A Special Place in Hell Meghan Daum & Sarah Haider

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Billie Eilish gets ratioed for saying no one criticizes men’s bodies. She is SO WRONG! (Yet kind of right.) In other news, famed atheist Ayaan Hirsi Ali is now a Christian. What gives? Sarah has a few theories, Meghan is suspicious of the timing (Christmas is right around the corner…). Finally, the girls/women discuss what religion they’d like to convert to and have a hard time deciding.
Plus, why the official new name for paying subscribers is “speds.”  
RELEVANT LINKS
“Why I am now a Christian” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali for Unherd.
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TikTokers discover Osama bin Laden’s Letter to America and have “existential crises”. Is it because it’s the first thing they’ve ever read that’s longer than a tweet? Or is OBL this generation’s Che Guevara? Plus, infighting breaks out in TERF world when an AGP confuses business casual with ballroom formal. 
Relevant Links
Osama bin Laden's TikTok popularity is based on childish notions of evil.
Meghan’s famous “piece” gets demoted to a “post.”
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High school debaters stand up to whiteness (finally). A-romantic, asexual novelist throws Twitter tantrum. Plus, are all-female colleges dangerous places for women? Do women tear down more posters than men? Would Sarah have been better off at an all-boy’s school? Should Meghan a cult leader? Or is she more assistant-to-the-cult leader material? 
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Sarah and Meghan kick off their conversation by wondering whether you should be able to order a breastmilk latte at Starbucks and or if the Donner Party consulted YouTube for human meat recipes. 
They then move on to the myth of the “decolonization” narrative, the disinformation surrounding the Israel-Hamas War and ask whether TikTok is a “headless propaganda machine.” (Signs point to yes.) 
Finally, they discuss the case of the 21-year-old TikToker who went viral with a video complaining about the hours she must work at her first job. Spoiler: they agree with her! 
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Relevant Links
“The Decolonization Narrative Is Dangerous and False” from The Atlantic
“Opinion: Nothing has prepared me for the antisemitism I see on college campuses now” from The LA Times
“Hamas Killed My Wokeness” from Tablet
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Housekeeping
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In this episode Sarah and Meghan consider the ethics of adoption, surrogacy and the future of reproductive technology. They discuss the “Baby Scoop” era, which lasted from just after World War II into the early 1970s, in which millions of unwed mother surrendered their babies to adoption agencies, many of which were profiting from the transaction.
They discover that Meghan, who was born the year of the highest number of adoptions, has always knows tons of adoptees and never thought much of it. Sarah, on the other hand, knew very few adoptees. Sarah also reflects on her own primal motherhood instinct and Meghan talks about her volunteer work in the foster care system. 
RELEVANT LINKS
Meghan worked in the foster care system for a while, and she wrote this essay about it in The New Yorker.
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