5 episodes

Because there are just some things law school can't prepare you for.

Sh!t They Don't Teach You at Law School Sarah-Elke Kraal

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Because there are just some things law school can't prepare you for.

    The "I don't have time to read effing books" club (with Giorgia and Lauren)

    The "I don't have time to read effing books" club (with Giorgia and Lauren)

    Welcome to the podcast that talks about everything you never knew you needed to know about working in law!

    With your host Sarah-Elke Kraal, Australian lawyer, writer and professional development disruptor.

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    EPISODE 4: The "I don't have time to read effing books" club



    Fun fact: lawyers don't have time to read for funsies.

    So I've asked two of the smartest and funniest lawyers I know to read all the good books for you!

    Join:


    Giorgia Morini (former Crown Prosecutor turned culture leader, speaker, and strategic advisor); and
    Lauren Phelps (former law firm partner turned wellbeing advocate and mediator)

    —as they do their darndest to convince me to read yet another book I'll probably buy, and then leave to languish on my dust-encrusted shelf.

    Listen in to get the top relevant takeaways for our lives and legal careers from Atomic Habits by James Clear! 🙌 

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    And hey, if you're so inclined, you may be able to claim 0.5 CPD points in Professional Skills by listening to this episode (but remember that CPD is self-assessed, and can vary across jurisdictions—so always check the rules of your local Law Society before claiming).

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    The Interview: How to make legal history (with Greg McIntyre SC)

    The Interview: How to make legal history (with Greg McIntyre SC)

    This is "Sh!t They Don't Teach You at Law School"—the podcast that talks about everything you never knew you needed to know about working in law!



    Welcome to our March KEYNOTE Interview 🤩
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    "How to make legal history" with Greg McIntyre SC

    Today we are super lucky to be sitting down with living legal legend, and all around fantastic human, Greg McIntyre SC.

    Greg is the President of the Law Council of Australia, Immediate Past President of the Law Society of Western Australia, and the head of Michael Kirby Chambers in Perth.

    He was so generous with his time in sharing his story, and invaluable advice on how we all can make an impact on social change and justice. 

    See below for some handy dandy timestamps for each part of our chat, or simply sit back and enjoy the captivating stories, insights and advice of a true Australian legal legend.


    3:15—The fascinating story of how he came to law and ultimately made history with Eddie Mabo, Ron
    Castan, Bryan Keon-Cohen, and Barbara Hocking, in one of Australia’s pivotal test cases (Mabo); plus the many landmark cases that interwove with Mabo’s 10
    year legal odyssey.


    39:00—How do you deal with being a part of history?


    41:58—When did you realise it was history in the making?


    43:15—Do you ever catch yourself and think, "Wow. Look what I’ve achieved"?


    45:20—What advice do you have for anyone wanting to make an impact on the legal profession, on the world, on social change and justice as you have – is there any more history to be made?


    47:45—How would you describe the Australian legal profession at this point in time?


    52:37—What are some recent triumphs you’ve seen for the profession?


    54:00—What lead you to become President of the Law Council Australia?


    55:35—What's been the most surprising thing about being President?


    57:32—What is the Law Council’s perspectives on the gender pay gap report released by WGEA?
    How are we as the legal profession faring?


    59:41—What does 'work readiness' mean to you, and how do we do it better in the profession?


    1:05:07—What’s next for you?

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    Connect with me on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠Insta⁠⁠, or email your thoughts to hello [at] sarahelke.com.

    And if you like the show (and want me to keep on making it) HIT FOLLOW and share with your law-talking friends!

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    Dear Sh!tshow: The Instagram Lawyer (with Danielle Keyes)

    Dear Sh!tshow: The Instagram Lawyer (with Danielle Keyes)

    Do *not* adjust your dial—because this is "Sh!t They Don't Teach You at Law School"!

    And it's our first "Dear Sh!tshow" episode, where we take your real-life legal workplace dilemmas and resolve them with the help of experts all over the world.
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    "The Instagram Lawyer" with Danielle Keyes

    A growing phenomenon in legal circles, you can find Instagram Lawyers pretty much everywhere these days.

    They are #nofilter, #candid, and #real.

    Except when they're not...

    For the uninitiated, ILs are individuals who (despite their relative inexperience and/or disinterest in the law), cultivate a carefully curated online presence that packages them up as far more accomplished, seasoned, and qualified than they actually are.


    In this episode of "Dear Sh!tshow", Danielle Keyes (Group General Counsel, Nova Entertainment) dishes her advice for how our letter writer can navigate the fallout from one Instagram Lawyer's unreasonable demands and poor work performance in her small, suburban firm.



    It's bold!

    It's brave!

    And it's forged in the fires of Mount Doom!

    Tune in to hear what Danielle has to say...



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    Disagree with our takes, or have a workplace dilemma of your own that you'd like help navigating? Let me know!

    Connect with me on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ and ⁠Insta⁠, or email your thoughts to hello [at] sarahelke.com.

    And if you like the show (and want me to keep on making it) HIT FOLLOW and share with your law-talking friends!

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    The elephant in the courtroom

    The elephant in the courtroom

    It's episode the first!

    And I'm taking the opportunity to let you know what you can expect from the biggest research project I ever accidentally did on the knowledge and skills gap between law school and the real world of practice.

    Get involved at www.sarahelke.com and connect with me on LinkedIn and Insta!

    Strap yourself in, it's gonna be a wild ride.

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