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The Thinking Elixir podcast is a weekly show where we talk about the Elixir programming language and the community around it. We cover news and interview guests to learn more about projects and developments in the community.
Whether you are already experienced with Elixir or just exploring the language, this show is created with you in mind. We discuss community news, Functional Programming, transitioning from OOP, coding conventions, and more.
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The Thinking Elixir podcast is a weekly show where we talk about the Elixir programming language and the community around it. We cover news and interview guests to learn more about projects and developments in the community.
Whether you are already experienced with Elixir or just exploring the language, this show is created with you in mind. We discuss community news, Functional Programming, transitioning from OOP, coding conventions, and more.
Guests visit the show to help challenge our assumptions, learn about new developments and grow in the process.
Subscribe to join us on this journey!

    212: Dueling with Wizards over ElixirConf!

    212: Dueling with Wizards over ElixirConf!

    In this episode of the Thinking Elixir Podcast, we dive into the exciting new Metal support in Nx, thanks to Paulo Valente's hard work, and discuss Chris McCord's impressive demo on deploying a distributed Elixir app with YugabyteDB. We also cover Paraxial.io's new free tier, the release of the REST client Polo, and the latest updates from the Peep library. Plus, a special collaboration with the Elixir Wizards crew previews ElixirConf 2024 with insights on training classes, talks, and strategies to make the most of the event. Tune in for tips on networking, keynotes, and all the reasons why this conference is a must-attend for Elixir enthusiasts!


    Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/212


    Elixir Community News



    https://x.com/polvalente/status/1811268492580024511 – Paulo Valente has done the work to make Nx work on Metal.
    https://developer.apple.com/metal/ – Metal is Apple's graphics and compute API and implementation layer for working with the AI/ML features of their M-series chips.
    https://groups.google.com/a/openxla.org/g/openxla-discuss/c/DnPUmpyk4y0 – Google Groups discussion that covers OpenXLA's overall architecture & components.
    https://x.com/chris_mccord/status/1811055874930028870 – Chris McCord was a guest on the YugabyteDB YouTube channel demonstrating deploying a distributed Elixir app and distributed YugabyteDB from scratch.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YugabyteDB – YugabyteDB is a distributed SQL database that aims to be strongly transactionally consistent across failure zones (i.e. ACID compliance).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utOXl3eWoA – Chris McCord's demonstration video on deploying distributed Elixir app and YugabyteDB.
    https://www.youtube.com/live/_utOXl3eWoA?si=Si04BP4WnqPk5vcs&t=877 – Video timestamp where Chris joins the show.
    https://paraxial.io/blog/paraxial-free – Paraxial.io now has a free plan for non-commercial use, no credit card required.
    https://rfp.dev/blog/a-rest-client-for-browsers?utm_source=elixir-merge – Blog post about Polo, a new REST client.
    https://github.com/readyforproduction/polo – Polo, a REST client similar to Postman but built in LiveView.
    https://x.com/germsvel/status/1813160145557283263 – German Velasco's tip of using :timer.minutes(5) for a more readable way of setting a timer value in milliseconds.
    https://github.com/rkallos/peep – Peep is an alternative OpenTelemetry metrics reporter that supports StatsD and Prometheus.
    https://elixirforum.com/t/peep-efficient-telemetrymetrics-reporter-supporting-prometheus-and-statsd/55901 – Peep 3.0 released with minor change to use maps instead of keyword lists.
    Personal Update from Mark - recently left working at Fly.io to pursue a full-time project.


    Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at show@thinkingelixir.com


    Discussion Resources



    https://ti.to/elixirconf/2024 – Use code ELIXIRPODCAST at checkout to get a $50 discount on your tickets to ElixirConf in Orlando August 27-30, 2024
    Favorite moments and experiences from previous ElixirConf events
    How to network and make the most of your conference attendance
    Training classes and talks we're looking forward to this year
    Keynotes from prominent Elixir community figures
    Chris McCord's keynote - TBD (Could it be a LiveView 1.0 announcement?!)
    Benefits of attending ElixirConf - learning, networking, community immersion
    Virtual attendance options for those unable to attend in person
    Why you should step out of your comfort zone and engage with others
    Passion and energy of Elixir community members at ElixirConf
    Mentorship opportunities - connect with experienced Elixir developers
    Exploring Orlando attractions during ElixirConf 2024 downtime
    An invitation to join us at ElixirConf 2024 and immerse yourself in the Elixir community
    https://2024.elixirconf.com/
    https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/Ecto.html
    https://fly.io/
    https://www.meetup.com/austin-elixir/
    https://grox.io/
    https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/P

    • 1 hr 13 min
    211: A Passion for Testing

    211: A Passion for Testing

    News includes the recent release of Elixir 1.17.2, updates to Livebook v0.13 making clustering in Kubernetes easier and introducing a proxy API for webhooks, and exciting developments in the Explorer library with remote dataframes. We also discuss handy Phoenix tips from Andrew Stewart and the new Gleam 1.3.0 features. In our interview, German Velasco shares his journey from Rails to Elixir, his contributions like Elixir Streams and the Phoenix Test library, and his philosophy on TDD. German also speaks about his upcoming talk at ElixirConf and his desire for integrating JavaScript testing capabilities. Tune in to hear all this and more!


    Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/211


    Elixir Community News



    https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/tag/v1.17.2 – Elixir 1.17.2 was released, which includes a Logger fix and some Mix-related bugfixes.
    Livebook updates - follow-up
    https://x.com/miruoss/status/1809633392088027193 – Michael Ruoss notes that Livebook v0.13 works well for clustering on Kubernetes.
    https://github.com/mruoss/livebook-helm – Michael Ruoss created a Livebook Helm chart for easier deployment in Kubernetes clusters.
    https://artifacthub.io/packages/helm/livebook/livebook – Helm chart for Livebook on Artifact Hub.
    https://news.livebook.dev/livebook-0.13-expose-an-http-api-from-your-notebook-2wE6GY – Livebook gains a proxy API to allow it to receive webhooks, useful for publishing Livebook as an app.
    https://x.com/livebookdev/status/1809203084154843279 – Details on the new proxy API feature in Livebook.
    https://x.com/hugobarauna/status/1809203637022863784 – Use Plug.Router and Kino.Proxy.listen for sending webhooks or events to your Livebook.
    https://www.elixirstreams.com/tips/liveview-used-input
    LiveView 1.0 removes the phx-feedback-for annotation for showing and hiding input feedback. The update introduces the used_input?/2 helper on the server-side.
    https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#backwards-incompatible-changes-for-10 – LiveView 1.0 Upgrade instructions, including a JavaScript shim for backwards compatibility.
    https://x.com/josevalim/status/1808560304172761191 – Explorer gets remote dataframes support.
    https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer/pull/932 – A PR was merged into Explorer to support remote dataframes, enabling transparent proxy operations in a cluster.
    Explorer is part of the Nx project for data analysis and machine learning, supporting one and two-dimensional data structures. The new feature also performs distributed garbage collection.
    https://x.com/src_rip/status/1810360113343115521 – Andrew Stewart shares a Phoenix tip on creating a link button to submit a post action without a form.
    https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/Phoenix.Component.html#link/1 – More details on using Phoenix's link component.
    https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/blob/f778e5bb1a4b0a29f8d688bbc6c0b7182dea51ca/lib/phoenix_component.ex#L2734-L2737 – Underlying implementation details of Phoenix.HTML's data attributes.
    https://gleam.run/news/auto-imports-and-tolerant-expressions/ – Gleam 1.3.0 release features LSP improvements, CLI commands for adding/removing dependencies, and support for Erlang/OTP 27 keywords.
    https://www.erlang-solutions.com/blog/let-your-database-update-you-with-ectowatch/ – EctoWatch by Brian Underwood allows notifications about database changes directly from PostgreSQL.
    https://github.com/cheerfulstoic/ecto_watch – EctoWatch GitHub repository.
    https://github.com/ityonemo/protoss – Isaac Yonemoto's Protoss library update, improving ergonomics of setting up protocols.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCRGgFkCkmA – Watch a video explaining the Protoss library.
    https://hexdocs.pm/protoss/Protoss.html – Protoss documentation.


    Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at show@thinkingelixir.com


    Discussion Resources



    https://www.elixirstreams.com/

    • 49 min
    210: A Bloom'n Fancy UI

    210: A Bloom'n Fancy UI

    In this episode, we dive into the launch of Bloom UI with its creator, Chris Gregori. Chris shares his motivations behind Bloom, an opinionated extension of Phoenix core components, aimed at simplifying UI development for Elixir and LiveView projects. We discuss its command-line utility for generating components, current features like avatars and marketing layouts, and potential future directions including expanded components and web component integration. Highlights include Chris's journey with Elixir, contributions from the community, and a strong emphasis on accessibility. Plus, we cover news on Livebook 0.13.x release, the viral "2 Million Checkboxes" project by Peter Ullrich, Tyler Young's updated Parameterized Tests, and more!


    Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/210


    Elixir Community News



    https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/blob/v0.13/CHANGELOG.md – Livebook 0.13.x release notes.
    https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/pull/2629 – FLAME support added by Chris McCord.
    https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/pull/2636 – List of connected distributed nodes displayed on the Runtime panel.
    https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/pull/2577 – Drag-and-drop support for xlsx-format.
    https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/pull/2519 – José Valim added LIVEBOOK_CLUSTER=auto to configure the cluster on Fly.io.
    The code editor now uses CodeMirror with improved design and performance.
    Cell evaluation time shows when the cell is stale or aborted.
    Hubs renamed to Workspaces.
    Elixir 1.17.1 and OTP 27 used in Docker image and desktop app.
    Long names mode for distribution used for easier clustering.
    Congratulations to the team and contributors with special mention of Jonatan Kłosko.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/1dqg0kr/efx_a_library_to_declaratively_write_testable/ – Introduction to Efx, a library to declaratively write testable effects.
    https://github.com/bravobike/efx – GitHub repository for Efx library.
    https://x.com/PJUllrich/status/1806646221592809482 – Peter Ullrich's tweet about "2 Million Checkboxes".
    https://x.com/PJUllrich/status/1806252631179850046 – Background on "one million checkboxes" written in Python + React.
    https://twomillioncheckboxes.com/ – Live website for "two million checkboxes" hosted on Fly.io.
    https://x.com/PJUllrich/status/1806649316963996153 – Peter Ullrich's tweet showing hardware performance and updates.
    https://github.com/PJUllrich/twomillioncheckboxes – GitHub project for "two million checkboxes" site.
    https://x.com/TylerAYoung/status/1806794015892996503 – Update and rename to Parameterized Tests by Tyler Young.
    https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v1180-dev – Elixir 1.18 changelog including parameterized tests in ExUnit.
    https://github.com/s3cur3/parameterized_test – Parameterized Tests GitHub repository.
    https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/13618 – Elixir pull request for parameterized tests feature.
    https://farens.me/blog/how-to-integrate-tabler-icons-into-your-phoenix-project – Blog post by Florian Arens on integrating Tabler Icons into Phoenix projects.
    https://tabler.io/icons – Tabler Icons website with 5325 free and open-source icons.
    https://github.com/acalejos/flint – Introduction to Flint by Andres Alejos, a library for Ecto embedded_schemas.
    https://x.com/germsvel/status/1808080927177814037 – German Velasco's tweet on an intro to tracing on the BEAM using the Recon library.
    https://www.elixirstreams.com/tips/tracing-with-recon – ElixirStreams post on tracing with Recon.
    https://github.com/ferd/recon/ – Recon GitHub repository.
    https://2024.elixirconf.com/ – ElixirConf 2024 Preview - August 28-30 with notable speakers and topics.


    Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at show@thinkingelixir.com


    Discussion Resources



    https://www.liveviewcookbook.com/ – My LiveView e-book The LiveView Cookbook
    https://youtube.com/@codestirring – Y

    • 1 hr 7 min
    209: New Admin Panel, LiveView Component Kit, and more!

    209: New Admin Panel, LiveView Component Kit, and more!

    News includes a neat trick we learned that setup-beam can do for GitHub actions by reading a project's .tool-versions file, Wojtek's insight on reducing SDK API surfaces, Ash's support for UUIDv7, the introduction of the highly customizable Backpex admin panel, a new LiveView component library called SaladUI and its unique ReactJS component conversion feature, Jose Valim's technique of using AI for testing function names, and more!


    Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/209


    Elixir Community News



    https://x.com/flo_arens/status/1805255159460532602 – TIL setup-beam GitHub action can read asdf's .tool-versions file and parse the OTP and Elixir version out of it.
    https://github.com/erlef/setup-beam – The setup-beam GitHub action project.
    https://github.com/erlef/setup-beam?tab=readme-ov-file#version-file – Link to README section about the version file support in setup-beam.
    https://dashbit.co/blog/sdks-with-req-stripe – Blog post by Wojtek on reducing the surface of SDK APIs by focusing on data, not functions.
    https://x.com/ZachSDaniel1/status/1805002425738334372 – Ash now supports UUIDv7, a Time-Sortable Identifier for modern databases.
    https://github.com/ash-project/ash/pull/1253 – GitHub pull request for Ash's support of UUIDv7.
    https://uuid7.com/ – Information about UUID7 as a Time-Sortable Identifier.
    https://elixirforum.com/t/backpex-a-highly-customizable-admin-panel-for-phoenix-liveview-applications/64314 – Introduction to Backpex, a new admin backend library for Phoenix LiveView applications.
    https://github.com/naymspace/backpex – GitHub repository for Backpex, a customizable administration panel for Phoenix LiveView applications.
    https://github.com/bluzky/salad_ui – SaladUI, a Tailwind LiveView UI toolkit that includes a unique feature to convert ReactJS components.
    https://salad-storybook.fly.dev/welcome – Storybook for SaladUI to explore components.
    https://ui.shadcn.com/ – React Shad/cn UI component framework storybook page.
    https://salad-storybook.fly.dev/examples/convert_shadui – Example of converting a ReactJS component to SaladUI.
    https://github.com/codedge-llc/accessible – Accessible, a package to add Access behavior support to Elixir structs.
    https://paraxial.io/blog/owasp-top-ten – Blog post on how the OWASP Top 10 applies to Elixir and Phoenix applications.
    https://owasp.org/www-project-top-ten/ – The OWASP Top 10, a standard awareness document for developers and web application security.
    https://x.com/josevalim/status/1804117870764339546 – José Valim's technique of using AI to help review or determine function names in APIs.
    https://fly.io/phoenix-files/using-ai-to-boost-accessibility-and-seo/ – Article on using AI to boost image accessibility and SEO, demonstrating working with OpenAI and Anthropic using Elixir.
    https://2024.elixirconf.com/ – ElixirConf 2024 details, taking place from August 28-30 with various speakers and talks focused on Elixir.


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    • 36 min
    208: Elixir 1.17, Phoenix Playground and more

    208: Elixir 1.17, Phoenix Playground and more

    This week's show features the latest releases Elixir 1.17.0 and 1.17.1, bringing improved type inference and a new Duration data type. We'll also dive into Phoenix Playground's streamlined approach to single-file applications, José Valim shares another Elixir academic research project taking shape on set-theoretic types for behaviors, and updates from the Igniter project on enhancing code generation and project patching. With a look at how Phoenix and Inertia.js are joining forces and the latest on Nx Scholar's new version for machine learning, this episode is packed with cutting-edge developments in the Elixir community, and more!


    Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/208


    Elixir Community News



    https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/tag/v1.17.0 – Release information for Elixir version 1.17.0.
    https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/tag/v1.17.1 – Release information for Elixir version 1.17.1.
    https://x.com/davydog187/status/1800962252125667748 – Dave Lucia shared how Elixir 1.17.0 helped find a bug using new type information.
    https://x.com/josevalim/status/1801000076497539482 – José shared additional academic research being started on Elixir for set-theoretic types
    https://x.com/wojtekmach/status/1802975489230811354 – Wojtek Mach's announcement of "Phoenix Playground" for creating single-file Phoenix apps.
    https://dashbit.co/blog/announcing-phoenix-playground – Blog post about the announcement of Phoenix Playground.
    https://github.com/phoenix-playground/phoenix_playground – GitHub repository for Phoenix Playground.
    https://github.com/inertiajs/inertia-phoenix – GitHub repository for Inertia.js Phoenix LiveView adapter.
    https://inertiajs.com/ – Official site of Inertia.js, explaining its concept and features.
    https://github.com/DockYard/flame_on – Update announcement for FlameOn from Dockyard, now with SVG download capability.
    https://tylerbarker.com/posts/liveview-is-not-a-zero-js-framework-it-s-a-zero-boring-js-framework – Blog post explaining why LiveView is referred to as a "zero-boring-js" framework.
    https://github.com/membraneframework-labs/ex_vision/ – Repository for ExVision, using ONNX bindings for AI model integration.
    https://github.com/cocoa-xu/evision – EVision which uses OpenCV bindings.
    https://elixir-nx.github.io/axon/onnx_to_axon.html – Guide on converting ONNX models to Axon.
    https://github.com/ash-project/igniter – GitHub repository for Igniter, aiming to solve issues with composable mix generators.
    https://elixirforum.com/t/igniter-a-code-generation-and-project-patching-framework/64181 – Elixir forum discussion on Igniter framework's capabilities and applications.
    https://x.com/josevalim/status/1803040816404849008 – José announced the release of Nx Scholar v0.3.1, featuring new embedded notebooks.
    https://hexdocs.pm/scholar/manifold_learning.html – Documentation on manifold learning in Nx Scholar v0.3.1.
    https://x.com/yevkurtov/status/1800851584827711607 – Yevhenii Kurtov shared a guide on ES/CQRS with EventStoreDB and Phoenix/LiveView.
    https://kurtov.pro/blog/2024/06/an-end-to-end-es/cqrs-example-with-eventstoredb-and-phoenix/liveview/ – Blog detailing an end-to-end example of ES/CQRS implementation.
    https://github.com/commanded/commanded – GitHub repository for Commanded, a library for CQRS/ES architectures.
    https://learn.eventstore.com/an-end-to-end-example-with-eventstoredb – Official guide on implementing end-to-end examples with EventStoreDB.
    https://x.com/CodeBEAMio/status/1800918581225431318 – CodeBEAM conference announcement, set to take place in Berlin.
    https://codebeameurope.com/ – Official site for CodeBEAM Europe conference details.


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    • 31 min
    207: Poison v6 is Waaay Faster and Drama Turns Productive

    207: Poison v6 is Waaay Faster and Drama Turns Productive

    News includes the release of Poison v6.0.0, making it faster than ever, the discontinuation of the Lumen/Firefly project, and a new accessibility testing library for Elixir web apps. José Valim discusses managing client and server state with Phoenix LiveView, and there's a showcase of an AI Emoji generator written in Elixir. Tickets for ElixirConfUS 2024 are now available with exciting options for training and speakers, plus a surprise announcement for the event's emcee, and more!


    Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/207


    Elixir Community News



    https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/s/V5StIsdcbP – Poison v6.0.0 release announcement discussing its performance improvements.
    https://github.com/devinus/poison – Poison v6.0.0 GitHub repository.
    https://gist.github.com/devinus/afb351ae45194a6b93b6db9bf2d4c163 – Benchmark comparisons of Poison with other JSON libraries.
    https://github.com/devinus/poison/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md – Poison v6.0.0 CHANGELOG detailing new features and improvements.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/s/ciFzDvfzZL – Announcement that Lumen/Firefly project is discontinued.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/1dca6sl/comment/l7yw6sd/ – Brian Cardarella explains why DockYard discontinued the Lumen/Firefly project.
    https://x.com/src_rip/status/1800210232150470999 – Highlighting a new feature in Elixir 1.17.
    https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/1.17.0-rc.1/Kernel.html#get_in/2-working-with-structs – Kernel.get_in/2 now works with structs in Elixir 1.17.
    https://mas.to/@angelikatyborska/112590587923208917 – New A11yAudit test library for automated accessibility testing in Elixir.
    https://angelika.me/2024/06/10/automated-accessibility-testing-for-elixir-web-apps/ – Blog post about implementing automated accessibility checks in Elixir web apps.
    https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/50 – Podcast episode with Angelika Tyborska.
    https://x.com/charliebholtz/status/1700170783589277996 – AI Emoji generator written in Elixir by Charlie Holtz.
    https://github.com/cbh123/emoji – GitHub repository for the AI Emoji generator.
    https://dashbit.co/blog/web-apps-have-client-and-server-state – José Valim's blog post on handling client and server state in web applications with Phoenix LiveView.
    https://github.com/woutdp/live_svelte – Svelte inside Phoenix LiveView for seamless reactivity.
    https://x.com/j_tormey/status/1799859208709677512 – Justin created a LiveView Slack clone to showcase Phoenix and LiveView capabilities.
    https://github.com/fly-apps/live_beats – LiveBeats improvement and bug fixes in Phoenix LiveView.
    https://x.com/ElixirConf/status/1799829176427463035 – Announcement of ElixirConfUS 2024 tickets availability.
    David will be the emcee for ElixirConfUS 2024.


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    • 30 min

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