The True Cost of Growth: Nathan Barry's Honest Conversation

Nathan Barry is the founder and CEO of Kit (formerly ConvertKit). The platform now serves 600,000+ creators, including Tim Ferriss, Pat Flynn, and Terry himself. But that kind of growth doesn’t come without a cost. 

Today we will dive into the steep physical and mental cost that Nathan faced from tying his identity to productivity – and how he handled the fallout when he could no longer be productive. 

1:18  – Meet Nathan Berry: Founder and CEO of Kit

3:25 – The journey of building ConvertKit

7:27 – The creator economy and Kit's mission

13:02 – The importance of company culture

17:40 – Learning to say no

19:50 – Kit creator documentaries 

23:18 – Nathan’s journey to success

27:08 – The impact of overworking and health issues

30:39 – Struggling with depression and seeking help

36:57 – The importance of asking for help

43:00 – Leadership and realizing dreams

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