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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist is a podcast for seekers, dreamers, and questioners that intimately explores the human experience. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. She invites guests from a broad variety of disciplines and many walks of life, including researchers, writers, artists, healers, advocates, inventive outliers, and creative geniuses. Together, they investigate, illuminate, and inspire transformation - in the self, relationships, and society. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s uniquely interdisciplinary psychological lens tackles challenging social issues while encouraging personal and relational wellness. Join this journey through the inner wilderness.

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist Stephanie Winn

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    • 4.5 • 130 Ratings

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist is a podcast for seekers, dreamers, and questioners that intimately explores the human experience. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. She invites guests from a broad variety of disciplines and many walks of life, including researchers, writers, artists, healers, advocates, inventive outliers, and creative geniuses. Together, they investigate, illuminate, and inspire transformation - in the self, relationships, and society. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s uniquely interdisciplinary psychological lens tackles challenging social issues while encouraging personal and relational wellness. Join this journey through the inner wilderness.

    98. Trans to Detrans: A Graphic Novel Journey from Self-Hate to Self-Compassion, with Nicolas Blooms

    98. Trans to Detrans: A Graphic Novel Journey from Self-Hate to Self-Compassion, with Nicolas Blooms

    In this episode, I sit down with Nicholas Blooms, a detransitioner, artist, and creator of a unique graphic novel. Nicholas shares his profound journey of detransitioning, delving into the spiritual and emotional aspects of reclaiming his sense of self and finding a sustainable, embodied way of living. I explain my current model of how gender dysphoria changes over time along the spectrum between ego-syntonic and ego-dystonic — a key piece of psychological insight missing from the current culture wars over the treatment of gender-distressed youth — and we compare my hypothesis with Nicolas’ lived experience.

    Together, we explore the transformative powers of mentorship, mindfulness, and self-acceptance, touching on the deep wounds of childhood and the impact of societal pressures on identity. But what led Nicholas to create a detransition graphic novel, unlike anything seen before? How did a chance encounter with a mentor spark a journey of healing and self-discovery? And what role did gender ideology play in Nicholas's struggle with self-hatred and body dysmorphia? Tune in to uncover the answers and join us on a heartfelt exploration of resilience, growth, and the power of embracing one's true self.

    Nicolas Blooms is a Detransitioner, Gender Shaman, and ArtSoulogist. He is full of fruity passion to create ways for people to spark the deeper magical wisdom within their hearts. While training as a life coach to guide Detransitioners and gender confused individuals, he also co-creates a children’s book series, You Can’t Steal My Smile, with his friend Kim O, a Relational Soul Coach (from episode 80!), to empower children to root in their inner resilience. Witness his liberating journey to self-love and remembering his Soul by soaking in his graphic novel: Trans to Detrans: A Soul Solution. It’s totally possible to heal gender dysphoria and any other mental dis-ease!

    Find Nicolas Blooms: linktr.ee/nicolasblooms
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolasblooms
    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@NicolasBlooms

    Books mentioned in this episode:
    Trans to Detrans: A Soul Solution by Nicolas Blooms Saguaro Soul children's book series - Nicolas Blooms and Kim OI Want Prickles Too! Roe the Rabbit Lost His Happy HopAll books mentioned on this podcast can be found in my bookshop or by following the Amazon affiliate links. Thank you for purchases that support the show.

    00:00 Start
    [00:01:41] Detransition graphic novel creation.
    [00:06:16] Mentorship and spirituality.
    [00:10:50] Mentorship and self-transformation.
    [00:13:36] Rejecting masculinity and identity.
    [00:19:30] Gender identity exploration.
    [00:22:39] War with self-image.
    [00:25:27] Gender transition and family support.
    [00:31:25] Emotional expression and self-identity.
    [00:35:26] Cultural challenges and self-identity.
    [00:39:26] Overcoming childhood bullying trauma.
    [00:44:20] Battle with body image.
    [00:46:48] The power of hope.
    [00:51:54] Gender euphoria and emotional instability.
    [00:54:48] Gender dysphoria and self-expression.
    [01:02:06] Inner conflict and self-discovery.
    [01:06:18] Gender ideology as a virus.
    [01:07:01] Healing within family systems.
    [01:12:48] Ego dystonic and ego syntonic.
    [01:14:33] Gender dysphoria progression.
    [01:19:21] Overcoming gender dysphoria.
    [01:23:14] Stories of victory and resolution.


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    • 1 hr 25 min
    97. Healthcare Ethics & Philosophy with Jennifer Lahl, Karen King, & Jake Wiskerchen

    97. Healthcare Ethics & Philosophy with Jennifer Lahl, Karen King, & Jake Wiskerchen

    Today I welcome back former guests Jennifer Lahl, Karen King, and Jake Wiskerchen for a collegial group chat. We catch up on their latest projects, including Jennifer’s new documentary on detrans men, The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood, and Karen’s Ideological Oasis group for counseling graduates and interns.

    We dive into the topics of distress tolerance, emotion regulation, and parenting. We also touch on the latest news, including the recent New York Times article on detransitioners Stephanie was featured in and the growing backlash against the medicalization of gender dysphoria. Throughout the episode, we examine the underlying philosophical and societal issues that contribute to the current state of mental health care.

    Jennifer Lahl is an author, filmmaker, and founder of The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network. Her films include Trans Mission: What’s the Rush to Reassign Gender? (2021), The Detransition Diaries: Saving Our Sisters (2022), and The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood (2024). Her new book, The Detransition Diaries (co-authored with Kallie Fell, from episode 60) also came out this year. She was originally featured in episode 52, Surrogacy: Liberation or Exploitation? with Jennifer Lahl.

    Karen King is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in Washington who provides clinical supervision, ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, and education on psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. She created The Ideological Oasis, a place where interns and graduate students can find support and clinical clarity through group and individual mentorship. Find her offerings at Ideologicaloasis.com and more about her psychedelic work at karencking.com. She was originally featured in episode 81, The State of Psychedelic Therapy in 2023: Karen King on Ketamine, MDMA, & Institutional Capture.

    Jake Wiskerchen is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Nevada; founder and CEO of Zephyr Wellness; and host of the podcasts Noggin Notes and Guns and Mental Health. In partnership with Walk the Talk America, he offers low-cost CEU trainings to therapists on cultural competency in working with firearms owners. He was originally featured in episode 2, Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT: Demystifying Firearms and Other Taboo Topics in Mental Health.

    Books mentioned in this episode:
    Irreversible Damage by Abigail ShrierFeminism Against Progress by Mary HarringtonThe Detransition Diaries by Jennifer Lahl and Kallie FellAll books mentioned on this podcast can be found at sometherapist.com/bookshop or by following the Amazon affiliate links here. Either way, purchases support the show. Thank you!

    00:00 Start
    [00:02:33] Surrogacy and exploitation.
    [00:05:01] Detransitioning and mental health.
    [00:08:56] Erosion of medical ethics.
    [00:12:06] Therapy ethics and ideologies.
    [00:16:30] Ethical base and biological reality.
    [00:19:37] Mental health professionals and detransitioners.
    [00:24:05] Medical scandals and public awareness.
    [00:27:43] Lack of preventative care.
    [00:30:08] Compassion and enabling the problem.
    [00:34:21] Unconscious sadism in our culture.
    [00:37:06] Shifting Philosophical Perspectives.
    [00:41:30] Ethical codes in counseling.
    [00:45:36] Seeking consent in ethical debates.
    [00:48:11] Medically transitioning children at 15.
    [00:54:26] Psychedelics and disindoctrination.
    [00:56:08] Exploring unconventional therapeutic practices.
    [01:02:03] Unlocking the potential within.
    [01:04:10] Threats to establishments and effectiveness.
    [01:08:09] Our essential nature.
    [01:11:37] The process of self-discovery.
    [01:15:36] The duties of adolescence.
    [01:20:54] Calling to task the medical profession.
    [01:24:40] Creating parallel economies.

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    • 1 hr 30 min
    96. From Cult to Gender Clinic: Misdiagnosis, Detransition & Healing — Layton, part 2

    96. From Cult to Gender Clinic: Misdiagnosis, Detransition & Healing — Layton, part 2

    In part two of my conversation with Layton, she continues to share her journey of navigating the trauma of leaving a cult, bad therapy, the harmful effects of the trans medical industrial complex, and how she finally found wholeness.
    Missed part 1? Listen to episode 95 here.

    Layton opens up about her experience of undergoing synthetic testosterone as a female and the traumatic impact it had on her body and mind. We delve into the dangerous territory of misdiagnosis and the lack of consideration for her PTSD, dissociation, and other comorbidities by therapists and gender clinics. Layton shares her frustration at not being given the opportunity to explore healing from her trauma before being pushed towards medical gender transition.

    As the conversation unfolds, we explore the boundaries crossed by Layton's therapist and the power dynamics at play. How did her therapist so egregiously overlook her real needs? What countertransference issues on the part of the therapist might have contributed to this massive ethical breach? We touch on the sadistic element that may have influenced her therapist's actions and the flattery used to manipulate and groom Layton. We also discuss the importance of ethical boundaries in therapy and the potential harm caused by therapists who fail to manage their countertransference.

    Layton shares her journey of self-discovery and the pivotal moment when she started to question her decision to transition. Through somatic therapy, nervous system regulation, and healing her PTSD, she began to reconnect with her body and realized that she didn't have gender dysphoria. We explore the process of reconciling with her womanhood and the challenges she faced in finding her true identity.

    Layton is an Anthroposophical artist, Somatic practitioner, YouTuber, and detransitioner. Having left a religious cult, and then the social cult that is Gender Ideology, she is passionate about educating others about mental health, healing and spirituality in a way that heavily emphasizes self-trust and personal autonomy. While she doesn't consider herself to be an activist, she is vocal in regards to the medicalisation of children and vulnerable adults under the guise of "Gender Affirming Care.”
    Visit her website at PsychicSomatic.com
    X: @origina1ange1
    Psychic Somatic YouTube Channel

    00:00 Start
    [00:00:00] Trauma of synthetic testosterone.
    [00:07:36] The dangers of misinformed therapy.
    [00:10:16] Comorbidities and transitioning.
    [00:12:28] Medical prioritization and mental health.
    [00:16:41] Dissociation and identity building.
    [00:22:16] Sadistic elements in therapy.
    [00:25:12] Therapist-client boundaries and detransitioners.
    [00:29:36] Projection and vulnerability in therapy.
    [00:36:28] Lack of boundaries.
    [00:39:37] Faux sense of connection.
    [00:43:41] Detransitioning and self-discovery.
    [00:48:09] Identity and self-discovery.
    [00:52:13] Dissociation and Fragmentation.
    [00:56:36] Nervous system self-care.
    [01:02:31] Self-discovery and inner healing.
    [01:06:06] Histamine intolerance and allergies.
    [01:10:03] Anaphylactic symptoms and restrictions.
    [01:14:07] Hormonal effects of testosterone.
    [01:18:43] Unconditional love and boundaries.
    [01:22:06] Generational longing for unconditional love.
    [01:25:33] Esoteric Christianity and Anthroposophy.
    [01:30:10] Trauma and medical mistreatment.
    [01:35:11] Admitting mistakes and ego death.
    [01:40:11] Craving stability in your 30s.
    [01:44:09] Join my community.

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    • 1 hr 45 min
    95. Transing the Gay Away? Cults, Actual Conversion Therapy, & Dissociation: part 1 with Layton

    95. Transing the Gay Away? Cults, Actual Conversion Therapy, & Dissociation: part 1 with Layton

    Today I’m excited to bring you part 1 of a fascinating conversation with Layton, a detransitioner who shares her journey of leaving a religious cult and the subsequent challenges she faced. We delve into her experiences with actual gay conversion therapy, where she was told that her homosexuality was a form of cannibalism and a result of trauma. Layton opens up about the psychological manipulation and shame she endured during this time, and how it laid the groundwork for dissociation and vulnerability to further exploitation.

    We also explore the aftermath of leaving the cult and the difficulties Layton faced as she tried to navigate the outside world. She shares her struggles with trust, identity, and finding a sense of safety. We discuss the impact of her traumatic experiences on her mental health and how an earnest search for psychological help led her to end up pushed down the trans rabbit hole by an unscrupulous therapist who Layton has now filed a lawsuit against.

    This is part 1 of a two-part conversation; be on the lookout for part 2 next week!

    Layton is an Anthroposophical artist, Somatic practitioner, YouTuber, and detransitioner. Having left a religious cult, and then the social cult that is Gender Ideology, she is passionate about educating others about mental health, healing and spirituality in a way that heavily emphasizes self-trust and personal autonomy. While she doesn't consider herself to be an activist, she is vocal in regards to the medicalisation of children and vulnerable adults under the guise of "Gender Affirming Care.”
    Visit her website at PsychicSomatic.com
    X: @origina1ange1
    Psychic Somatic YouTube Channel


    00:00 Start
    [00:02:21] Gender-affirming care and malpractice.
    [00:06:08] Conversion therapy experiences.
    [00:10:46] Gay conversion therapy experience.
    [00:13:40] Trauma and Homosexuality.
    [00:19:08] Harmful treatment of lesbian identity.
    [00:22:42] Bizarre restrictions on personal relationships.
    [00:27:07-00:27:17] Learning about heterosexual relationships.
    [00:30:31] Affiliated cults and experiences.
    [00:36:45] Religious abuse and hypnosis.
    [00:39:18] Traumatic experiences in cult.
    [00:43:31] Forming a secret connection.
    [00:48:52] Leaving a high control environment.
    [00:52:02] Leaving one abusive relationship.
    [00:57:51] Feeling like a trans woman.
    [00:59:20] Dissociation and therapist's diagnosis.
    [01:06:09] Therapist's grandiosity and ego.
    [01:08:42] Dissociation and gender identity.
    [01:11:57] Podcast promotion and engagement.

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    Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.
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    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
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    • 1 hr 12 min
    94. Conquering OCD & Behavioral Addiction: the Power of Mindset, with Dr. Johann D’Souza

    94. Conquering OCD & Behavioral Addiction: the Power of Mindset, with Dr. Johann D’Souza

    In this episode, I dive into the fascinating world of OCD and addiction with psychologist and podcast host, Dr. Johann D'Souza. We explore the concept of OCD as a form of behavioral addiction. Dr. D'Souza shares his expertise on the different types of obsessions and compulsions, shedding light on the lesser-known aspects of OCD beyond the common stereotypes, as well as exploring the role of genetics and trauma in the development of OCD.

    Dr. D'Souza shares his strategies for helping high-achievers with anxiety and OCD individuals harness their focus and productivity, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness and intentional challenge. We also explore the impact of our modern, comfortable lifestyles on our distress tolerance and the need for intentional stressors to foster growth and fulfillment.

    We touch on the concept of ego-syntonic versus ego-dystonic and how it relates to OCD and other diagnoses. We discuss the role of praise and mindset in shaping a person's ability to embrace challenges and grow. And we touch on the topic of distraction, exploring the neuropsychology behind it and how we can train our attention to overcome it.

    Dr. Johann D’Souza is the founder of Values First Therapy, where he offers modern psychology with traditional values. He specializes in helping high achievers overcome anxiety or OCD by using science-based strategies.

    He earned a PhD and MA in Clinical Psychology from the University of Houston on a Presidential Fellowship after receiving a prior MA from Boston University in Psychology and BA from University of Dallas in Theology. His research publications focus on the psychological benefits of hope and optimism. Dr. D’Souza is a research affiliate at Harvard’s Human Flourishing Program, a coach for OptimalWork, and the host of the Dr. Johann D’Souza Podcast.

    Books mentioned in this episode:
    "The War of Art" by Steven Pressfield 
    The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt 
    The Joy of Movement: How exercise helps us find happiness, hope, connection, and courage, by Kelly McGonigal 
    The Upside of Stress: Why Stress Is Good for You, and How to Get Good at It, by Kelly McGonigal 
    Books mentioned on this podcast can be found at sometherapist.com/bookshop or via the Amazon affiliate links provided. Either way, purchases support the show. Thank you!

    Podcasts mentioned:
    The Dr. Johann D'Souza podcast, ep # 10 - Stephanie Winn, Protecting Children from Trans Activists 
    The Optimal Work Podcast The Dr. Johann D’Souza Podcast

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    Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.
    Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.
    Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.
    Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.
    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
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    • 1 hr 35 min
    93. "I Was a Drug Pusher": Sara Stockton Exposes Therapists’ Roles in the Gender Industry

    93. "I Was a Drug Pusher": Sara Stockton Exposes Therapists’ Roles in the Gender Industry

    Sara Stockton is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, lecturer, researcher, and clinical supervisor of a psychotherapy practice in New York who has done a complete 180 on the subject of youth gender transition. Ms. Stockton spent the first part of her career advocating for “gender affirming care” in the treatment of trans-identified youth. Starting in 2008, her work with this population included traveling to teach and train medical facilities, physicians, and schools on “gender affirmation.” In 2013, she co-authored one of the first mental health assessments in the US utilized to assess youth “readiness” for gender transition. She treated over 100 families, and wrote many of the first letters that were used to approve gender transition surgeries on minors, before a change of perspective shifted the focus of her work. More recently, she was featured in the documentary “What is a Woman,” where she decided to speak out about her moments of doubt and realizations, and her decision to raise awareness about the pitfalls of this approach. She has also been interviewed by Jordan Peterson and on Gender: A Wider Lens.

    In this episode, Sara shares her journey from being a young graduate student specializing in gender issues to her eventual shift in focus towards sex therapy. We discuss the lack of historical context and critical examination of the treatment protocols for transgender-identified youth; the pressure to conform to a specific narrative without questioning the long-term consequences; and ways in which young therapists’ naïveté, openness, and eagerness to prove themselves can all be utilized to further an agenda that might more easily be recognized as sinister by more grounded individuals.

    Sara opens up about the ethical dilemmas she encountered, including the issue of informed consent and the pressure to prescribe irreversible medical interventions to young people. We explore the concept of autogynephilia and its implications for understanding the motivations behind gender identity. We touch on the hyper-sexualization of youth in the context of gender issues; the links between sexual deviance and the “trans” movement; and the challenges of navigating discussions around sexuality and intimacy with young clients.

    Sara shares a pivotal moment in her career when she encountered a detransitioner and realized the lack of support and resources available for those who regret their medical transition. We discuss the vulnerability of individuals during times of personal struggle and the potential for manipulation and exploitation.

    This episode raises important questions about the need for a more nuanced and critical approach to gender issues. Join us as we delve into these complex topics and challenge the prevailing narratives surrounding trans-identified youth. Find Sara on X @MrsSaraStockton or at www.stocktonscoaching.com
    Resources mentioned:-Eleven Lawsuits by Detransitioners in the US (article on Lisa Selin Davis' blog, Broadview)-Episode 82. Jamie Reed Confronts Gender Malpractice: on Courage, Whistleblowing, and Detrans Medical Records

    00:00 Start
    02:08 Early 20s and gender issues.
    05:58 The shift in public perception.
    10:39 The Dutch protocol.
    13:26 Valuing discomfort over natural processes.
    17:11 Squashing our instincts and intuition.
    20:41 Treating gender dysphoria.
    29:06 Sensory exploration and identity.
    29:39 Gender-related ideation.
    37:02 Informed consent and decision-making.
    41:20 Talking to young transgender patients.
    44:23 Oversexualization in LGBTQ+ youth.
    50:39 Detransitioning experiences.
    56:30 Cults and manipulation.
    59:28 Safeguarding and client potential.
    01:06:03 Challenging parental perspectives.
    01:06:48 Gender dysphoria and mental hospitals.
    01:11:00 Pornography addiction and shifting focus.
    01:16:26 Butchery of children.
    01:19:41 Backlash and public criticism.
    01:24:18-01:24:28 Blacklisting and Speaking Out.

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    • 1 hr 27 min

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