24 episodes

A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in occupational therapy practice.

Two Sides of the Spectrum Meg Proctor

    • Education
    • 4.8 • 58 Ratings

A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in occupational therapy practice.

    A Family-Centered Approach to PDA with Kristy Forbes

    A Family-Centered Approach to PDA with Kristy Forbes

    Kristy Forbes. Kristy is an autistic support specialist for neurodivergent people and their families and professionals. She is the Founding Director of both inTune Pathways and The Neurodivergent Co. Kristy is autistic with ADHD and a Pathological Demand Avoidant (PDA) profile. She is also the mother to 4 autistic kids. Tune into the episode where we dive deep into how we can support our PDA autistic clients within their family systems.

    • 44 min
    Pathological Demand Avoidance and the Drive for Autonomy with Harry Thompson

    Pathological Demand Avoidance and the Drive for Autonomy with Harry Thompson

    Harry Thompson is a UK-based public speaker and writer who is autistic with a Pathological Demand Avoidance profile. Through his work Harry aims to bring more acceptance and joy to the lives of people who are autistic and have a PDA profile. Join us in episode 23 as we explore the challenges and unique strengths of PDAers, and what those of us supporting autistic people should know about PDA.

    • 58 min
    Authenticity & Gender Expression with Christa Holmans, The Neurodivergent Rebel

    Authenticity & Gender Expression with Christa Holmans, The Neurodivergent Rebel

    Christa Holmans is an autistic self-advocate from Texas who runs the neurodiversity lifestyle blog Neurodivergent Rebel. In episode 22, you’ll learn about Christa’s own experience as a gender fluid autistic person. And we’ll tie this into authenticity in general, including what we can all be doing in our sessions to support positive identity around gender and sexuality.

    • 39 min
    Self-Advocacy & Inclusivity: Changing the Paradigm with Zosia Zaks

    Self-Advocacy & Inclusivity: Changing the Paradigm with Zosia Zaks

    Zosia Zaks is a certified rehabilitation counselor, author, and autistic self-advocate. He manages the Towson University's Hussman Center for Adults with Autism, where he teaches service-learning courses that examine autism through a social justice lens. In episode 21, Zosia talks about self-advocacy, attitudinal adjustments, how neurodiversity benefits everyone, and so much more.

    • 59 min
    Pro-Neurodiversity Practices in Action with Jacklyn Googins & Greg Boheler

    Pro-Neurodiversity Practices in Action with Jacklyn Googins & Greg Boheler

    Jacklyn Googins in the cofounder of OTs for Neurodiversity and the founder of B3 Coffee, an inclusive pop-up coffee stand in Chapel Hill, NC. Greg Boheler, who is autistic, is the cofounder of OTs for Neurodiversity and a board member for B3 Coffee. Listen to episode 21 where we explore how pro-neurodiversity practices and inclusive workplaces can truly benefit everyone.

    • 40 min
    The Double Empathy Problem with Dr. Damian Milton

    The Double Empathy Problem with Dr. Damian Milton

    Damian Milton is an autistic researcher whose idea spawned a huge shift in how we think about autism. In this episode, listen in as we explore:

    - How Damian developed his hypothesis that the trouble with empathy and social skills is a two-way street between autistic and non-autistic people, not a deficit of autistic people

    - What early research Damian did to confirm this hypothesis

    - One thing Damian would love to see OTs stop doing with social stories and comic strip interventions with autistic clients

    - A tip for how to better approach sensory processing challenges with autistic kids, with a cautionary tale from his own life

    • 38 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
58 Ratings

58 Ratings

OT Time Today ,

Better than most continuing education

As an OT, I get more out of Meg’s thoughtful podcasts then most continuing ed courses! These podcasts cause you to reflect on your own practice with autistic clients and make immediate beneficial change. Worth every minute.

Selenanp18 ,

So helpful for a piano teacher

I’m a piano teacher, not an OT, but I work with a lot of autistic students. This information is life changing! I’m learning so much about how to work with my students based on their STRENGTHS. I’ve observed OTs in schools targeting strictly fine motor skills or sensory integration, so I’ve always compartmentalized those things in my mind too. Now I see that they’re part of a much bigger picture and that we should teach based on strengths rather than make goals based on deficits.

HH REV II ,

Writing Strengths Based Goals

Definitely made me want to go through all my clients’ goals and revamp them! By the way, this information is extremely helpful for not just our neurodivergent clients but ALL my clients! Loved the part about calling out handwriting goals. Now we just need to bring everyone on board. Many thanks.

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