The Value Of Criticism With Jerry Hsu Say You Swear

Episode 25 features artist, art director, photographer, and (of course) skateboarder Jerry Hsu.

This episode is an extra special one for me due to my personal fandom of Jerry's work. From watching his Stay Gold b-sides nearly 100 times, wearing his Sci-Fi Fantasy label, owning his The Beautiful Flower Is The World photo-book; I have found myself immersed in Jerry's creative world since I was a teenager. This interview was months in the making and an absolute dream come true that I was able to create a platform that would invite such a personal hero :)

Throughout the interview we touch on several different subject matters from reflecting on his years of professional skating, his photo work, love of book making, running Sci-Fi, and even family. It was eye opening for me to hear about the immense pressure that skating can bring at that level and how psychologically tolling it can be.

It's too daunting for me to write out all that we discussed, but I will expound slightly on a part I did not expect...but really enjoyed. Jerry spoke about his wonderful relationship with his wife and how impactful/inspiring she has been in not only his life, but also his creative outlets. He explained how crucial it is to find a partner in life that can challenge you to be a better version of yourself. That having "yes" people around you can be detrimental to personal growth and that he supremely values how critical his wife can be. This is what I do this for! 

Humbled that this worked out and that it went so well. So so excited for everyone to hear this one. Much love