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Osgoode Hall Law School Professor Richard Haigh and his student co-host Adam Lachance get together to discuss the in's and out's of Canadian law school life while attempting to be funny. Sit down, shut up, and don't forget to do your readings. https://whatslaw.podbean.com.

What's Law Got To Do With It? Richard Haigh & Adam Lachance

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Osgoode Hall Law School Professor Richard Haigh and his student co-host Adam Lachance get together to discuss the in's and out's of Canadian law school life while attempting to be funny. Sit down, shut up, and don't forget to do your readings. https://whatslaw.podbean.com.

    53. Where's Adam?

    53. Where's Adam?

    Richard and Adam are joined by NOBODY again in this episode of WLGTDWI. The topic of this podcast is best not revealed in the notes, as it's too painful. Just listen.
     
    Music Attribution:
    What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)
    by Tina Turner
    Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic 

    • 13 min
    52. Law School Forums Lie

    52. Law School Forums Lie

    Richard and Adam are joined by Jeremy Nason (Zooming in from New Brunswick). Adam comes up with a Criminal Code provision dealing with "creep capturers." No one knows if he's making stuff up. Jeremy names a TV show, How to Get Away with Murder and a movie,  A Time to Kill. Adam recommends Goliath. Not sure why but then Richard then jumps on the bandwagon and recommends All Rise, which is not well-received.
     
    Jeremy describes how his law school experience was impossible to prepare for as nothing he read or heard was accurate: law school forums lie. The ways of learning before law school, and the way you think before law school were different; classmates were different but they all have the same goal. His highlight, unexpectedly, was the support systems that law schools have. He had no idea that everyone would care! Richard wonders whether he should read the law school forums. Adam thinks that this podcast takes the place of any forum.
     
    Asked to find some problem with law school, Jeremy critiques the false importance of some aspects. Richard thinks that’s a teaching technique. Adam felt same way, as law school was initially a life or death struggle, but then realized that one thing you have to learn is to get comfortable with those he calls catastrophizers (Richard should have commented that there's no such word). Adam, upon further reflection, thinks students need to go through the catastrophe thinking, but develop an immunity to it eventually.
     
    Jeremy wonders if COVID was divine intervention as it definitely helped put things in perspective. In terms of the coming year, Jeremy feels remote learning may not be ideal, but there are ways to make it work. In answer to Adam's last question as to what unorthodox study habits he has, Jeremy discusses how he would quiz himself or talk to concepts through while walking around as it helped focus his mind.  A treadmill in every library would allow for more of this.
     
    Music Attribution:
    What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)
    by Tina Turner
    Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic 

    • 28 min
    51. Trust Me

    51. Trust Me

    Richard and Adam are joined again by Kali Dimitrakoudis, who recently finished 1L at Osgoode Hall Law School. She nominates How to Get Away With Murder as her favourite this time (which Richard finds appallingly unrealistic).
     
    Adam is studying for Bar Ad exams while social distancing and Richard laments that they are all remote from each other. Adam and Kali go on about the Socratic method and cold-calling again, as Kali has a near "sister act" going on with Sabah, relating her experience in Criminal law class. Kali says she trusted Richard because of listening to the podcast before she began law school.
     
    Adam researched quickly while recording the podcast and found a provision in the Assisted Human Reproduction Act and learned you can’t do the gametes thing in Canada. He relates it to the Handmaid’s Tale but it means he admits he has no questions for Kali. All of them discuss doing extra-curricular activities at law school: Kali went to the national negotiation competition in New Brunswick, and they discuss the importance of negotiation in law. Adam talks about his attending the Canadian Client Competition in Edmonton and both of them talk about the bonding that occurs during these types of competitions. Richard explains how he was in the only year at his law school – in its entire 100+ years of existence – that did not have a moot program, so he never got involved in mooting or other forms of oral advocacy.
     
    They discuss course selection, a highlight of the summer term for law students. Adam “crushed” his course selection because he thought it was a competition. Kali decides to let Adam make her course selections for her. They finish off by figuring out how one can maximize their course selection.
     
    Music Attribution:
    What's Love Got to Do With It (Symphonic Version)
    by Tina Turner
    Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic
     

    • 26 min
    50. Cold Calls & Cannibals

    50. Cold Calls & Cannibals

    Richard and Adam are joined by Sabah Kalim, a returning guest who recently finished 1L at Osgoode Hall Law School. Sabah contemplates whether she’s now a 2L or not; Adam compares the switchover to a birthday. Paper Chase is nominated as her favourite movie (which takes Richard aback given its age); she relates how first class in Criminal law students were “cold-called” upon just like in the movie; Sabah admits she wouldn’t have known the facts of the case so is glad she wasn’t the chosen one.
     
    The group discusses the pandemic and how it will change law school; Adam talks about double uncertainty for the process of finding a job; Richard doesn’t know what he’s talking about but Sabah seems to understand. They chat about online examinations. Richard talks about redesigning his course (which he doesn’t want to be held accountable for, since his thoughts were expressed in early May!)
     
    Sabah talks about her varsity athletic career and how she viewed that as a law student;  Adam has only used the term “varsity” three times in his life. Sabah admits that her extracurriculars at law school included being on Angelica’s 22 Minute Workout on One TV. Adam tasks Sabah with developing a workout routine for the podcast
     
    Music Attribution:
     
    What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)by Tina Turner
    Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic 

    • 24 min
    49. Getting Involved - YMMV

    49. Getting Involved - YMMV

    Richard and Adam are joined by Viktor Hohlacov, who recently finished 1L at Osgoode Hall Law School. Adam finds a criminal code provision - defence of property - that is controversial and possibly ill-drafted. Adam has gone back in time and about to enter law school. Adam, Richard and Vik continue the existential question of when 1L ends and a new moniker begins. Adam realizes what question to ask a student who has just finished first year. Vik claims law school is the most challenging and rewarding thing he’s done. The group discuss getting involved in extra curricular activities.

    All engage in a lengthy discussion about student government. Richard doesn’t realize that Vik has NOT BEEN on student government, but WILL BE on student government next year. Vik notes the amount of readings required for law school is significant, and how it may be different between first and second semester. Adam disagrees, even though he has yet to go to law school (at least in his time traveller mode). Pub nights were a highlight for Vik; Adam wonders  if faculty have a pub night. Isolation naturally lends itself to discussion about haircuts. Richard tells the story of getting his haircut with horse clippers while a law student

    Richard asks for advice teaching Criminal law by Zoom; Vik explains how just showing crimes happening in the streets of Toronto may be beneficial. Adam’s final question asks Vik to give a unique study strategy from his 1L.

    Music Attribution:

    What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)
    by Tina Turner
    Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic

    • 26 min
    48. JD/MBA 1L* - *Asterisks on Asterisks

    48. JD/MBA 1L* - *Asterisks on Asterisks

    Richard and Adam are joined by Conor Fitzgerald, a 1L student at Osgoode Hall Law School enrolled in the Joint JD/MBA Program. Conor talks about his unique background and his pursuit of the joint MBA/JD program***. Conor was part of the Arts, Media and Entertainment program at Schulich, where he was exposed to 1Ls before 1L. The group talk about the rhythm of law school. Conor reflects on coming into law school knowing how to fail. Richard and Conor talk about their class without jokes before Conor reveals a deep hatred (kidding) for Richard's classes.
     
    Check out Conor's Projects:
     
    Bygone Theatre https://www.bygonetheatre.com/
    The Toronto Independent Theatre Coalition https://www.thetitc.ca/
     
    Music Attribution:
    What's Love Got to Do with It (Symphonic Version)by Tina Turner
    Buy now: https://VA.lnk.to/80sSymphonic 

    • 30 min

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