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Rupali on the limitations of the current tools we have when it comes to understanding our cities...
“…often what happens is that we get our frameworks of thinking from certain ‘givens’. That is something that we have been arguing, that our ways of understanding cities come from these two disciplines - cartography and statistical ethnography - and what those two disciplines have given us is these two tools - the map and the statistic.…these two tools are limiting in the way they understand life. To give you an example, what a map would require is clear boundaries. So if boundaries are fuzzy, they are corroded, they (maps) would start making no sense. For statistics, you have to simplify things, you have to simplify data. So if things are complex, they will not make sense. The other thing that maps and statistics do is they don’t allow for experiential ways of thinking of space because you need to quantify, you need to simplify. And they also create certain moralities of space - what is standard? What is good? What is best practice? Or also clear separations between what is inside and outside, what is public and private….”
Rupali Gupte is an architect, urbanist and an artist based in Mumbai. She is one of the founder members of the School of Environment and Architecture and currently teaches there. She is a partner at the Bard Studio, Mumbai. She has also been one of the co-founders of the urban research network, CRIT. Rupali has studied architecture (B-Arch, Mumbai University) and urban design (M-Arch, Cornell University). She has earlier worked as: an Assistant Professor at the Kamla Raheja Vidyanidhi Institute for Architecture, Consulting Urban Designer to the Town Administration of Mendefera, Eritrea and Architect at the Kohn Pederson Fox Associates, New York. Her work include research on Indian urbanism with focus on architecture, urban culture, housing, urban form and tactical practices. It crosses disciplinary boundaries and take different forms – writings, drawings, mixed-media works, storytelling, teaching, walks and spatial intervention. This episode was recorded in Nov, 2021
 
Rupali's Studio -
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The school where Rupali is a founder member and teaches currently -
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Rupali on the limitations of the current tools we have when it comes to understanding our cities...
 
“…often what happens is that we get our frameworks of thinking from certain ‘givens’. That is something that we have been arguing, that our ways of understanding cities come from these two disciplines - cartography and statistical ethnography - and what those two disciplines have given us is these two tools - the map and the statistic.…these two tools are limiting in the way they understand life. To give you an example, what a map would require is clear boundaries. So if boundaries are fuzzy, they are corroded, they (maps) would start making no sense. For statistics, you have to simplify things, you have to simplify data. So if things are complex, they will not make sense. The other thing that maps and statistics do is they don’t allow for experiential ways of thinking of space because you need to quantify, you need to simplify. And they also create certain moralities of space - what is standard? What is good? What is best practice? Or also clear separations between what is inside and outside, what is public and private….”
 
Rupali Gupte is an architect, urbanist and an artist based in Mumbai. She is one of the founder members of the School of Environment and Architecture and currently teaches there. She is a partner at the Bard Studio, Mumbai. She has also been one of the co-founders of the urban research network, CRIT. Rupali has studied architecture (B-Arch, Mumbai University) and urban design (M-Arch, Cornell University). She has earlier worked as: an Assistant Professor at the Kamla Raheja Vidyanidhi Institute for Architecture, Consulting Urban Designer to the Town Administration of Mendefera, Eritrea and Architect at the Kohn Pederson Fox Associates, New York. Her work include research on Indian urbanism with focus on architecture, urban culture, housing, urban form and tactical practices. It crosses disciplinary boundaries and take different forms – writings, drawings, mixed-media works, storytelling, teaching, walks and spatial intervention. This episode was recorded in Nov, 2021
 
Rupali's Studio -
https://bardstudio.in/
 
BARD Studio on Instagram -
https://www.instagram.com/bardstudiomumbai/
 
The school where Rupali is a founder member and teaches currently -
https://sea.edu.in/
 
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Isha Bhatt is the Director of Product Management at YouTube Commerce. She studied architecture at the KRVIA in Mumbai and was a part of the first batch of students. After moving to the United States to study industrial she began her foray into the tech world, completely by chance, as a User Interface designer for Rediff in the late 90’s. As she mentions in Part I of the conversation, the world wide web was being designed from scratch and she found herself completely at home as a designer, in an environment surrounded by engineers.
Looking into the rear-view mirror now, she speaks about her journey as a Design Thinker and Leader - especially as a woman in a male-dominated Silicon Valley Tech Industry, as one full of surprises and challenges without much precedence. Isha’s longest stint being Paypal (8 years) she narrates stories of being confronted with cultural differences and socio-economic realities of the different parts of the world while working on the design of a product that is meant to make everyday life easier for people across communities.
In part II Isha also elaborates on her anticipations regarding the future of technological innovations. We discuss with her how she see’s the world of software being received across the world, by communities and what its disruptive capacities might be for various cultural practices. Her wide range of experiences across different product categories like e-commerce (ebay), fintech (Paypal), automobile (Volvo) and currently Youtube gave us a very rich insight into the different aspects of product design.
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Isha Bhatt is the Director of Product Management at YouTube Commerce. She studied architecture at the KRVIA in Mumbai and was a part of the first batch of students. After moving to the United States to study industrial she began her foray into the tech world, completely by chance, as a User Interface designer for Rediff in the late 90’s. As she mentions in Part I of the conversation, the world wide web was being designed from scratch and she found herself completely at home as a designer, in an environment surrounded by engineers.
Looking into the rear-view mirror now, she speaks about her journey as a Design Thinker and Leader - especially as a woman in a male-dominated Silicon Valley Tech Industry, as one full of surprises and challenges without much precedence. Isha’s longest stint being Paypal (8 years) she narrates stories of being confronted with cultural differences and socio-economic realities of the different parts of the world while working on the design of a product that is meant to make everyday life easier for people across communities.
In part II Isha also elaborates on her anticipations regarding the future of technological innovations. We discuss with her how she see’s the world of software being received across the world, by communities and what its disruptive capacities might be for various cultural practices. Her wide range of experiences across different product categories like e-commerce (ebay), fintech (Paypal), automobile (Volvo) and currently Youtube gave us a very rich insight into the different aspects of product design.
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Libny on the difficult choices that architects make when presenting project proposals to the public and what is at stake when dealing with the feedback…
“….In this project, the particular museum feasibility proposal, I used Grasshopper and produced these bridges, towers super fast and did some options and I could tweak stuff and we decided – Oh no! It looks too thick, too blah blah blah.. and then BOOM! Enscape – PrintScreen and that’s it! But the thing is Enscape then looks quite realistic. The bridge that I modelled had glass, frames, rails, really detailed. Maybe it was our fault that we detailed it too realistic so that people think this is THE THING. It’s not like an idea.
But then if we would have gone maybe even further and provided a webpage and VR, people would have bought this project! Because it is awesome! You go into this bridge and get a view of the whole city, you really understand the potentials of this project….”
Libny Pacheco is a Project Architect working at White Arkitekter based out of Uppsala, Sweden. Before arriving in Sweden, he experienced both studying and working as an architect across cultures and continents. In his own words, he describes himself as an experienced project architect, computational designer, strong researcher and problem solver. Libny’s interest in software, as he explains during our conversation, comes from his environment and the ‘Heroes’ within the discipline at the time of his education at the Unversidad de los Andes, Venezuela. From studying in Venezuela to working in London, Beijing and now Uppsala, Sweden he lays out for us, during the course of the conversation, a range of experiences – from the abstract universal notions as well the more real and local preferences across cultural boundaries.
Among other more technical and architectural pursuits, Libny is also an active writer/blogger who keeps himself constantly engaged with rethinking architectural thought. He is an avid (re)reader of philosophical, historical and theoretical works and considers these sources to be an integral part of his toolset for architectural production.
Libny’s arcticle on Medium titled, “Parametricism was born Leftish” – https://libnypacheco.medium.com/parametricism-was-born-leftish-18db51ba08dd
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Libny on the difficult choices that architects make when presenting project proposals to the public and what is at stake when dealing with the feedback…
“….In this project, the particular museum feasibility proposal, I used Grasshopper and produced these bridges, towers super fast and did some options and I could tweak stuff and we decided – Oh no! It looks too thick, too blah blah blah.. and then BOOM! Enscape – PrintScreen and that’s it! But the thing is Enscape then looks quite realistic. The bridge that I modelled had glass, frames, rails, really detailed. Maybe it was our fault that we detailed it too realistic so that people think this is THE THING. It’s not like an idea.
But then if we would have gone maybe even further and provided a webpage and VR, people would have bought this project! Because it is awesome! You go into this bridge and get a view of the whole city, you really understand the potentials of this project….”
Libny Pacheco is a Project Architect working at White Arkitekter based out of Uppsala, Sweden. Before arriving in Sweden, he experienced both studying and working as an architect across cultures and continents. In his own words, he describes himself as an experienced project architect, computational designer, strong researcher and problem solver. Libny’s interest in software, as he explains during our conversation, comes from his environment and the ‘Heroes’ within the discipline at the time of his education at the Unversidad de los Andes, Venezuela. From studying in Venezuela to working in London, Beijing and now Uppsala, Sweden he lays out for us, during the course of the conversation, a range of experiences – from the abstract universal notions as well the more real and local preferences across cultural boundaries.
Among other more technical and architectural pursuits, Libny is also an active writer/blogger who keeps himself constantly engaged with rethinking architectural thought. He is an avid (re)reader of philosophical, historical and theoretical works and considers these sources to be an integral part of his toolset for architectural production.
Libny’s arcticle on Medium titled, “Parametricism was born Leftish” – https://libnypacheco.medium.com/parametricism-was-born-leftish-18db51ba08dd
Libny Pacheco on Linkedin -
https://www.linkedin.com/in/libny-pacheco-6548b95/?originalSubdomain=se
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