22 episodes

Two frantic type-As with unreasonably high expectations of themselves on a mission to find that elusive trifecta: fulfilment, balance and success.
We explore ways people from all walks of life have built their businesses while they try to work out what success looks like for them. Our biggest lesson? The best life is the one that works for you.

The One That Works For You Martha Barnard-Rae + Liv Steigrad

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Two frantic type-As with unreasonably high expectations of themselves on a mission to find that elusive trifecta: fulfilment, balance and success.
We explore ways people from all walks of life have built their businesses while they try to work out what success looks like for them. Our biggest lesson? The best life is the one that works for you.

    #22 From hunting terrorists to raising women-led start-ups with Jemimah Ashleigh

    #22 From hunting terrorists to raising women-led start-ups with Jemimah Ashleigh

    Find out how a series of small changes led to a series of big changes and took Jemimah from AFP Criminal Intelligence Analyst to Visibility Bad 🐝. Learn how she can help you  grow and scale with practical advice that helps you get visible.   

    Jemimah Ashleigh is an award-winning entrepreneur, best-selling author and keynote speaker. 


    Here’s what went down:




    Jemimah shares the how she ‘followed the bunny’ down the Australian Federal Police to PR Queen pipeline


    Change happens in three stages: feathers, rocks, and trucks


    Jemimah explains the difference between intuition and gut feeling


    Jemimah has complicated feelings about fulfilment for entrepreneurs 


    Find out the switch Jemimah flipped to find balance in her life (26 mins)


    Jemimah slays the ‘how do you know you’ve had a successful day?’ question (and her response will surprise you)


    Learn how Jemimah supports women-led startups




    We also mentioned these people/things:




    Jemimah’s website

    Jemimah’s LinkedIn

    Jemimah’s Instagram

    Martha’s website

    Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

    Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram

    Liv’s website

    Liv’s LinkedIn

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    • 33 min
    21 Dené Logan doesn’t do things she hates (and you don’t have to either)

    21 Dené Logan doesn’t do things she hates (and you don’t have to either)

    Find out how a practice of kindness and compassion can pave the way for the type of life that lights you up. Dené Logan is a marriage and family therapist, facilitator, and co-host of the Cheaper than Therapy podcast.  Her first book, Sovereign Love: A Guide to Healing Relationships by Reclaiming the Masculine and Feminine Within, will be released in May 2024. 


    Here’s what went down:


    How Dené managed to carve out time to write an actual book


    What 2020 taught Dene about social boundaries


    How Dene prioritises when it comes to letting go of commitments


    Learn Dene’s non-negotiables for starting her day


    Internal Family Systems: Martha butchers a description of the only therapeutic modality that has ever worked for her


    Dené shares the tools she uses to get back to herself during times of overwhelm


    How re-parenting (inner child work) helps Dené hype herself up


    Radical self-forgiveness is the antidote to Dené’s anxiety


    Dené explains masculine and feminine energetics (and it goes all the way back to Carl Jung)


    Liv and Martha are #triggered by this discussion and Dené helps us understand the nuances


    How to reclaim the ability to talk about fem and masc identities while understanding that the binary is BS…


    …so we can integrate healthy masculine and feminine energies 


    Dené shares an easy system for a relationship check-in (and the importance of maintenance therapy for couples!)




    We also mentioned these people/things:

    Dené’s website

    Preorder Sovereign Love

    Dené’s Podcast—Cheaper Than Therapy

    Dené’s LinkedIn

    Dené’s Instagram

    Martha’s website

    Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

    Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram

    Liv’s website

    Liv’s LinkedIn



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    • 47 min
    #20 Integrate your personal mission into your work with Zoe Simmons

    #20 Integrate your personal mission into your work with Zoe Simmons

    Zoe shares the power of her advocacy work—in her life and business as well as in the disability community. She shares how she manages business ownership with a dynamic disability. Learn Zoe’s tips for prioritising your health while you manage the juggle. 

    Zoe Simmons is an award-winning journalist, copywriter, and disability advocate.


    Here’s what went down:


    Zoe shares the safeguards she puts in place as a business owner with dynamic disabilities


    She shares what she loves about being an advocate, writer, speaker


    Zoe makes the most of her varying energy levels by combining her interests with her job


    Zoe shares tips for people with dynamic disabilities


    Medical misogyny and the burden of navigating the health system when you’re sick (esp when you have a reduced capacity to earn an income) 


    How advocacy helped her deal with her rage about how society treats disabled people 


    How identifying as disabled helped Zoe create an intentional, joyous life 








    Zoe Simmons’ website

    Zoe’s LinkedIn

    Zoe’s Instagram



    Martha’s website

    Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

    Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram



    Liv’s website

    Liv’s LinkedIn

    Maintenance Phase podcast



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    • 48 min
    #19 How to love what you do every day with Amy Posner

    #19 How to love what you do every day with Amy Posner

    Amy Posner shares four questions to ask yourself if you want to work out what’s YOURS to do—so you can wake up each day and do what makes you excited. Amy opens up about her personal experiences with burnout and the pivotal life changes that led her to a period of ‘unproductivity’. Learn Amy’s tips to prepare your business for life’s inevitable transitions. Amy Posner is a serial entrepreneur who helps other people discover what's "theirs to do" and teaches them the business skills to make it their reality.






    Amy explores the process of recovering from burnout when you’re really attached to your work


    Amy shares how it feels to work on finding what she actually likes to do after a big life change  


    How do we work out what we actually like to do? 


    How do we shift from go-go-go to accepting a period of unproductivity?


    Amy’s first question for business coaching clients will help you find the essence of your business 


    Learn how Amy knows she’s had a successful day during a period of change


    How do we know when to ‘call it’ when the ‘productive’ day isn’t happening 


    Challenging the idea that work should be hard


    Amy challenges the idea that work should be hard—and shares her superpower


    Get the four questions to ask yourself if you want to work out what’s YOURS to do—so you can wake up each day and do what makes you excited


    The myth of your ‘Why’ (and how it’s OK to want to make money!)


    Amy’s tips for preparing your business for a period of illness or transition 




    We also mentioned these people/things:

    Amy Posner’s website

    Amy’s LinkedIn

    Martha’s website

    Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

    Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram

    Liv’s website

    Liv’s LinkedIn



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    • 39 min
    #18 All in the family: finding balance in an intercontinental family business with Nick Akkanen

    #18 All in the family: finding balance in an intercontinental family business with Nick Akkanen

    Running a family business with his romantic partner and his brother in law (across time zones, no less!) is a wild ride. Nick generously shared some of the highlights and challenges—and got real about how the business is scaffolded by family support. 

    Nick Akkanen heads up the graphic design stream of Pink Dog Studio, a retail branding agency based in Sydney and Santiago, Chile.   

    Here's what went down:


    Nick shares the story of how Pink Dog Studio niched down (and why you should niche down immediately) 


    Is it Smell-o-vision or Scent Branding? We’re still not sure


    Learn how much time Nick *aims* to spend each week on his brand


    Nick shares how he crafts a business plan that allows him to stay nimble


    Five minute jobs vs. eating the frog: Nick shares how he gets sh!t done on the daily


    Find out how Nick knew it was time to quit his 9-5 and jump in with both feet (and the essential nature of family support)


    Nick shares some of the highs and lows of business ownership between romantic partners


    …and gives some tips for couples thinking of going into business together



    We also mentioned these people/things:



    Pink Dog Studio

    Nick’s LinkedIn

    Pink Dog on Instagram

    Pink Dog on TikTok

    Grab a 30-minute brand consultation with Pink Dog Studio

    Martha’s website

    Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

    Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram

    Liv’s website

    Liv’s LinkedIn



    If you liked the podcast, please drop us a rating and send it to your friends. If you didn’t, it might be time to take a good, long look at yourself.

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    Get in touch by email—worksforyoupodcast@gmail.com

    • 41 min
    #17 End-of-life therapy lessons for a balanced business with Kirsty Fanton

    #17 End-of-life therapy lessons for a balanced business with Kirsty Fanton

    Kirsty Fanton shares the end-of-life psychotherapy lessons that inform her business. Listen up for practical tips for balancing your business and a chronic illness, and how to create a daily check-in practice to manage overwhelm. Kirsty is a coach, ex-psychotherapist, and a great question-asker. She provides copy, coaching, and strategy for online business owners.

    Here's what went down:





    Learn how Kirsty focuses each day on moving her business one tiny step closer to her vision and how she wants it to be serve and support her 


    Prioritisation vs. freedom and flow


    As a former psychotherapist, Kirsty shares how her expertise in grief and coping with long term illness informs her business now


    Learn what that work taught Kirsty about hindsight and regret—and the three key themes she took away from providing end-of-life therapy


    How informed consent can help you manage your business alongside a chronic illness (and how much you can/should share with clients)


    How boundaries can help you create the conditions you need to do your best work


    Martha shares how she creates buffers to accommodate for her ADHD—without making it her clients’ problem


    Legacy feels yucky to Liv because she’s self actualised AF


    Get Kirsty’s two key tips for identifying (and managing!) your capacity


    Identifying the capacity cost of certain tasks vs. the number of tasks


    Kirsty shares the three questions she asks herself during twice-daily check-ins and how to incorporate them into a daily practice 



    We also mentioned these people/things:

    Kirsty’s Reflective Practice Club

    Kirsty’s Instagram

    Kirsty’s LinkedIn

    The Business Badassery Podcast

    Martha’s website

    Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

    Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram

    Liv’s website

    Liv’s LinkedIn

    Lanae Carmichael

    Verity Byth—Business Strategist

    If you liked the podcast, please drop us a rating and send it to your friends. If you didn’t, it might be time to take a good, long look at yourself.

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    • 41 min

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