127 episodes
The Back Pain Podcast Rob Beaven & Dave Elliott
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- Health & Fitness
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4.9 • 129 Ratings
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Welcome to the Back Pain Podcast with Rob and Dave!
We are researching the facts about back pain and bringing them to you in easy to understand format.
We are two Chiropractors who spend every day looking after people with back pain. It has become our mission to talk to the best in the business to get the facts that you need to hear. We interview everyone from surgeons, GPs, Physios, Chiropractors, consultants and more so that we can get you the answers to your questions, as well as actionable tips you can take away from each episode to start feeling better/regain your health/get back to life...
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Why I Should Do my Exercises? A Good Analogy for Understanding
Dave and Rob are having a behind the treatment room door chat about their working week as chiropractors
They discuss the importance of exercise plans and how increasing functional capacity is an important element of any treatment plan and share a great analogy to help understanding
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Any conservative or passive care doesn’t necessarily decrease pain from issues such as osteoarthritis
People assume massage is aimed at reducing pain but its about increasing functional capacity
If we improve the capacity of someone’s knee health then it means they can do more
Exercise increases the capacity and your threshold so you are increasing functional capacity
You have to look at the bigger picture, if you knee or back is stopping you doing the things you want in life then surgery may be the option to consider
If you are utilising exercise as part of your treatment plan you need to look at usage and function as well as lessening pain levels
Having an expectation of no pain can result in less resilience
BEST MOMENTS
‘You may be able to do more with the same amount of pain’
‘Pain is a very normal aspect of society’
‘We can usually increase your capacity but this may not lessen the level of pain’
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ABOUT THE HOSTS
Dave Elliott
Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.
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Rob Beaven
Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.
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Can the Name of my Diagnosis Do More Harm Than Good?
Dave and Rob are talking about diagnostic labels and particularly those for lower back pain
Lower back pain is a complex and multifactorial condition and a specific diagnosis may not reflect the underlying causes or mechanisms for the pain so does a specific label help or hinder?
This is a learning episode where the discussion is a great opportunity to carefully consider what you do as a clinician with the evolution of diagnostic labelling
KEY TAKEAWAYS
The research is now saying a diagnostic label is not as important as previously thought
There is back pain that needs a specific diagnosis but this is not the case for the majority of non-specific back pain
With non-specific back pain we know it’s nothing sinister or serious and what’s left is a combination of other things
Many things can be contributing to the pain and the treatments and outcomes are similar for non-specific back pain
Understanding the multifactorial and compounding aspect of non-specific back pain means there are a multitude of things you can do to help yourself
The vast majority of patients will be better in 12 weeks
It makes sense for us to stop using these labels and be better at explaining
BEST MOMENTS
‘Our previous notion of a single answer to find is a bit immature’
‘A more holistic approach may lead to better outcomes’
‘This is evolving and changing our diagnostic labelling in line with current research’
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ABOUT THE HOSTS
Dave Elliott
Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.
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Rob Beaven
Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.
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What Drugs Can a GP Give For Pain And How do They Work? - With Dr Sophie Newton GP
In this episode, Rob is with Dr Sophie Newton talking about the medication both prescribed and over the counter that is used to treat back pain
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Example Low Back Pain Case - Collaboration With The Sports Therapy Association (STA)
In this episode, Dave shares a detailed lower back pain case history and takes specific questions from the audience in the journey to a diagnosis
This is a fascinating insight into the approach that begins from the moment the clinician meets the patient through to the treatment journey and the factors that influence recovery
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Whatever your discipline the tenets are the same when you talking about pain
As osteopaths and chiropractors, we are talking the same words just in a different language
A disc doesn’t have to present with radicular symptoms initially
Back or cervical disc issues have to be considered
When the range of motion is restricted isolating the areas and specific groups of muscles, joints and nerves can help with the diagnosis
If the specific pain is on a full extension this is a classic sign of a set joint irritation
If you experience pain over a period of time fear avoidance can become a part of the individual's experience
The biggest test can be the basic test of ‘poking it’
Everything is testing and a provocative test can be seeing the patient coming into the room
A test doesn’t have to have a name and make it onto your notes
BEST MOMENTS
‘The basic tenets of good care should be what you are going by’
‘Identifying which one is the head honcho and ruling the show is what we are looking for’
‘Your provocative test starts when you greet that patient’
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ABOUT THE HOSTS
Dave Elliott
Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.
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Rob Beaven
Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.
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Tennis And Golfers Elbow With Ian Gatt
Ian Gatt is a physiotherapist with extensive experience and expertise and is an upper limb injury specialist.
In this episode Ian shares advice on tennis and golfers' elbow from the symptoms to the causes and what you can do to be able to get on with your life in the way you want to.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
It’s something that affects a tendon and it impacts daily activities
Tennis elbow tends to be on the outside and golfers the inside of the elbow
It can be linked to who you are as a person and the environment you are in
Having a conversation and understanding how the person feels is important and the first step
You can be chasing a diagnosis but understanding the function of the person is vital so you know what they need to do and can do
It’s not posture, it's technique and the repetition of a technique can cause the issue
It’s about planning, taking a step back when you experience the symptoms and doing things in a different way
If you are feeling something, listen to your body and give yourself a breather
BEST MOMENTS
‘It’s important to understand the nature of the symptoms’
‘We just need to understand what the person can and can’t do with the focus on the can’
‘I use the formula of prognosis equals diagnosis plus function’
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ABOUT THE HOSTS
Dave Elliott
Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com if you have any questions for him.
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Rob Beaven
Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.
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What is Polymyalgia Rheumatica with Jack March
Jack March aka the rheumatology physio returns to talking about PMR and the treatment route He explains what the symptoms are and how its diagnosed and discusses the treatment pathway along with measures that can be taken to improve the symptoms
Customer Reviews
The back pain podcast:
My new favourite podcast! Only discovered it a week ago and have listened to 4 episodes and shared with grateful clients several times so far. A must listen to all people affected by back pain and for all clinicians supporting patients with back pain. 👏👏👏
Podcast Gold!
This is a fantastic podcast to listen to and I’m constantly recommending it to others too. So many myths are busted and also new evidence based science/ treatment is explained and discussed. Well done Rob and Dave, it’s great to listen to up to date and like minded clinicians.
Fantastic
A fantastic podcast. A really useful resource for me as a therapist and also to be able share relevant episodes with clients. Up to date and interesting.