The Memory Hole Podcast Jena_with1n
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- Society & Culture
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A look back at the mental health crisis known as the Recovered Memory Movement of the late 1980's and early 90's, from the perspective of a bystander.
The podcast is 6-episodes in length and deals with a mature subject. It is not appropriate for children and some adults.
Complete show notes can be found at www.memoryholepodcast.com
Do you have an experience from the recovered memory movement you'd like to share? You can leave a voicemail at 1-612-888-3742, which may be used in a future episode.
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Ep. 6: What did we learn?
Show notes for Episode 6:
Carrie Poppy
https://maximumfun.org/about/team/carrie-poppy/
Historian Edward Shorter
From Paralysis to Fatigue; a history of psychosomatic illness in the modern era
Idioms of distress
https://www.brightfutures.org/concerns/culture/cultural-concepts.html
Article in The Cut:
The Memory War; Jennifer Freyd accused her father of sexual abuse. Her parents’ attempt to discredit her created a defense for countless sex offenders.
Carrie’s response: The Letters New York Magazine Hasn’t Printed.
Meredith Maran
Interview 5/23/2023
My Lie; A True Story of False Memory
Forward to the second edition Diana Russell’s book, The Secret Trauma, published in 1999.
https://www.dianarussell.com/the_great_incest_war.html
Cover art collage by Jena Martin, using Solitude by Frederick Leighton 1890 -
Ep. 5: Forget Me Not; how we don't remember
Opening: The Confessions of St. Augustine, AD 401
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3296/3296-h/3296-h.htm
Interviews:
Dr. Henry Otgaar
Personal Website
Maastricht University
Interview 9/21/2023
Dr. Sophie Scott
The Brain: 10 things you should know
X/Twitter
Interview 9/22/2023
Mentions:
Bart Simpson: Oh boy, time to repress another memory
Season 14, Episode 17
Dr. Scott mentions the 'Lost in the Mall' study
Context: https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/XQze2hIAAGYP8ckl
Beyond Lost in the Mall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOpMhYGPajU
Explaining memories in the movie Inside Out - where they went wrong:
https://theconversation.com/does-pixars-inside-out-show-how-memory-actually-works-43311
Cover art collage featuring Mnemosyne, also titled Lamp of Memory and Ricordanza.
Dante Gabriel Rossetti, 1881.
“We look at the world once,
in childhood. The rest
is memory.”
Louise Gluck
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
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Bonus: Crews on Freud
This is a bonus episode, to bring you more from my interview conducted on June 28 2023 with Dr. Frederick Crews, Professor Emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley.
If you listened to Episode 4 you heard a lot from him about
Freud. But he had lots more to say during our interview and I don’t want to condemn those words to a file on my computer. Plus he doesn’t have a lot of accessible interviews on the internet. I believe his voice needs to be heard.
About the guest:
Frederick Crews is a professor emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley. His many books include The Critics Bear It Away: American Fiction and the Academy, The Random House Handbook (currently in its sixth edition), and Postmodern Pooh.
Interview, 6/28/2023
Freud: The Making of an Illision
Episode cover art featuring Amalia Freud, Sigmund's mother. -
Ep. 4: The Fog of War; believing the unbelievable.
From Freud to Geraldo
Show Notes:
Frederick Crews is a professor emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley. His many books include The Critics Bear It Away: American Fiction and the Academy, The Random House Handbook (currently in its sixth edition), and Postmodern Pooh.
Interview, 6/28/2023
Freud: The Making of an Illision
The Freudian Cover Up
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/10040046
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Mark Pendergrast
Interview 6/14/2023
Quotes from Prodigy, early internet chat room, taken from his book Victims of Memory.
His more recent and comprehensive book on this subject is Mind Warp:
https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Warp-Repressed-Arose-Refuses/dp/0942679415
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Ms. Magazine Cover Story - Believe it. Cult ritual abuse exists
https://www.loc.gov/exhibitions/drawn-to-purpose/about-this-exhibition/magazine-covers-and-cartoons/disturbing-content/
The article is unavailable on the Ms. Magazine website archives; a PDF copy can be accessed on the Memory Hole Podcast website, www.memoryholepodcast.com
Reaction to the article: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/All+the+babies+you+can+eat.-a013566129
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Melody Gavigan’s story of retraction appears in Time Magazine, in an article Lias of the Mind from 1993
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,979691,00.html
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Statements from professional organizations disavowing recovered memory therapies:Americal Medical Association
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00207149508409955
American Psychiatric Association https://www.psychiatry.org/getattachment/930fb215-2147-40e9-9d44-f06d84fc64de/Position-2013-Memories-Child-Abuse.pdf
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Decision in the Holly Ramona legal case:
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/14/us/father-who-fought-memory-therapy-wins-damage-suit.html
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Geraldo Rivera, as quoted in The Day Care Ritual Abuse Moral Panic, 2004
-from CNBC 12/12/1995
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The False Memory Syndrome Foundation
http://www.fmsfonline.org/
War of Remembrance, Philadelphia Magazine, January 1994
Pam Freyd Interview with David Calof in Treating Abuse Today 1994
Clips from the Documentary Making Memories used with permission of Patrick Clancy
Access it here:
False Memories: Remembering What Never Occurred? (TW: Child Sexual Abuse)
Pam Freyd’s article, published anonymously: How Could This Happen? Coping with A False Accusation of Incest and Rape, Jane Doe
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume3/j3_3_3.htm
The Cut chooses Jennifer Freyd
https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html
Rebuttals
https://carriepoppyyes.medium.com/four-letters-new-york-magazine-hasnt-printed-88e08e94db5f
Beware the Incest Survivor Machine, New York Times, Carol Tavris 1993
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html
Cover image collage by Jena Martin featuring the Sphinx from the painting Oedipus and the Sphinx Francois-Xavier Fabre, 1808
The tragic story of Oedipus
https://www.thecollector.com/oedipus-rex-artworks/
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
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Ep. 3: "Suspicion to Confirmation"; the promise of The Courage to Heal
All quotes come from the 1st Edition of The Courage to Heal; a guide for women survivors of child sexual abuse, 1988
For more audio background about the book, please check out the Conspirituality podcast's two brilliant episodes on this text.
Meredith Maran Interview 5/23/2023
Mark Pendegrast Interview 6/14/2023
Frederick Crews Interview 6/28/2023
The cover image for this episode is of Cassandra (Cassandra. 3307: Bust by Max Klinger, 1857-1920. Hamburger Kunsthalle)
"Have I missed the mark, or, like true archer, do I strike my quarry? Or am I prophet of lies, a babbler from door to door?" (Cassandra. Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1194).
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
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Ep. 2: “Every tear was an incest-driven tear”; child sexual abuse comes to light in the 1980s.
Please note: between minutes 3:30-4:56 on some platforms there is a blank space. This was a YouTube clip of an Oprah Winfrey program in 1986, included to demonstrate the pervasiveness of this topic in popular culture. If this is missing in your feed, please accept my apologies. Here is the incident referred to:
In addition to physical abuse, young Winfrey was sexually assaulted
by more than one family member when she was just nine years old. She was
also molested by a family friend while still a little girl. Oprah
shared these traumas with the public very early on in her career. The New York Times reported in 1986 that during an episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show
about battered women and incest. She started to cry when a guest talked
about her experiences of abuse and sexual assault, asking for a station
break and hugging the woman, at which point she revealed her own
experiences as a victim and survivor. She later said “For the longest
time, I carried this burden around with me and was afraid to tell
anybody because I thought it was my fault.”
Prime time movie night Something about Amelia
After school special: Don’t Touch
Rosanne Barr
During an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show, the comedian admitted that she is ashamed to have levied allegations of sexual abuse against her mother and father in 1991."I think it's the worst thing I've ever done," she said. "It's the biggest mistake that I've ever made."
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/roseanne-barr-incest-156910/
Oprah Winfrey
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9604633/Oprah-recalls-repeatedly-raped-19-year-old-cousin-age-nine.html
Meredith Maran Interview 5/23/23
Dan Rather CBS Evening News, March 1988, Television Archive
Playboy magazine comic, quoted from The Best Kept Secret, Florence Rush 1980
Quotes from: John Money, Wardell Pommeroy, Larry Constantine from The Best Kept Secret, Florence Rush 1980
More about Florence Rush
Love’s Baby Soft Commercial, 1975 “Because innocence is sexier than you think.”
Mark Pendergrast Interview 6/14/23
Laura Pasley https://www.stopbadtherapy.com/retracts/pasley.shtml
Laura Pasley appeared in documentary: Making Memories, from the False Memory Foundation (Patrick Clancy)
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/a-trailblazer-of-trauma-studies-asks-what-victims-really-want
Customer Reviews
Very interesting
Very interesting podcast about a subject I did not know much about.
Hits close to home
My family was affected by this phenomenon. It tore us apart. Listening to this was very illuminating. Thank you.
Stellar. A must-listen
It's about social contagion in the 1980s, but it also tells you exactly what's happening today.