13 episodes

The Next Wave is your personal Chief AI Officer, bringing fresh takes, industry insights and a trustworthy perspective on how to implement AI to grow your business.
Join Matt Wolfe and Nathan Lands, as they democratize the expertise often reserved for the boardrooms of the biggest corporations. From groundbreaking technologies to practical applications, Matt and Nathan will cover everything you need to stay informed and prepared. Whether you're seeking to adapt your company to the AI era or simply curious about the future, this podcast will equip you with the knowledge to thrive in the forthcoming wave of change.

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    • 4.8 • 43 Ratings

The Next Wave is your personal Chief AI Officer, bringing fresh takes, industry insights and a trustworthy perspective on how to implement AI to grow your business.
Join Matt Wolfe and Nathan Lands, as they democratize the expertise often reserved for the boardrooms of the biggest corporations. From groundbreaking technologies to practical applications, Matt and Nathan will cover everything you need to stay informed and prepared. Whether you're seeking to adapt your company to the AI era or simply curious about the future, this podcast will equip you with the knowledge to thrive in the forthcoming wave of change.

    Is the Apple-OpenAI Deal a Stopgap? Elon Musk's Next Move, and the Future of AI Partnerships

    Is the Apple-OpenAI Deal a Stopgap? Elon Musk's Next Move, and the Future of AI Partnerships

    Episode 11: Is the Apple-OpenAI Deal a Strategic Move or Just a Stopgap? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) and Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) delve into the intricacies of the recent Apple and OpenAI collaboration.
    This episode explores the potential limitations for OpenAI's pro paying members, the speculation around Apple possibly paying for OpenAI's tech, and the implication of this on the future AI developments by Apple themselves. They also dive deep into the rapid advancements of AI, the risks of deepfakes, trademark infringements, and how AI's integration into daily devices could reshape our interaction with technology.

    Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd


    Show Notes:

    (00:00) Apple's features not available; vague timeline expected.

    (04:11) Overall, not completely new, already seen before.

    (08:24) OpenAI's GPT4 demo wows, potential for Siri.

    (11:04) Language model uses device context for generation.

    (15:13) Apple unlikely to change, default settings discussed.

    (17:09) Rumors about robots in Silicon Valley abound.

    (21:28) Upgraded Siri, Rabbit R one: future AI.

    (25:38) New AI will be shocking when it arrives on iPhone.

    (27:24) iPhone updates prioritize important emails for users.

    (31:41) AI integration will change daily life positively.


    Mentions:

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    WWDC 2024: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24/


    WWDC 2024 Keynote: https://events-delivery.apple.com/1505clvgxdwlbjrjhxtjdgcdxaiabvuf/m3u8/vod_index-LHDoZDhTrsKLsbrZKqYpbWraixsWQHkw.m3u8





    Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
    • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
    • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
    • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow


    Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

    Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/


    Blog - https://lore.com/



    The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

    • 36 min
    AI Entrepreneur Matthew Berman On The Power of LLMs - "It blows my mind."

    AI Entrepreneur Matthew Berman On The Power of LLMs - "It blows my mind."

    Episode 10: Are closed-source or open-source AI models the future of artificial intelligence? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/mreflow) and Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/NathanLands) delve into this question with guest Matthew Berman (https://x.com/MatthewBerman), a serial entrepreneur and founder of a popular AI YouTube channel.
    In this episode, we explore the pros and cons of closed models from giants like OpenAI and Google versus open models like Llama and Mixtural. Matthew Berman shares his insights on the evolving AI landscape, the potential of future models like GPT-5, and the impact of integrating AI into major platforms such as Google and Facebook. We also speculate about OpenAI's partnership with Apple and the wider implications for the tech industry. Additionally, the discussion dives into the job market for AI specialists, Silicon Valley's pirate culture, and the challenges of hyper-growth within companies pushing the envelope on AI innovations.

    Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd


    Show Notes:

    (00:00) Tracking AI advancements.

    (05:58) Love for open source: diverse, specific, cost-effective.

    (09:23) Swap open source model for flexibility and quality.

    (11:41) Doubts about OpenAI's long-term future, models commoditized.

    (15:03) Competition and challenges ahead for OpenAI.

    (19:06) Apple's leverage with Google, OpenAI's potential payment.

    (20:14) GPT 4's accomplishment, versus rumors of Google's Gemini.

    (23:26) Concern about integrating AI into existing platforms.

    (28:25) Large action model can control computers dynamically.

    (34:31) Sam Altman downplayed release intended for feedback; denied malintent.

    (37:39) Senate considering recall after contradictory financial statements.

    (42:56) Elon Musk raised $6 billion, largest fundraise.

    (45:32) Questioning validity of Elon's compensation package.

    (47:35) Silicon Valley pirates break rules for success.


    Mentions:

    Matthew Berman: https://www.matthewberman.com/


    Llama: https://llama.com/


    Mixtural: https://mixtural.com/


    Google Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/


    Groq: https://groq.com/

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    Free Resources:
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    Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
    • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
    • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
    • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow


    Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

    Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/


    Blog - https://lore.com/



    The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

    • 53 min
    The Cheat Code to AI Content with Roberto Nickson

    The Cheat Code to AI Content with Roberto Nickson

    Episode 9: How do you maintain trust and authenticity while exploring the world of AI content creation? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) are joined by AI enthusiast Roberto Nickson (https://x.com/rpnickson), a product designer and iOS app developer turned AI content creator.
    In this episode, they delve into the importance of humanizing the faces behind big tech companies, explore the future of AI-generated music, and discuss the balance creators must maintain between financial opportunities and credibility. The discussion also touches on the potential of reels overtaking TikTok and the exciting prospects of Meta's advancements in AI.

    Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd


    Show Notes:

    (00:00) Social media, music, and AI influence creators.

    (03:41) Roberto working on PicLab app top photo editor.

    (08:51) Small niche tools gain traction over big incumbents.

    (10:16) Difficulty adapting to new search models expected.

    (13:59) Using Suno for creating perfect video music.

    (16:03) Kid develops groundbreaking technology, shares on Discord.

    (20:55) AI music sentiment positive as musicians engage.

    (23:18) AI creates, but human touch adds value.

    (27:58) New technology raises ethical, regulatory questions.

    (30:21) Content creation ethics: Audience or sponsor focus?

    (32:55) Canceled deal due to discomfort.

    (37:59) Matt not realizing AI was controversial.

    (38:56) Navigating controversy surrounding AI and addressing fears.

    (43:57) Potential TikTok acquisition in the US uncertain.

    (45:41) Positive outlook on Meta's open sourcing strategy.

    (50:31) Building relationship with Meta through hard work.

    (52:18) Social media platforms prioritize creator engagement over revenue.

    (55:46) Revamped Siri to power Apple devices ecosystem.

    (58:25) People excited about tech, humanize big companies.


    Mentions:

    MidJourney: https://www.midjourney.com/


    Suno: https://suno.com/


    PicLab: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-editor/id597851882


    Magnific: https://magnific.ai/





    Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
    • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
    • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
    • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow


    Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

    Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/


    Blog - https://lore.com/



    The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Why Google Search Isn’t Going Anywhere Anytime Soon | Bilawal Sidhu

    Why Google Search Isn’t Going Anywhere Anytime Soon | Bilawal Sidhu

    Episode 8: Is Google's dominance in search engines at risk with the rise of generative AI models? Hosts Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) dive into this topic with guest Bilawal Sidhu (https://x.com/bilawalsidhu), a host of The TED AI Show and a former Google employee experienced in AR/VR projects and creating 3D maps for Google Maps.
    In this episode, Bilawal explores the potential challenges facing Google's search engine supremacy due to advancements in generative AI models and discusses the implications for the future of search engines and advertising. He dives into the impact of AI-generated content on search results and the need for a nuanced approach in navigating the evolving landscape of digital information.

    Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd


    Show Notes:

    (00:00) Decade in tech, six years at Google.

    (03:17) Time at Google as a product manager .

    (06:27) Discussion about impact of TikTok and YouTube.

    (12:28) Models need to be anchored in real knowledge.

    (18:23) Testing GPT-2 in the wild with users.

    (19:37) AI expectations not met yet.

    (23:29) Spatial intelligence for machines and photogrammetry summary.

    (26:02) Implicit representations enable flexible, accurate rendering techniques.

    (32:08) Nvidia's Earth 2 initiative predicts real-world weather.

    (34:41) Training AI by creating virtual reality scenarios.

    (36:33) Exciting Ted show explores impact of AI technology.

    (40:15) Editorial perspective in Ted show seeks balanced, nuanced viewpoints.

    (45:12) Delay regulations to accelerate technological advancement impactfully.

    (47:18) Regulations should sunset, engage with China's perspective.



    Mentions:
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    Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
    • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
    • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
    • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow


    Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

    Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/


    Blog - https://lore.com/



    The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

    • 53 min
    OpenAI GPT-4o, Google Gemini Update, and Microsoft Copilot: Everything You Need to Know

    OpenAI GPT-4o, Google Gemini Update, and Microsoft Copilot: Everything You Need to Know

    Bonus Episode: How are the latest AI breakthroughs set to change our everyday lives? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) are here to break down the monumental updates from recent AI events and explore their potential impact.
    In this bonus episode, Matt and Nathan discuss the recent announcements from OpenAI's GPT-4.0, particularly its groundbreaking voice interaction features, and compare it with Google's latest AI advancements. From the intriguing controversy around the GPT-4 voice to the shift in search dynamics, this episode dives deep into the heart of the AI revolution. Don't miss their insights on the importance of Google's project Astra, Microsoft's new AI hardware, and the potential of upcoming AI tools and events.
    Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd


    Show Notes:

    00:00 AI announcements discussed, GPT-4 demo highlighted.

    03:41 AI advancement sparks awakening and debate.

    08:02 Twitter buzz about disputed Scarlett Johansson voice.

    10:21 AI dominates conference, Google focuses on announcements.

    14:08 Microsoft event, Google announcements, AI photo search.

    16:37 Google's revenue relies on ad revenue. Ads matter.

    20:14 Astra project uses iPhone to recognize objects.

    24:57 Google employees are passionate and excited.

    28:20 New Microsoft computers incorporate AI for local processing.

    30:25 OpenAI and Microsoft apps for computer interaction.

    32:41 Apple WWDC announces new features and products.



    Mentions:

    GPT-4: https://openai.com/gpt-4


    Google I/O: https://io.google/2023/


    Microsoft Build: https://www.microsoft.com/build


    Project Astra: https://www.google.com/astra


    Askphotos: https://photos.google.com/


    Copilot: https://www.microsoft.com/copilot




    Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
    • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
    • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
    • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow


    Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

    Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/


    Blog - https://lore.com/



    The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

    • 37 min
    How Yohei Nakajima Created an Autonomous Startup Founder: Baby AGI

    How Yohei Nakajima Created an Autonomous Startup Founder: Baby AGI

    Episode 7: Why and how, Yohei Nakajim built a baby AGI. Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sit down with Yohei Nakajima (https://x.com/yoheinakajima), a venture capitalist and serial AI tool builder.
    In this episode, Yohei dives deep into the transformative potential of AI in automating tedious tasks, revolutionizing venture capital, and redefining job markets. He shares insights on the practical applications of AI for small and medium businesses, discusses the branding of "web three," and explores the development and impact of autonomous agents like his Baby Agi project. Whether you're interested in tech innovation, business adaptability, or AI ethics, this conversation covers it all.

    Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd


    Show Notes:

    (00:00) VC turned coder using AI for prototyping.

    (03:38) Community support led to modding and improvements to Baby AGI.

    (08:16) Learning curve in using autonomous agents.

    (11:31) AI agents offer guided next step suggestions.

    (15:04) Developers emphasize handcrafted agents over autonomous agents.

    (17:10) Balancing niche and broad market expectations in tech.

    (20:12) Massive models trained on millions of people.

    (22:52) Childhood fascination leads to pondering internet immortality.

    (27:24) Venture capital, AI, SaaS, future-proofing investment criteria.

    (30:03) Interest in lowering company startup costs and VC innovation.

    (33:34) Try using free version of chats first.



    Mentions:

    Yohei Nakajima: https://yohei.me/


    Baby AGI: https://discord.com/invite/TMUw26XUcg


    Claude: https://claude.ai/

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    Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
    • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
    • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
    • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow


    Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

    Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/


    Blog - https://lore.com/



    The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
43 Ratings

43 Ratings

ckalinski2 ,

The Next Wave Podcast: A Must-Listen for AI Enthusiasts!

If you're interested in staying up-to-date with the latest developments in the world of AI, The Next Wave Podcast, hosted by Matt Wolf and Nathan Lands, is an absolute must-listen!

Matt and Nathan have a talent for presenting complex AI topics in an engaging and accessible way. Each episode is packed with fascinating insights and thought-provoking discussions that will leave you eager to learn more.

The podcast covers a wide range of AI-related topics, from the latest breakthroughs in research to the practical applications of AI in various industries. Whether you're a seasoned AI professional or just starting to explore this exciting field, you'll find something of value in every episode.

I highly recommend checking out The Next Wave Podcast and connecting with the amazing community of AI enthusiasts that Matt and Nathan have brought together.

Trust me, you won't regret diving into this wealth of AI knowledge and inspiration. Happy listening!

Jax2468013579 ,

Don’t say anything bad about OpenAI

I followed these guys on Twitter and decided to follow their podcast after I dumped Twitter. Oh boy, what a mistake. Nathan is such an OpenAI fanboy that he excuses EVERY misstep made by Sam Altman/OpenAI. When the rumor mill was chanting OpenAI search, Nathan could not gush enough about it. When search did not happen, Nathan just moved on to how great ChatGPT 5 will be. He has not mentioned search again. If anybody says anything negative about Sam Altman/OpenAI, Nathan does not hesitate to dismiss the people as being angry, hurt, having an ax to grind, jealous. On 2024.06.11 the total annihilation of an ex-OpenAI board member who spoke out about Sam Altman’s firing had me incredulous when Nathan asked what was the board member’s background that qualified her to be on the board at all. Wow!

BryanMully ,

Great cross section of AI reviews and product chat

This podcast is one of the best that discussing Ai business topics without getting to technical about the underlying tech. Real world advice from people active using and testing what they utilize.

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