Scrappy ABM

Mason Cosby

Welcome to Scrappy ABM – your source for groundbreaking approaches to ABM that don't break the bank. ABM shouldn't cost $200K in technology to even get started. If you want to get started with ABM or make your program better without a massive budget, you're in the right place. Each week, you'll hear from some of the brightest minds in the marketing world who are redefining ABM, achieving incredible results with untraditional methods, limited resources, and a whole lot of creativity. This isn't a show about how much you can spend on fancy tech or overhyped tools. Instead, it's about celebrating creative problem-solving and the scrappiness it takes to get ABM right. We'll dive into how these marketing leaders built robust ABM strategies with limited resources, revealing the actionable insights that led to their biggest wins. So, if you're a marketer ready to challenge the status quo, or an entrepreneur looking to scale your business through efficient and effective marketing strategies, Scrappy ABM is the show for you. Get ready to discover ABM strategies that are lean, impactful, and utterly transformative. Remember, it's not about the budget, it's about the mindset. Let's get scrappy!

  1. 1D AGO

    Why the "Book a Call" Page Has Never Worked Well | Ep. 257

    If you are struggling to make your revenue results highly repeatable, you need a simple system to ensure you cover all your bases. In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby walks through the "4D framework" that has helped generate a hundred million in revenue over the past three years. ㅤ Mason breaks down the four critical components of every successful program: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction. He explains why simply sending mass emails to a database fails to create nuanced messaging and how to align your outreach triggers with the right people. You will learn why the standard "book a call" page is often the wrong destination for prospects and how to measure success based on where a buyer actually sits in their journey. ㅤ 📌 What We Cover The 4D framework: Data, Distribution, Destination, and DirectionDefining Data: Identifying your target list and the specific reasons for reaching outHow to create personalized messaging using triggers rather than mass blastsCategorizing Distribution: Direct channels (email, phone) vs. Indirect channels (ads, events)Destination strategy: Matching your landing page content to the prospect's problem or product interestWhy "book a call" is not always the right call to actionDirection: Aligning your measurement of success (engagement vs. meetings) with the goal of the channel ㅤ 🔗 Resources Mentioned Download the Program Template (ScrappyABM.com/plan)Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    5 min
  2. 4D AGO

    Lost on Where to Start With ABM? | Ep. 256

    Mason Cosby shares a webinar on finding a treasure trove of opportunities in closed-lost programs. If you are looking for a quick way to generate a pipeline right now, this is it. You have already spent money to acquire these accounts, built relationships, and uncovered real pain. Mason explains why 60 to 80 percent of closed-lost opportunities are lost for reasons that can change: budget, timing, and priorities. ㅤ This episode breaks down the 4 D framework: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction. Mason outlines a systematic approach to re-engagement rather than just reaching out when the pipeline is low. He walks through specific playbooks designed to address industry changes, overcome past objections, and engage missing personas in the buying committee. ㅤ What We Cover Defining ABM as a Revenue Strategy: Aligning marketing, sales, and customer success around shared target accounts that reflect your best customers.Why ABM Programs Fail: How a lack of sales marketing alignment, measurement difficulties, and undefined ownership stall progress.The 4D Framework: Using Data (targets and triggers), Distribution (channels), Destination (content), and Direction (measurement) to build repeatable processes.Vertical Specific Playbooks: Reactivating deals by addressing industry changes—like tariffs or regulations—that impact your target accounts.Objection-Based Playbooks: Creating campaigns that directly address and diffuse reasons for saying no, such as pricing, missing features, or status quo.Persona-Based Playbooks: Identifying deal cycles where key decision makers were missing or single-threaded, and re-engaging with a multi-threaded approach.Roles in Distribution: Why the Account Executive should lead outreach to known contacts while SDRs and Executives support with new contacts and alignment. ㅤ Resources Mentioned Scrappy ABM Plan TemplateABM in a Day WorkshopFathomHubSpotLinkedIn ㅤ Resources: Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies. Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM: Mason Cosby ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    1 hr
  3. FEB 26

    How to Spot Churn Before a Customer Leaves (with Putney Cloos from Bombora) | Ep. 255

    Mason Cosby connects with Putney Cloos, the Chief Marketing Officer at Bombora, to clarify exactly what intent data is and how revenue teams should use it. While many marketers view intent data strictly as a tool for sales prioritization, Putney argues that the use cases go much deeper. She explains the difference between first-party data collected from owned properties and third-party data gathered from across the web. ㅤ A major focus of the conversation is data provenance. Putney highlights a critical but often overlooked question: Does your data provider actually have the right to use the data they sell? She details how Bombora uses a proprietary tag within a data co-op to ensure consent is explicitly granted for intent tracking. ㅤ Mason and Putney also explore how to operationalize this data without buying a massive, all-in-one platform. They discuss the "unbundled" ABM stack, where data is ported directly into the tools teams already use, such as CRMs, CDPs, or advertising platforms like The Trade Desk and LinkedIn. ㅤ Guest Bio Putney Cloos is the Chief Marketing Officer at Bombora, where she leads marketing and communications to expand the company's "Data Co-op" and intent data solutions. She previously served as CMO at Cision, where she built the company's first account-level data strategy. Putney also spent nearly a decade at American Express, rising to Vice President of Commercial Demand Generation and creating Amex's first commercial demand-generation and ABM capabilities. She holds an AB from Harvard College and an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management. ㅤ What We Cover Defining intent data: Putney clarifies that intent is behavioral data showing when a company is actively researching a solution, distinct from static firmographic data.First-party vs. third-party signals: The difference between tracking known visitors on your own site versus capturing research behaviors across the broader B2B internet.The importance of data rights: Why marketers must ask if their provider has explicit consent to use data for intent purposes, rather than relying on repurposed bidstream data.Reducing customer churn: How customer success teams use intent signals to spot when current clients start researching competitors before the renewal conversation happens.Informing the product roadmap: Using search behavior to identify unmet market needs or features that prospects are actively seeking.The unbundled tech stack: How to deploy intent data directly into existing platforms like Salesforce, HubSpot, or programmatic ad exchanges without needing a standalone ABM platform.Start simple: Putney's advice to pick one specific use case—like sales prioritization—and master it before adding complexity. ㅤ Resources BomboraScrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM. ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    21 min
  4. FEB 23

    The Account Progression Model: From Awareness to Opportunity | Ep. 254

    Mason Cosby shares a conversation from the Growth & Conversions podcast with Meghana Bhate. The discussion centers on a practical scenario: launching an Account-Based Marketing program for a greenfield account with high annual contract value. ㅤ Mason breaks down the process, starting with targeting based on profitability and retention rather than just revenue. He explains how to map the buying committee by analyzing deal records and introduces the Account Progression Model. You will hear how to build awareness, validate existence, and move accounts through meaningful engagement using existing tools and content. ㅤ What We Cover Targeting based on profit: Why you must verify product-market fit and profitability before launching ABM to ensure you get more of your best customers.The Account Progression Model: A stage-by-stage breakdown from Awareness and Initial Engagement to MQA, SQA, and Opportunity.Parsable Case Study: How a manufacturing software company used an SAP integration and closed-lost opportunities to drive revenue in four months.ABM vs. Demand Gen: Understanding the difference between broad demand generation and finite, sales-supported account-based marketing.AI in ABM: Why you should use AI for data cleaning and segmentation before attempting to scale content or distribution.Sales alignment: How to identify the buying committee by associating contacts to deal records and reviewing call transcripts. ㅤ Resources Scrappy ABM Templates: Download the program planning templates mentioned in the episode.Scrappy ABM Newsletter: Sign up for unique content sent directly to your inbox.Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM. ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    44 min
  5. FEB 19

    The Simple Paid Ads Playbook That Fueled 5 Years of Growth (with Tony Bradberry from Grey Matter) | Ep. 253

    Most marketers follow a strict rule: never send paid traffic to a homepage. Tony Bradberry and the team at Grey Matter break that rule every day. Tony joins Mason Cosby to explain how a "problem-centric" homepage can actually outperform specific landing pages when the messaging is right. He argues that if your core message resonates with the buyer's problem, the homepage should be the best place to start. ㅤ They also discuss Grey Matter's evolution into a tech-enabled ABM approach. Tony breaks down their internal "Intelligent Dossier" tool, which automates research and generates custom landing pages for individual buyers. The conversation covers how to run broad high-intent search campaigns alongside surgical, data-driven ABM programs to drive sustainable growth. ㅤ Guest Bio Tony Bradberry is the Managing Director at Grey Matter, a customer acquisition agency based in Cincinnati, Ohio. With a background starting in inside sales and sales engineering, Tony applies an "engineering" mindset to B2B marketing. He helps technical and industrial companies modernize their go-to-market strategies by focusing on problem-solving rather than merely selling services. Under his leadership, Grey Matter has been recognized on the Inc. 5000 list for three consecutive years. ㅤ What We Cover Why Grey Matter sends paid ad traffic directly to their homepage instead of niche landing pages.The difference between transactional messaging and problem-centric messaging in B2B.How to use an "Intelligent Dossier" to automate account research and create buyer battle cards.Creating dynamic landing pages that automatically adapt content based on the viewer's persona (e.g., CEO vs. CFO).Integrating AI tools like HeyGen to scale personalized video outreach without losing authenticity.The importance of running high-intent search and ABM programs in parallel rather than choosing one over the other.Why data quality is the single most important factor when using AI to generate content. ㅤ Resources Mentioned Grey MatterGrey Matter Messaging Audit ToolScrappy ABMConnect with Mason Cosby on LinkedIn ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    19 min
  6. FEB 16

    Why You Don't Need New Tech to Start ABM (Live Session with Dreamdata) | Ep. 252

    Buying technology first to inform marketing strategy is a common mistake. This approach burns through the typical three-to-six-month grace period executives give for new initiatives. By the time the tech is implemented, there is no revenue to show, and the program gets cut. ㅤ Mason Cosby joins Andrea Coloma, Product Marketer at Dreamdata, for a live session on the Attributed podcast to discuss building repeatable account-based marketing plays. Mason explains why companies should prove ABM works using their current tooling before investing in expensive software. They discuss how to navigate the shift from lead generation to ABM over a 12-to-24-month timeframe without starting over completely. The discussion outlines specific frameworks for tracking account progression and activating playbooks that move best-fit customers through the pipeline. ㅤ What We Cover Why buying technology first creates a false sense of progress and wastes the initial grace window given by leadership.The five common problems that stall ABM programs: targeting issues, lack of leadership buy-in, sales and marketing misalignment, poor resourcing, and unclear measurement.Moving from the overwhelming idea of "I don't have an ABM program" to identifying specific problems to solve.The Account Progression Model: A framework for moving accounts from awareness to opportunity using intentional programming at every stage.The 4D Framework for activation playbooks: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction.A practical event playbook: Using data to target attendees and local accounts before, during, and after an event.Using a referral program as an ABM tactic: Offering a 2% discount in exchange for introductions to specific prospects on a target list.How to start sales and marketing alignment with just one to three sellers: specifically those who are engaged, on a PIP, or top performers. ㅤ Resources Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies. ScrappyABM.comConnect with Mason: Mason Cosby on LinkedInDreamdata: Dreamdata.ioAttributed Podcast: Attributed - A podcast by DreamdataConnect with Andrea: Andrea Coloma on LinkedIn ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    56 min
  7. FEB 12

    How to ABM-ify Customer Expansion After an Acquisition (with Kris Rudeegraap from Sendoso) | Ep. 251

    Sendoso has solidified its position as a leader in the direct mail space by acquiring competitors like Alyce and Postal. But acquiring a company is only the first step. The real challenge is retaining those customers and expanding the relationship. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Kris Rudeegraap, Co-CEO of Sendoso, to discuss the specific playbook they used to merge three platforms into one without alienating their user base. ㅤ Kris Rudeegraap details a strategy built on patience and data. Instead of forcing an immediate migration, Sendoso unified its data sources and focused on education. Kris explains why they waited up to two years to sunset the Alyce platform and how offering "warm welcomes" mattered more than immediate upsells. They also discuss a specific certification program that led to a significant jump in customer spend. This conversation breaks down how to manage consolidation while keeping both customers and employees happy. ㅤ Guest Bio Kris Rudeegraap is the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Sendoso, a leading Sending Platform designed to help revenue teams engage customers through direct mail and gifting. An alumnus of California State University, Chico, Kris spent over a decade in sales roles at companies like Talkdesk and Yapstone before founding Sendoso in 2016. His philosophy centers on the "pattern interrupt"—using physical items to break through digital noise. Under his leadership, Sendoso has raised significant capital and executed major strategic acquisitions, including Alyce and Postal.io, to consolidate the corporate gifting market. ㅤ What We Cover The First Step in Acquisition: Why unifying data sources and establishing a single CRM source of truth must happen before any sales outreach.Relationship First, Sales Second: How Sendoso used office hours, LinkedIn messages, and VIP warehouse tours to welcome new customers before discussing contracts.The Power of Certification: Kris Rudeegraap shares data showing that certified customers increased their spend on the platform by over 70%.Patient Migration Timelines: The strategic decision to keep the Alyce platform running for two years to allow customers to self-select when to switch.Leveraging Job Changes: How the team tracks users across Sendoso, Alyce, and Postal who move to new companies to drive new business.Win-Back Opportunities: Using combined data from closed-lost deals across multiple companies to triangulate why a deal was lost and how to win it back.Measuring Success: Why metrics like EBITDA, margin improvement, and employee Net Promoter Score (eNPS) are just as critical as revenue retention. ㅤ Resources Sendoso - The leading Sending Platform for revenue teams.Email Kris Rudeegraap - Connect directly with Kris.Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM. ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    24 min
  8. FEB 9

    The BAMFAM Method: Book A Meeting From A Meeting | Ep. 250

    Most companies treat events as a logo parade or a chance to walk the floor, relying on hope, dreams, and prayers to scan badges and make money later. Mason Cosby argues that if your event is not ROI positive before your plane takes off, you are doing events wrong. Events should be viewed as a relationship accelerator for existing connections rather than a place to blindly hope for new ones. ㅤ Mason breaks down a tactical plan to ensure every event generates a return. He outlines four core sections: pre-event preparation, event execution, follow-up, and speaking sessions. He explains how to identify exactly who is attending, how to book meetings before you arrive, and why you must leave the event with next steps already scheduled. ㅤ What We Cover The four core sections of an event strategy: A breakdown of pre-event, during the event, follow-up, and speaking sessions.Identifying attendees early: Using past event lists, event apps, social media hashtags, and location filters on LinkedIn to find people before the conference starts.Strategic meeting scheduling: How to book meetings around relevant agenda sessions and find people actively seeking solutions to specific problems.The BAMFAM rule: Why you must "Book A Meeting From A Meeting" to ensure sales cycles continue moving after the event ends.Leveraging speaking sessions: Creating a specific content offer for the room and using the session to segment the audience into hand-raisers and future prospects.The "Free Consultant" approach: How Mason uses speaking opportunities to offer help without selling, while directing immediate buyers to the sales team.Hosting private side events: Using dinners or cocktail hours to target top accounts and ensure the trip is ROI positive through a few key opportunities. ㅤ Resources Mentioned Scrappy ABM Newsletter: Get actionable tactical playbooks delivered to your inbox.Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM. ㅤ If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!

    12 min
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Welcome to Scrappy ABM – your source for groundbreaking approaches to ABM that don't break the bank. ABM shouldn't cost $200K in technology to even get started. If you want to get started with ABM or make your program better without a massive budget, you're in the right place. Each week, you'll hear from some of the brightest minds in the marketing world who are redefining ABM, achieving incredible results with untraditional methods, limited resources, and a whole lot of creativity. This isn't a show about how much you can spend on fancy tech or overhyped tools. Instead, it's about celebrating creative problem-solving and the scrappiness it takes to get ABM right. We'll dive into how these marketing leaders built robust ABM strategies with limited resources, revealing the actionable insights that led to their biggest wins. So, if you're a marketer ready to challenge the status quo, or an entrepreneur looking to scale your business through efficient and effective marketing strategies, Scrappy ABM is the show for you. Get ready to discover ABM strategies that are lean, impactful, and utterly transformative. Remember, it's not about the budget, it's about the mindset. Let's get scrappy!

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