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The Disrupters: Faith Changing Culture InterVarsity Press
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- Religion & Spirituality
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4.9 • 301 Ratings
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For season four of The Disrupters, through both her life experiences and interviews, sociologist and pop-culture expert Nancy Wang Yuen will explore the nature of Christian spirituality in the real world. Guests will include people with experience, insights, and advice in doing just that.
Yuen said, “This season, I invite listeners to join me on my spiritual journey toward liberation. Each week, a new guest will help me process the foibles of evangelicalism, teach me how to heal from spiritual trauma, and share fresh new ways of doing faith.”
Yuen is the author of Reel Inequality: Hollywood Actors and Racism and coeditor with Deshonna Collier-Goubil of Power Women: Stories of Motherhood, Faith, and the Academy. She has appeared on PBS, NPR, MSNBC, CBS News, NBC News, BBC World, and Dr. Phil. She is a guest writer at CNN, Elle, Los Angeles Times, NBC, and Newsweek.
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Weinstein Survivor Rowena Chiu Writes Her Own Script
Content warning: This episode contains sensitive content about sexual assault.
Former movie mogul Harvey Weinstein was recently sentenced to an additional 16 years in prison on top of his current sentence of 23 years for sexual assault. In this bonus episode of The Disrupters, Nancy Wang Yuen speaks with Weinstein’s former assistant, advocate, and activist Rowena Chiu. She left the film industry after being victimized by Weinstein in 1998.
The 2022 film She Said tells the story of the New York Times investigation that led to Weinstein’s history of abuse and misconduct against women; Chiu is portrayed by actor Angela Yeoh in the film. For Rowena, watching her own story play out in a film evoked complicated feelings:
“It is absolutely true that I'm super proud of it, and I think it's a major achievement. It is also an incredibly difficult movie for the individual survivor to watch,” says Chiu. “It's going to be difficult for me not to feel that the story is out of my control.”
In this episode, Nancy talks to Rowena about how she copes with that tension, how being a Christian has made it difficult for survivors of sexual misconduct to receive support from the church, and how she has learned to tell a deeply difficult story with courage and clarity.
To learn more about how issues of sexual misconduct and abuse affect faith communities, check out The #MeToo Reckoning by pastor and survivor Ruth Everhart. Use the code DISRUPT at ivpress.com for 30% off and free US shipping of The #MeToo Reckoning.
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Resources mentioned in this episode include:
Rowena Chiu's op-ed piece in the New York Times
Rowena Chiu's Sojourners article
Trailer for She Said
She Said by Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey
The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu.
Mixed and Edited by Matt Linder
Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim
Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen Lee -
Kaitlyn Schiess Has a Warning for White Evangelicals
In recent years there has been much cynicism regarding Christians’ role in American politics, especially from younger generations. Kaitlyn Schiess, a doctoral theology student at Duke Divinity School and author of Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of our Neighbor (IVP), understands those challenges.
“A lot of young people today, who want to stay in the church or really truly believe the gospel and want to to take Scripture as authoritative in their lives don't know how to reconcile the fact that the people that taught them to care about the gospel and taught them to care about what Scripture said, didn't seem to actually want to do those things when it really came down to it politically.”
But where Kaitlyn lives, she’s seen young white evangelicals “act like [they’re} the first person to do this” type of justice work when “there is [already] a rich tradition of the Black church being deeply involved in politics here.”
She cautions that especially for white evangelicals, “If you want to partner, if you want to learn…that's great. If you want to start a brand new thing, like no one's ever thought of this, you're pretty quickly going to be humbled.”
Disruptions discussed in this episode:
Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of our Neighbor
The Bible and The Ballot: Using Scripture in Political Decisions
The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go from Here
Bernie Sanders Liberty University Speech
Raphael Warnock 2022 Georgia Senate Race Acceptance Speech
Michael Wear
The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu.
Mixed and Edited by Matt Linder
Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim
Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen Lee -
Deb Liu’s Double-Edged Sword of Resilience and Resentment
For those not paying attention, it might seem as though Deb Liu, the CEO of Ancestry.com and the author of Take Back Your Power has been on a straightforward path to success her whole life. Despite Chinese cultural norms that tend to favor boys over girls, Deb’s parents were incredibly supportive, accepting her for who she was: “[My father] took us fishing, he taught me how to shoot. We went crabbing and shrimping. He treated us like he would any other boy or girl. And it was really great. I had such a wonderful childhood with him.”
But great parents couldn’t fully protect Deb from what was seen as normal in the American south, “where people just brutally bullied you for being different,” according to Liu.
For someone in her position, overcoming these kinds of experiences is often cited as a reason for success and not a barrier. But for Liu, it’s more complicated than that:
“That taught me so much resilience, and yet gave me so much resentment at the same. I had to spend a lot of time really breaking through that…I used that resentment. I used it to actually help me accelerate my career, to get to college, to achieve so much.
And yet at the same time, it was really hurting me too, because that chip on my shoulder of ‘I'm going to prove to them that I'm better than they think I am, that I'm more than they assume I am,’ really hurt me in the long term.”
Disruptions discussed in this episode:
MommySchool.net
The Purpose Driven Life
The Five Love Languages
The Righteous Mind
Why We’re Polarized
Forward
The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu.
Mixed and Edited by Matt Linder
Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim
Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen Lee -
I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 4: How White Santa Overshadows Jesus
In this series, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately.
In part 4, Nancy and Jemar discuss the obsession with white Santa and the ways that cultural representations often distract from the heart of the season, Jesus Christ.
The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen.
Mixed and edited by Matt Linder
Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim
Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen Lee -
I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 3: Christmas in Color
In this series, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately.
In part 3, Nancy and Jemar discuss what it actually looks like to have people of color fully represented in Christmas movies.
The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen.
Mixed and edited by Matt Linder
Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim
Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen Lee -
I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 2: The Christmas Rom-Com
In this series, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately.
In part 2, Nancy and Jemar discuss the proliferation of the Christmas Rom-Com, and the cultural tropes that often come alongside them.
The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen.
Mixed and edited by Matt Linder
Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim
Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen Lee
Customer Reviews
Loved seeing Christmas in Color!
Sharing thanks for the “Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas” series! We have gained meaningful new perspective on how we in America typically celebrate Christmas and how we can do it better from this collaboration between Nancy Wang Yuen & Jemar Tisby. Hoping for more from this beautiful team!
Great Podcast
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Interesting Guests and Thoughtful Hosts
I loved Esau McCauley as host and was sorry he had to move on to new projects, but I’m loving Nancy Yuen now too.
I was so thrilled that Nancy had Gene Yang, author of American Born Chinese, on the show. Great discussion!