8 episodes

A look back at the mental health crisis known as the Recovered Memory Movement of the late 1980's and early 90's, from the perspective of a bystander.
The podcast is 6-episodes in length and deals with a mature subject. It is not appropriate for children and some adults.

Complete show notes can be found at www.memoryholepodcast.com
Do you have an experience from the recovered memory movement you'd like to share? You can leave a voicemail at 1-612-888-3742, which may be used in a future episode.

The Memory Hole Podcast Jena_with1n

    • Society & Culture
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A look back at the mental health crisis known as the Recovered Memory Movement of the late 1980's and early 90's, from the perspective of a bystander.
The podcast is 6-episodes in length and deals with a mature subject. It is not appropriate for children and some adults.

Complete show notes can be found at www.memoryholepodcast.com
Do you have an experience from the recovered memory movement you'd like to share? You can leave a voicemail at 1-612-888-3742, which may be used in a future episode.

    Ep. 6: What did we learn?

    Ep. 6: What did we learn?

    Show notes for Episode 6:

    Carrie Poppy

    https://maximumfun.org/about/team/carrie-poppy/



    Historian Edward Shorter

    From Paralysis to Fatigue; a history of psychosomatic illness in the modern era



    Idioms of distress

    https://www.brightfutures.org/concerns/culture/cultural-concepts.html



    Article in The Cut:

    The Memory War; Jennifer Freyd accused her father of sexual abuse. Her parents’ attempt to discredit her created a defense for countless sex offenders.



    Carrie’s response: The Letters New York Magazine Hasn’t Printed.



     Meredith Maran

    Interview 5/23/2023

    My Lie; A True Story of False Memory



    Forward to the second edition Diana Russell’s book, The Secret Trauma, published in 1999.

     https://www.dianarussell.com/the_great_incest_war.html



    Cover art collage by Jena Martin, using Solitude by Frederick Leighton 1890

    • 40 min
    Ep. 5: Forget Me Not; how we don't remember

    Ep. 5: Forget Me Not; how we don't remember

    Opening: The Confessions of St. Augustine, AD 401

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3296/3296-h/3296-h.htm



    Interviews:

    Dr. Henry Otgaar

    Personal Website

    Maastricht University 

    Interview 9/21/2023



    Dr. Sophie Scott

    The Brain: 10 things you should know

    X/Twitter

    Interview 9/22/2023



    Mentions:

    Bart Simpson: Oh boy, time to repress another memory

    ⁠Season 14, Episode 17⁠



    Dr. Scott mentions the 'Lost in the Mall' study

    Context: https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/XQze2hIAAGYP8ckl

    Beyond Lost in the Mall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOpMhYGPajU

    Explaining memories in the movie Inside Out - where they went wrong:

    https://theconversation.com/does-pixars-inside-out-show-how-memory-actually-works-43311



    Cover art collage featuring Mnemosyne, also titled Lamp of Memory and Ricordanza.

    Dante Gabriel Rossetti, 1881.

    “We look at the world once, 

    in childhood. The rest

    is memory.”

    Louise Gluck



    Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library

    The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by  ELPHNT

     

    • 35 min
    Bonus: Crews on Freud

    Bonus: Crews on Freud

    This is a bonus episode, to bring you more from my interview conducted on June 28 2023 with Dr. Frederick Crews, Professor Emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley.

    If you listened to Episode 4 you heard a lot from him about
    Freud. But he had lots more to say during our interview and I don’t want to condemn those words to a file on my computer. Plus he doesn’t have a lot of accessible interviews on the internet. I believe his voice needs to be heard.



    About the guest:

    Frederick Crews is a professor emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley. His many books include The Critics Bear It Away: American Fiction and the Academy, The Random House Handbook (currently in its sixth edition), and Postmodern Pooh.

    Interview, 6/28/2023

    Freud: The Making of an Illision



    Episode cover art featuring Amalia Freud, Sigmund's mother.

    • 29 min
    Ep. 4: The Fog of War; believing the unbelievable.

    Ep. 4: The Fog of War; believing the unbelievable.

    From Freud to Geraldo

    Show Notes:

    Frederick Crews is a professor emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley. His many books include The Critics Bear It Away: American Fiction and the Academy, The Random House Handbook (currently in its sixth edition), and Postmodern Pooh.

    Interview, 6/28/2023

    Freud: The Making of an Illision 

    The Freudian Cover Up 

    https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/10040046

    ----

    Mark Pendergrast

    Interview 6/14/2023

    Quotes from Prodigy, early internet chat room, taken from his book Victims of Memory.

    His more recent and comprehensive book on this subject is Mind Warp: 

    https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Warp-Repressed-Arose-Refuses/dp/0942679415

    ----

    Ms. Magazine Cover Story - Believe it. Cult ritual abuse exists

    https://www.loc.gov/exhibitions/drawn-to-purpose/about-this-exhibition/magazine-covers-and-cartoons/disturbing-content/

    The article is unavailable on the Ms. Magazine website archives; a PDF copy can be accessed on the Memory Hole Podcast website, www.memoryholepodcast.com 

    Reaction to the article: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/All+the+babies+you+can+eat.-a013566129

     ----

    Melody Gavigan’s story of retraction appears in Time Magazine, in an article Lias of the Mind from 1993

    https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,979691,00.html

    ----

    Statements from professional organizations disavowing recovered memory therapies:Americal Medical Association

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00207149508409955

    American Psychiatric Association  https://www.psychiatry.org/getattachment/930fb215-2147-40e9-9d44-f06d84fc64de/Position-2013-Memories-Child-Abuse.pdf

    ----



    Decision in the Holly Ramona legal case: 

    https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/14/us/father-who-fought-memory-therapy-wins-damage-suit.html

    ----

    Geraldo Rivera, as quoted in The Day Care Ritual Abuse Moral Panic, 2004 

    -from CNBC 12/12/1995

    ----

    The False Memory Syndrome Foundation

    http://www.fmsfonline.org/

    War of Remembrance, Philadelphia Magazine, January 1994

    Pam Freyd Interview with David Calof in Treating Abuse Today 1994

    Clips from the Documentary Making Memories used with permission of Patrick Clancy

    Access it here: 

    False Memories: Remembering What Never Occurred? (TW: Child Sexual Abuse)

    Pam Freyd’s article, published anonymously: How Could This Happen?  Coping with A False Accusation of Incest and Rape, Jane Doe

    http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume3/j3_3_3.htm

    The Cut chooses Jennifer Freyd

    https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html

    Rebuttals

    https://carriepoppyyes.medium.com/four-letters-new-york-magazine-hasnt-printed-88e08e94db5f

    Beware the Incest Survivor Machine, New York Times, Carol Tavris 1993

    https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html









    Cover image collage by Jena Martin featuring the Sphinx from the painting Oedipus and the Sphinx Francois-Xavier Fabre, 1808

    The tragic story of Oedipus 

    https://www.thecollector.com/oedipus-rex-artworks/





    Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library

    The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by  ELPHNT

     

    • 39 min
    Ep. 3: "Suspicion to Confirmation"; the promise of The Courage to Heal

    Ep. 3: "Suspicion to Confirmation"; the promise of The Courage to Heal

    All quotes come from the 1st Edition of The Courage to Heal; a guide for women survivors of child sexual abuse, 1988

    For more audio background about the book, please check out the Conspirituality podcast's two brilliant episodes on this text.

    Meredith Maran Interview 5/23/2023

    Mark Pendegrast Interview 6/14/2023

    Frederick Crews Interview 6/28/2023

    The cover image for this episode is of Cassandra (Cassandra. 3307: Bust by Max Klinger, 1857-1920. Hamburger Kunsthalle)

    "Have I missed the mark, or, like true archer, do I strike my quarry? Or am I prophet of lies, a babbler from door to door?" (Cassandra. Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1194).









    Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library

    The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by  ELPHNT

     

    • 35 min
    Ep. 2: “Every tear was an incest-driven tear”; child sexual abuse comes to light in the 1980s.

    Ep. 2: “Every tear was an incest-driven tear”; child sexual abuse comes to light in the 1980s.

    Please note: between minutes 3:30-4:56 on some platforms there is a blank space. This was a YouTube clip of an Oprah Winfrey program in 1986, included to demonstrate the pervasiveness of this topic in popular culture. If this is missing in your feed, please accept my apologies. Here is the incident referred to:

    In addition to physical abuse, young Winfrey was sexually assaulted
    by more than one family member when she was just nine years old. She was
    also molested by a family friend while still a little girl. Oprah
    shared these traumas with the public very early on in her career. The New York Times reported in 1986 that during an episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show
    about battered women and incest. She started to cry when a guest talked
    about her experiences of abuse and sexual assault, asking for a station
    break and hugging the woman, at which point she revealed her own
    experiences as a victim and survivor. She later said “For the longest
    time, I carried this burden around with me and was afraid to tell
    anybody because I thought it was my fault.”



    Prime time movie night Something about Amelia

    After school special: Don’t Touch

    Rosanne Barr

    During an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show, the comedian admitted that she is ashamed to have levied allegations of sexual abuse against her mother and father in 1991."I think it's the worst thing I've ever done," she said. "It's the biggest mistake that I've ever made."

    https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/roseanne-barr-incest-156910/

    Oprah Winfrey

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9604633/Oprah-recalls-repeatedly-raped-19-year-old-cousin-age-nine.html

    Meredith Maran Interview 5/23/23

    Dan Rather CBS Evening News, March 1988, Television Archive

    Playboy magazine comic, quoted from The Best Kept Secret, Florence Rush 1980

    Quotes from: John Money, Wardell Pommeroy, Larry Constantine from The Best Kept Secret, Florence Rush 1980

    More about Florence Rush

    Love’s Baby Soft Commercial, 1975 “Because innocence is sexier than you think.”

    Mark Pendergrast Interview 6/14/23

    Laura Pasley https://www.stopbadtherapy.com/retracts/pasley.shtml

    Laura Pasley appeared in documentary: Making Memories, from the False Memory Foundation (Patrick Clancy)



    Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library

    The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by  ELPHNT

    https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/a-trailblazer-of-trauma-studies-asks-what-victims-really-want

    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
39 Ratings

39 Ratings

OlsonOlson ,

Very interesting

Very interesting podcast about a subject I did not know much about.

gorillamama8 ,

Hits close to home

My family was affected by this phenomenon. It tore us apart. Listening to this was very illuminating. Thank you.

Martin Olaf ,

Stellar. A must-listen

It's about social contagion in the 1980s, but it also tells you exactly what's happening today.

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