environment first real beta release.
    Beta 1 Screenshots
    KDE 1.0 was released on July 12, 1998.
    1998 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
    KFM turned into Konqueror.
    Konqi
    KDE 2.0
    KDE 2.1
    In April of 2002, KDE 3.0 was released.
    2003 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
    2004 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
    KDE Community World Summit 2004 "aKademy".
    2005 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
    April 8, 2005 Kubuntu.
    KDE 3.5
    KDE Four Core Meeting
    KDE 4
    Oxygen
    2008 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
    KDE hit the 1,000,000 commit
    Starting from 4.3.4, is a "software compilation".
    November 2009, K Desktop Environment is just KDE, now.
    Fork of KDE 3.5 becomes Trinity Desktop Environment.
    KDE SC 4.5.
    October 2010, an official split from KOffice
    Plasma Active
    KDE Manifesto
    December 2012, a redesigned Konqi.
    KDE release structure changed.
    KDE SC 4.14 the last in the series.
    Plasma 5 and Frameworks 5
    2015 Wayland enters the room.
    Plasma Mobile
    Plasma Bigscreen
    KDE Neon
    Slimbook
    KDE Plasma is chosen for the Steam Deck when in Desktop Mode!
    The development and chat platforms move to Gitlab and Matrix.
    The first release candidate for Plasma 6
    Plasma 6's release date is planned for February 28th of 2024.


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    Episode 4:11: Why Don't You Use Linux?

    Episode 4:11: Why Don't You Use Linux?

    Coming up in this episode



    The Linux Desktop is the best!
    There are humans on the other end of the Internet.
    We do some Browser spectating.
    Gentoo loses its mind.


    0:00 Cold Open
    1:43 Why Not Linux?
    25:39 Browser Watch!
    55:47 Reverb Focus
    1:10:18 Community Focus: DB Tech
    1:15:03 Gentoo Focus
    1:24:26 Next Time: KDE History
    1:26:31 Stinger


    Watch the video version:
    https://youtu.be/P6irQ0xyv-U


    So, why don't you use Linux?


    The Mastodon post that sparked our conversation.
    It also got posted to Reddit and this was one reply 🚨Warning NSFW language🚨


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    Browser Watch


    Firefox 120 came with some great new features.
    Firefox 121 got Wayland by default with a fallback to XWayland
    Vivaldi 6.5 introduces the Sessions Panel, improved syncing, and improved notes.


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    Reverb Focus

    Ian


    Don't forget about Enlightenment which had a recent release.


    Vidar


    Big thanks for binging all the back episodes, we hope you stay tuned for more. We might make it to a BSD episode someday.


    Zgembo121


    Too many Gnome extensions is too much. Vanilla is the way.


    Spacelem


    Started with Gnome 2.4 then jumped to Cinnamon. Gnome is really different from other desktop environments.


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    Community Focus - DB Tech


    DB Tech Links
    DB Tech Web Site
    DB Tech YouTube


    Gentoo Focus


    Last time on LUS Streaming Live


    FYI we do these live on Twitch the day after an episode is released.

    Gentoo Going Binary Thanks Bikhu for the reminder


    Next Time

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    Episode 4:10: GNOME in the Home

    Episode 4:10: GNOME in the Home

    Coming up in this episode



    The Browser Watch Leftovers
    The History of GNOME
    And Why Gnome is the best desktop
    And a little holiday break


    Timestamps
    0:00 Cold Open
    1:29 Riding the Lightning
    16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME
    23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x
    25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x
    33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x
    41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond
    48:01 How'd GNOME Go?
    1:15:39 Next Time: Topics & KDE
    1:26:18 Stinger


    Watch the Video!
    https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro


    Mini Browser Watch


    October 30, Mozilla announces the nightly Deb packages
    November 30, Mozilla announces the developer and beta Deb packages


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    The History of Gnome


    The email in 1997 to start it all
    Development snapshot 0.13 announcement
    GNOME 1.0 release
    GUADEC
    GNOME OG website
    GNOME revamped website
    HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they would be using GNOME as their default desktops.
    GNOME Foundation
    GNOME 2.0 release
    Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8
    GNOME no longer part of GNU
    GNOME was no longer an acronym.
    Gnome 3.0 arrives
    Linus Torvalds noted
    Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but noted that
    Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... GNOME.
    Again, the target of litigation
    Rothschild Patent Imaging was stripped of its patent rights
    Gnome 40
    The Gnome 40 announcement
    The Gnome 45 announcement
    Original GNOME introduction (~99)
    The Evolution of the GNOME Project
    Using GNOME gmc (GNOME Midnight Commander)
    "A Brief History of GNOME" Presentation Notes
    "A Brief History of GNOME" Video
    GNOME 2.0 - 40 Release Notes


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    Next Time

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    We are taking a mini-holiday 🎄 pause, we will see you in the new year. ☃️ We wish you a happy holiday season! ❄️


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    • 1 hr 27 min
    Episode 4:09: Giddy Up

    Episode 4:09: Giddy Up

    Coming up in this episode



    Leo makes me a LUSsh 🍻
    Official standings for a browser
    We strum some reverberations
    Focus on the HQ
    Focus on the sounds
    Forecast the future


    Watch the video!
    https://youtu.be/-b1gHt0v4q8


    Timestamps
    0:00 Cold Open
    2:05 Go to lus.sh
    8:38 Fed Up with Ubuntu?
    14:20 * Forced Snaps
    21:24 * Ads in the Terminal
    27:00 * Telemetry?!
    29:42 * Ubuntu is Anti-Freedom?
    32:21 * Maybe use Linux Mint
    34:43 Browser Watch
    34:57 * The Vivaldi Flatpak
    39:49 * Vivaldi on iOS
    42:54 * iOS May Go WebKit Free
    47:53 Reverb Focus
    48:05 * Ian
    53:13 * Dan!
    58:26 * TeamLinux01
    1:03:16 Community Focus: SteamDeckHQ
    1:10:54 Gentoo Focus #5
    1:23:46 Next Time: Gnome History
    1:26:54 Stinger


    lus.sh


    .sh is a common Shell Script file extension
    .sh is the first two letters in "show" like its bigger domain name brother
    .sh is also the first two letters in "short"


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    Why Do We Still Use Ubuntu?


    TLDR we(Leo and Dan) don't mind some of the choices Ubuntu has made but we can appreciate that there are good alternatives for those that want to go a different way.


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    Browser Watch!

    Vivaldi on Flatpak is Officially Unofficial


    Vivaldi Flatpak on Flathub
    OMGUbuntu coverage


    Vivaldi is also on iOS


    Vivaldi is on iOS
    It has great features
    The Chromium devs are developing a Blink version for iOS
    Firefox devs are developing a Gecko version for iOS


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    Reverb Focus

    Ian comments on YouTube about Ed


    You can see the comments on this video


    Dan commented about Xfce history, Manjaro and KDE Plasma


    You can watch our Xfce history on YouTube Or TILvids


    TeamLinux01 wants to hear about Valve's Linux journey


    Thanks for the feedback. I think this might just be the push we needed to look into the history of Steam and Linux. We're both big fans so it makes sense.


    Community Focus - Steamdeck HQ


    Main Website - Steamdeck HQ
    Steamdeck HQ YouTube channel
    Steamdeck HQ on Mastodon


    Gentoo Focus


    Last time on LUS Streaming Live


    FYI we do these live on Twitch the day after an episode is released.



    Next Time

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    • 1 hr 27 min
    Episode 4:08: Cholesterol Free

    Episode 4:08: Cholesterol Free

    Coming up in this episode



    A little Musing on CDE
    A few answers from the man himself
    The history of XFce
    How it went
    And a new journey


    0:00 Cold Open
    1:29 Ask Olivier
    20:04 Xfce History: In the Beginning (1996)
    22:08 Enter XFce (1997)
    24:47 The XForms Problem (1998)
    25:56 The Third (1999)
    29:32 The Fourth (2001-2015)
    32:59 The Third, Again (2016-2023)
    36:22 More Questions!
    45:50 How'd Xfce Go?
    1:02:25 Next Time
    1:09:45 Stinger


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    The History of Xfce


    Olivier Fourdan posted a question to a few newsgroups that got things started.
    XForms toolkit
    An early release announcement - 2.3.0
    Changelog for 2.4.0 which shows changes all the way back to the beginning.
    XFce 2.4 User Guide
    XFce 3.2 User Guide
    2000 Interview - 10 Questions with Olivier Fourdan
    2001 Interview
    XFce 4.0 announcement September 25th 2003
    xfce goes all lowercase
    2007 Interview
    2009 Linux Journal Interview
    2009 Slashgear Interview
    2017 Interview with Sean Davis
    Xfce 4.4 - 4.18


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    • 1 hr 10 min

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