11 episodes

Welcome to the Back Pain Podcast with Rob and Dave!

We are researching the facts about back pain and bringing them to you in easy to understand format.

We are two Chiropractors who spend every day looking after people with back pain. It has become our mission to talk to the best in the business to get the facts that you need to hear. We interview everyone from surgeons, GPs, Physios, Chiropractors, consultants and more so that we can get you the answers to your questions, as well as actionable tips you can take away from each episode to start feeling better/regain your health/get back to life...

The Back Pain Podcast Rob Beaven & Dave Elliott

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Welcome to the Back Pain Podcast with Rob and Dave!

We are researching the facts about back pain and bringing them to you in easy to understand format.

We are two Chiropractors who spend every day looking after people with back pain. It has become our mission to talk to the best in the business to get the facts that you need to hear. We interview everyone from surgeons, GPs, Physios, Chiropractors, consultants and more so that we can get you the answers to your questions, as well as actionable tips you can take away from each episode to start feeling better/regain your health/get back to life...

    Crossfit and Back Pain

    Crossfit and Back Pain

    In this episode, Rob Crowley Chiropractor and CrossFit Competitor talks about the value of CrossFit as both a fitness methodology and a competitive sport.

    He shares what it means to an individual who trains in CrossFit in addition to their working week and how professional CrossFit elite athletes work towards their goals and how exposure to movement and load is the key to building resilience, strength and endurance.

    Rob reflects and shares great advice from all angles - as a chiropractor, physiologist, CrossFit competitor and CrossFit coach. Cross fit can be hard to define and this is a great opportunity to understand more about how and why CrossFit continues to grow in popularity year on year.

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    Load, movement and variety of exercise is very important to decrease back pain and keep people healthy.
    CrossFit is designed to be constantly varying functional activity performed at high intensity across times and domains.
    CrossFit has moved from the domain of athletes to being within the reach of the average person and this brings unique challenges for those individuals in terms of mobility and what they can achieve early on.
    The ability to coach complex and varying movements is about scaling for the differing abilities and experience.
    You need to understand the phases and stages of each lift to successfully build the necessary skills.
    There is a difference between CrossFit as a fitness methodology and CrossFit as a competition sport.
    In CrossFit, there is a paradox with movements where your lower back needs to be very stable such as weight lifting but there are also gymnastic movements that require the lower back to be very mobile and they might be in the same workout.
    The same treatments work with athletes and the average person but often the average person doesn’t feel they need the level of care an athlete has.
    Bodies aren’t fragile there isn’t a bad movement it’s having the strength, endurance and skill to perform the movement.

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘I’ve never avoided loading my body and over the years this is what has made me resilient’

    ‘We need to not make people afraid of lifting things it’s what we are designed to do’

    ‘A CrossFit workout will always feel about the same, the amount you feel f#cked afterwards will change as you get fitter and recover quicker’

     

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    The Back Pain Podcast

    Gain Recovery website

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliot

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working

    hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help

    distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast.

    You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or

    you can contact him @ hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.

     

    RobBeaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in

    Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists,

    Osteopaths, Doctors and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain

    patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table

    experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps

    you can implement today to start feeling better.

     

    CONTACTMETHOD

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Building the Golf Athlete - Shane Lawlor Sports Chiropractor

    Building the Golf Athlete - Shane Lawlor Sports Chiropractor

    In this episode Shane Lawlor one of Europe’s leading golf performance therapists discusses the range of issues he sees repeatedly in his specialist area, golf and the solutions that he is able to offer.

    With extensive expertise and experience in the treatment, screening and rehabilitation of golf injuries Shane has travelled the world with professional golfers and has worked with athletes at all levels.

    He shares the methods and approaches that make a difference in physical performance and discusses what it really takes to build an athlete.

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    The pros get back problems because they hit too many balls at speed and the amateurs get problems because they don’t rotate in the right way.
    In the treatment room, a selection of movement screens are used to work out what the problem is.
    We know now even if you have  back pain you need to be moving around. It’s about putting evidence and experience together.
    Back problems for amateur golfers are usually focused around hip mobility.
    Golf is a close chain movement where your feet are planted and then your hips are moving over them.
    The rotation should come from the hips but if this doesn’t happen then the strain is on the back.
    The type of disc and facets in the back can determine whether someone is suitable for a particular sport.
    When you are building a golfer, you are building an athlete. Early specialisation of sports can be a problem because you overload on a particular pattern very early on.
    If you can get the core working effectively then this lessens the strain on the back.
    Extra mobility doesn’t mean you are more stable it’s all about control. You can’t add length without adding strength and you are mobilised by strengthening it’s important to stay strong.
    It’s a very diverse sport and no 2 swings are the same so you should never try and copy someone else’s swing. What makes someone a pro is their ability to get around their own limitations. 

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘If you build your mental game you can make it your reality’

    ‘If you can’t hit a ball 300 yards or more then you are at a significant disadvantage so young players are always chasing speed as this means more distance’

    ‘There is no best coach it’s the coach who best suits the person’

     

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    The Back Pain Podcast

    The Golf Chiro website

    Shane Lawlor LinkedIn

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliot

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working

    hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help

    distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast.

    You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or

    you can contact him @ hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.

     

    RobBeaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in

    Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists,

    Osteopaths, Doctors and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain

    patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table

    experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps

    you can implement today to start feeling better.

     

    CONTACTMETHOD

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com

    • 58 min
    Chronic Pain with Dr. Derek Griffin

    Chronic Pain with Dr. Derek Griffin

    Derek Griffin specialist musculoskeletal physiotherapist with expertise in chronic pain disorders is talking about chronic pain and how pain is understood on both an individual and societal level.

    There are many factors that influence an individual’s experience of pain and Derek explains the importance of listening to the patient and bringing understanding to the narrative.

    Everyone will seek to make sense of their pain and understanding the many factors that interact to not only influence the pain but determine the response can help in the management and treatment of individuals.

    We are subject to many societal beliefs about back pain from early on in our lives but the narrative can be changed if we are prepared to listen.

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    Chronic pain is an umbrella term for a number of conditions so it’s important to recognise each individual and their story.
    Pain is a societal problem and people have beliefs about pain whether they are suffering it or not. Its widely believed that pain equals damage to tissues resulting in pain but there is not a 1 to 1 relationship between pain and damage.
    There are many factors that influence an individual’s experience of pain
    You can have damage and not have pain and also have pain without any obvious injury.
    There is a huge interaction between our beliefs, behaviours, how we cope with pain and how the nervous and immune systems respond which influence pain and its persistency
    If you can link key concepts to the patient’s story you can help them to reflect.
    Even when you can’t change someone’s life there are ways to help them improve their coping mechanisms.
    There has to be a blame-free narrative and there are many things are involved in the experience of pain.
    It’s always about listening to the individual and their story.
    There are lots of reasons around the societal beliefs about back pain and how it persists but it about shifting the beliefs at a population level to make change

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘No activity is too little’

    ‘It’s human nature to try and attribute something to a particular event because it brings control’

    ‘It’s about changing the narrative of pain’

     

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    The Back Pain Podcast

    Derek Griffin Twitter

    Derekgriffinphysio@gmail.com

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliot

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working

    hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help

    distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast.

    You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or

    you can contact him @ hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.

     

    RobBeaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in

    Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists,

    Osteopaths, Doctors and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain

    patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table

    experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps

    you can implement today to start feeling better.

     

    CONTACTMETHOD

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Running & Back Pain; With Expert Running Physio Brad Beer

    Running & Back Pain; With Expert Running Physio Brad Beer

    In this episode, Brad Beer founding physiotherapist of Pogo Physio,  host of ‘The Physical Performance Podcast and best-selling author of ‘You Can Run Pain Free’ discusses what it takes to keep running and the types of injuries that runners often encounter.

    Moving and motion are important and the body adapts growing stronger so keeping in motion is key.

    Brad and Rob discuss the ways to achieve optimum hip stability, understand your body type, training load and running technique in this informative episode.

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    1 out 5 recreational runners will compete with a running injury at any one time.
    Most runners will have back pain at some point during their lifetime.
    The role of the pelvis for runners is integral to performance.
    If a runner can get stronger around the pelvis it will mitigate possible back pain.
    Moving and motion are important and the body adapts growing stronger.
    Back pain is often really poorly managed.
    The most powerful part of the consultation can be the client understanding that;

    -They don’t have a bad back they have a normal back that’s currently sore

    -Pain does not equal damage

    -This pain will pass
    Achieving hip stability is key.
    Body type – having an awareness of how you are put together can help you streamline what you need to do to increase and sustain mobility.
    Running technique – over striding had been linked to heightened to increase joint forces
    60% of injuries are caused by incorrect training loads
    Relative rest – the only training you are benefiting from is the training you are recovering from.

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘The best performers are those who are less rigid and adapt training to their bodies at different times’

    ‘You are getting fitter when you are absorbing the work’

    ‘I’m a student in my job everyday’

     

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    The Back Pain Podcast

    Pogo Physio website

    You Can Run Pain Free by Brad Beer

    The Physical Performance Show podcast 

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliot

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working

    hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help

    distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast.

    You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or

    you can contact him @ hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.

     

    RobBeaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in

    Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists,

    Osteopaths, Doctors and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain

    patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table

    experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps

    you can implement today to start feeling better.

     

    CONTACTMETHOD

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com

    • 40 min
    Back Pain and Cycling - Is it normal? How Can I Prevent it?

    Back Pain and Cycling - Is it normal? How Can I Prevent it?

    Discover today how your back pain when cycling can be eliminated with a simple bike fit. Today we are joined by Ricky Davis, chiropractor and bike fitter who explains the critical importance bike fitting can have on your comfort and performance on the bike whether you're a lifelong cyclist or just starting out. Ricky shares some key exercises for improving your strength in and out the saddle and why getting that fine balance is extremely important.


    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    There’s a 50/50 split for acute trauma injuries on a bike e.g. falling off and fracturing something, and then the chronic overuse and pain.
    Disc overload or disk anti-pressure can often cause the sciatic nerve troubles close to that area and they can refer down and into the legs. Not only is there mechanical pressure in the saddle but also the lower back, making many people fear cycling.
    There are specific stretches and techniques for cycling and mobility. Certain yoga poses such as ‘Pigeon Pose’ whereby you stretch through your hips. As well as strengthening exercises like ‘Dead Bugs’ which are an amazing core exercise whilst in a peddling movement, coupled with one-legged glute exercises.
    The majority of the issues related to lower bike pain in connection with bike fitting is that somebody can be too low in terms of the front end of the bike meaning they’re putting excess stress onto the lower part of the back or they are too high on a road bike you have to have a balance between the two.
    If you are first getting into cycling, getting a bike fitted correctly to you will change your view on cycling. If you go cycling without this, and find it painful it will put you off. Pain is the biggest limiter of success on a bike as you are not able to do what you love to do.
    You can increase performance with a good bike fit. The reason you will be faster and perform is that if your muscles are in the right ranges then all your power from your glutes will be going into the pedal. If everything is working as it should, we can improve on things.

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    “People think that’s just a normal feeling, that is just cycling but it is not, you don’t need to be feeling this stuff.”

    “These are going to be invaluable to strengthen you off of the bike as well.”

    “Discomfort will be the thing that limits you the most.”

     

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    John Thomson The McKenzie Institute website

     

    Links To Exercises (valuable resources)

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjD6fOP5tjpAhWiVBUIHXpaDdwQFjASegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yogajournal.com%2Fpractice%2Fpigeon-pose&usg=AOvVaw1ZkTLlhHMLjt__eqJFXZsB

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjE95uc5tjpAhUOTRUIHQH_DjkQFjAYegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coachmag.co.uk%2Fabs-workouts%2F6384%2Fthe-dead-bug-exercise&usg=AOvVaw1rLBC515ZAVnvhY62ZGzsU

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiv7aio5tjpAhVQZxUIHVCABXsQwqsBMB96BAgLEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Db9bHy3ojQWA&usg=AOvVaw2O3Ki5ZxGpAyeL1Lm3vPC5

     

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliot

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working

    hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help

    distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast.

    You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or

    you can contact him @ hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.

     

    RobBeaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in

    Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists,

    Osteopaths, Doctors and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain

    patients every y

    • 49 min
    Back Pain in Professional Sports - A Chiropractors Opinion

    Back Pain in Professional Sports - A Chiropractors Opinion

    Nick is a Sport Chiropractor who has worked in the premiership for the last 3 years alongside a multidisciplinary team of physios, doctors and coaches. 

    We discuss how common injuries including back pain is in top-level athletes and how its managed in the elite sporting environment. As well as the challenges healthcare professionals face in dealing with the best of the best. 

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    49% of the population has suffered from back pain and individuals often identify sport as the cause.
    This can be because they don’t do anything, then do something intense increasing dramatically the load on the body.
    In football, both intrinsic load and external load are measured to give both indicators of potential injury and peaks in performance.
    As a sports chiropractor, you are looking for the characteristics of having flexibility, strength, stability and control in the right areas of the spine, then it can withstand a good amount of load.
    The type of back pain suffered by most people is mechanical back pain and this affects both athletes and weekend warrior sportspeople.
    When an athlete is coming back from injury they go through specific steps to reduce the risk of relapse.
    Those young people who do a range of different sports as they are growing up spread the load and this helps later on.
    It’s about an athlete having a set of tools that they can use to manage their own bodies and their mental well being
    A rest recovery cycle is important with sleep and the correct diet vital components.
    You need to take a holistic view of your life to ensure you are in the best possible state to take part in physical activities.

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘I’m looking to build a multi-disciplinary team who will be able to meet all the needs of the person’

    ‘Breaking down the components of the sport and testing the athlete over time to build back to 100% is vital’

    ‘It’s about have a training plan and building up the load gradually’

     

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    Nick Metcalfe website

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliot

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working

    hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help

    distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast.

    You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or

    you can contact him @ hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.

     

    RobBeaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in

    Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists,

    Osteopaths, Doctors and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain

    patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table

    experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps

    you can implement today to start feeling better.

     

    CONTACTMETHOD

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com

    • 1 hr

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