Sales Today

Fred Copestake
Sales Today Podcast

‘What a time to be in sales’ People say this various times in many different ways – excited, exasperated, worried, pessimistic, optimistic, happy, sad, confused – the whole range of human emotions. This is an exciting time to be in sales, if you are selling B2B complex solutions. It’s a time when you can bring huge value to your customers; it’s a time to thrive. But you need to know how, as it is a time unlike any before. The rules have changed and as a sales professional you can have a hand in redefining how the game is played. Challenges salespeople face are: · ‘Busy Busy Busy’ – being ineffective; it results in wasted opportunities, is tiring and stressful and means the focus is on the wrong activities to deliver results · ‘Olde Worlde’ – being old-fashioned; when salespeople are self-centred rather than customer-focused, too technical in their approach or use bad techniques better suited to a bygone era of selling · ‘Muddled Mindset’ – being misaligned; it can happen at organisation, management and individual level and the confusion leads to frustration and wasted effort. By using a more collaborative approach salespeople can make a difference and sales can become a force for good and fight against the negative image it can often be associated with. The Sales Today podcast explores how sales professionals can adapt and futureproof themselves by using the best practice shared by host Fred Copestake and the guests of the show. What a time to be in sales! Host Fred Copestake is Founder of Brindis, a sales training consultancy, and bestselling author of 'Selling Through Partnering Skills' and 'Hybrid Selling'. Connect with Fred on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. www.linktr.ee/fredcopestake

  1. 21 HR AGO

    Engineering sales: Get hired and win more business

    What happens when sales meets engineering in the packaging and warehouse automation industry?   George Brown, an executive recruiter specialising in this niche sector, joins me to reveal the unique qualities that make sales professionals successful in such a technically demanding field.   We explore why an engineering background is essential, equipping sales experts with the technical know-how to address complex client pain points and build credibility.   Ever wondered how engineers transition to sales roles within large-scale projects?   We discuss the common career progression from engineering to customer-facing positions, the challenges engineers face in this shift, and the importance of acquiring sales skills.   George shares how bridging the communication gap between sales teams and engineers can lead to more effective collaborations and ultimately, successful sales.   Building a winning sales team is no small feat. Using football analogies, we dissect the roles and responsibilities within a business unit, highlighting the significance of teamwork in achieving project goals.   George also shares invaluable tips on identifying key characteristics for sales success, such as technical expertise, a robust professional network, and confidence.   Tune in for practical advice and personal experiences that will enhance your approach to sales and help you secure your next big opportunity.     -------- EPISODE CHAPTERS ---------   (0:00:00) - The Relationship Between Sales and Engineering Successful salespeople in packaging and warehouse automation need engineering background to understand and solve client pain points.   (0:08:18) - Transitioning From Engineering to Sales Engineers often transition to sales roles without formal training, creating a gap in pitching solutions effectively.   (0:13:15) - Sales and Engineering Communication Gap Sales teams and engineers face challenges in large-scale projects due to gaps between sales expertise and technical knowledge, emphasising the importance of teamwork and collaboration.   (0:18:49) - Building Successful Sales Teams Teamwork and understanding roles are crucial for project success, with engineers as defenders and salespeople as strikers.   (0:27:00) - Identifying Key Characteristics for Sales Success Game plan, technical expertise, networking, and confidence are crucial for success in engineering sales.   Connect with George LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-brown678/ Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/3aceUkoxWf0

    34 min
  2. 12 SEPT

    Engineering sales: Square pegs in round holes?

    The belief that relationships drive sales in the engineering industry is outdated.   Tune in to hear Mark Rathore discuss a modern approach to engineering sales, where laser-focused problem-solving and leveraging past successes for credibility take centre stage.   We share insights on how advancements in transportation, automotive, and renewable energy are not only transforming industries but also improving human lives.   Plus, we’ll touch upon the concept of "flattening the curve" in engineering sales and how engineers can capitalise on their problem-solving skills to excel in marketing their innovations.   Understanding revenue distribution and client management is crucial for engineering and manufacturing businesses.   This episode illuminates how visualising revenue spread through graphs can uncover that a large portion of revenue often comes from a small set of clients.   We address the balancing act of maintaining loyalty to long-term clients while attracting higher-value prospects.   We also examine the common pitfalls businesses face after initial growth and offer strategies to sustain momentum and mitigate risks, ensuring the longevity of their success.     Finally, we discuss the importance of emotional drivers in motivating small businesses to grow beyond their comfort zones and share personal anecdotes on how fear of losing their current lifestyle can spur engineers into action.   -------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH KEY POINTS ---------   (0:00:00) - Modern Engineering Sales Approach Engineering sales are driven by problem-solving, credibility, and urgency, with a focus on advancements in transportation, automotive, and renewable energy.   (0:05:55) - Scale Strategies for Growing Businesses Visualising revenue spread and client spend, balancing loyalty and growth, and reaching initial milestones in engineering and manufacturing businesses.   (0:15:03) - Scaling Success Through Pipeline Management Comfortable lifestyle can hinder growth in small businesses, but fear of losing it can drive change.   (0:24:50) - Revolutionising Engineering Sales Techniques Engineers with technical expertise and successful project histories face unique challenges when thrust into sales roles, but can leverage their problem-solving abilities to excel.   Connect with Mark LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrathore/ Watch Mark’s Bell Curve Video:  https://www.paage.io/c3vulll   Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/Mu2DzZWkCHE

    37 min
  3. 5 SEPT

    Engineering sales: How 'engineering superego' limits sales growth

    Have you ever wondered why engineers, despite their technical brilliance, often find sales so challenging?   Join me and special guest, Mark Rathore, a chemical engineer who transitioned into a sales expert as he takes us through his intriguing journey from technical roles to mastering business interactions.    You'll gain insights into the distinct neural pathways that separate engineers from salespeople and understand why engineers, despite their deep technical knowledge, often find sales challenging..   We also explore the uncomfortable but essential process of sales training and personal development.   Mark introduces the concept of "absorption latency," illustrating how new skills need time to take root, especially for methodical thinkers like engineers and architects.   Through analogies like switching the hand you wear your watch on, Mark addresses the need for persistence through discomfort to achieve meaningful growth.   We also celebrate the increasing presence of women in sales roles, adding a rich layer of diversity and strength to the industry.   Finally, we look into the psychological hurdles and limiting beliefs that engineers often face when transitioning to sales.   Mark shares his experiences and strategies on overcoming these barriers, highlighting the importance of practice and repetition.   This episode is packed with valuable insights for anyone looking to bridge the gap between technical expertise and sales success.   --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH KEY POINTS ---------   (0:00:00) - Engineering Sales Brain Circuitry Theory Engineers struggle with sales due to differences in brain circuitry, explored through anecdotes and theories by a chemical engineer.   (0:13:49) - Navigating Sales Training and Absorption Latency Embracing the unknown in sales training and personal development, absorption latency, diversity of women in the industry.   (0:17:06) - Overcoming Engineering Mindset in Sales Highly competent professionals face challenges transitioning to sales, including ego barriers and limiting beliefs, requiring practice and coaching for growth.   (0:23:03) - Navigating Mental Absorption in Sales Effective training, absorption latency, counterintuitive approach, self-awareness in thinking processes, sales and business development roles.   (0:27:04) - Engineering Mindset in Sales Resistance Technical professionals struggle in sales roles due to lack of expertise, leading to internal conflict and misinterpretations of conversion rates.   (0:32:35) - Understanding Conversion Rates in Sales Nature's conversion rates are often overestimated, highlighting the importance of accurate data and thorough sales planning and strategy.   Connect with Mark LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrathore/   Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/mDo-8xhnTvI

    42 min
  4. 29 AUG

    Are leaders born or trained?

    What happens when high-performing salespeople are thrust into leadership roles without formal training?   Join me on this episode where I am joined by Richard Cogswell, the author of "The Cultural Sales Leader," as we uncover the reality behind this common industry practice.   Richard shares the crucial elements of successful sales leadership, including the importance of structured training and the pitfalls of jumping into leadership unprepared.   We explore strategies for creating cohesive sales plans that align with both financial goals and customer needs.   Plus, Richard introduces the concept of servant leadership, showing how empathy and strategic thinking can drive exceptional team performance.   We also address the critical process of diagnosing issues quickly and empowering team members to excel.   Richard provides compelling real-life examples, such as a dramatic turnaround in Singapore, to illustrate these principles.   Don’t miss our discussion on the essential components of first-time leadership training that can set up new managers for success.   Make sure to connect with Richard on LinkedIn for more of his expert insights, and subscribe to the Sales Today podcast to stay ahead in your sales career.     --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH KEY POINTS ---------   (0:00:00) - Leadership Learning in Sales Leadership is a learned skill, often overlooked in sales, highlighted by author Richard Cogswell's book on structured training for first-time managers.   (0:13:51) - Effective Leadership in Sales Team Transitioning into leadership roles without training, lack of go-to-market plans, servant leadership, and supporting newly promoted leaders.   (0:23:43) - Developing First-Time Sales Leaders Servant leadership, flexibility, empathy, diagnosing issues, aligning values, positive work environment, management training for first-time leaders.   Follow Richard LinkedIn:   Website: Get Richard’s Book:   Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard   Watch this episode on YouTube

    36 min
  5. 22 AUG

    Personal branding - reputation enhancement from SDR to CEO

    What if your personal brand could speak volumes even when you're not around?   Join me as I welcome Neil Bhuiyan, the visionary founder of Happy Selling, to reveal the secrets of building an impactful personal brand in the digital age.   Neil shares his expert insights on the pivotal role of Sales Development Representatives (SDRs), breaking down their responsibilities in both inbound and outbound capacities and highlighting their critical importance in driving a successful sales pipeline.   We also tackle the tricky terrain of maintaining authenticity while crafting content on platforms like LinkedIn.   From the mental health impacts of seeking social media validation to the power of sharing genuine personal stories, we explore how salespeople can humanise their brand without losing sight of customer needs.   Neil's "happy selling" philosophy offers a refreshing take on making sales fun and engaging, providing practical strategies and varied content ideas to keep your social media posts fresh and captivating.   Tune in to elevate your personal brand and sales approach.   --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH KEY POINTS --------- (0:00:00) - Personal Branding for Salespeople (0:10:38) - Balancing Personal Branding With Authenticity (0:21:29) - Strategies for Engaging Sales Content   Follow Neil LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilbhuiyan/ Website: https://www.happyselling.io/     Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/STruzxUfOac

    34 min
  6. 15 AUG

    Selling with AI - interview with 12 robots!

    How can AI revolutionise your sales strategy and give you a competitive edge?   Join me as I interview The Brindis Bots, a team of AI assistants engineered to transform the collaborative selling process.   Yes... I am talking to AIs!   Discover the Ideal Client Profiler, who excels at pinpointing and analysing client pain points and desired outcomes.   Then, hear from the Value Prop Builder, who offers invaluable insights on crafting compelling value propositions that set your business apart.   Message Master brings it all together by creating engaging social media posts and professional emails, tailored to various audiences and platforms.   I also highlight the importance of aligning with key stakeholders through the expertise of Account Planner, and learn how Value Tester can refine the proposition.   But that's not all, the episode continues with the Presentation Creator, Storyteller, and Review Builder, who are dedicated to enhancing your sales approach through impactful communication.   Presentation Creator shares pro tips for designing effective presentations that hook your audience and keep them engaged.   Storyteller teaches us how to weave ideas into captivating narratives using proven storytelling frameworks.   Finally, Review Builder ensures your reviews are balanced, insightful, and value-driven, providing clear recommendations for your clients.   Tune in to learn how these AI assistants can revolutionise your sales process, adding real value and fostering meaningful customer interactions.   This is a different episode to normal when our guests are human. Lets us know what you think.   Access the Brindis Bots here (no sign up required) https://www.collaborativeselling.co.uk/brindis-bots     Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/jyy_xG4L3yA

    21 min
  7. 8 AUG

    Selling out of a slump

    What if you could turn a sales slump into an opportunity for growth?   Join me as I welcome Helen Tebay, the ‘Sales Lady’ herself, to share the secrets behind overcoming sales slowdowns.   Tune in as we dive straight into the heart of why sales may stall, highlighting the need to review past activities and understand how recent actions impact current outcomes.   By focusing on the separation of business challenges from personal worth, we explore how adopting problem-solving questions can transform panic into productivity.   Sales can often feel like an emotional rollercoaster, but it doesn't have to be that way.   Helen shares how to navigate these highs and lows by allowing yourself to experience emotions without self-judgment.   We discuss the concrete steps to regain control, such as leveraging LinkedIn, attending networking events, and revisiting what worked during peak business periods.   This episode is packed with practical advice on reconnecting with your network and understanding their current struggles to drive sustained business growth.   Mindset and intentional actions play a critical role in achieving sales success. Helen talks about the importance of having a long-term vision that withstands short-term setbacks and caring deeply about client results.   We also address common pitfalls like inaction and the false sense of accomplishment from merely deciding to act.   By maintaining resilience, seeking feedback, and focusing on value creation, you can better serve your clients and enhance your sales strategies.   Tune in for practical advice and hard-earned tips to enhance your sales strategies and maintain a positive outlook.   --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH KEY POINTS ---------   ((0:00:00) - Navigating Sales Slumps With Action Sales slump and anxiety in micro service-based businesses, recognising causes and shifting mindset to overcome challenges.   (0:06:49) - Overcoming Sales Slumps Through Action Business owners can overcome slumps by allowing emotions, problem-solving, and revisiting successful practices.   (0:13:18) - Engaging Customers in Sales Slumps Nature's importance in staying aligned with customer needs, reconnecting with potential customers, and overcoming sales slumps.   (0:23:33) - Taking Action in Sales Slumps Mindset is crucial for business success, with a focus on intentional actions, long-term vision, client results, and resilience.   (0:30:59) - Lessons Learned in Sales Growth Tips for sales success, drawn from personal experiences and client work    Follow Helen LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-tebay-586947127/ Website: www.saleslady.co.uk Free Sales Evaluation Toolkit: https://mailchi.mp/d19fdb50a858/free-sales-evaluation-tool   Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/4mp8v3gPPaE

    32 min
  8. 1 AUG

    Negotiation: practice and managing micro-moments

    What if practicing negotiation skills could lead to significant financial gains and professional growth?   Join me as I explore this and more with Philip Brown, founder of the Negotiation Club, who brings his unique perspective from the world of sports and coaching.   Philip breaks down the essential elements of effective negotiation practice, emphasising the crucial roles of the negotiator, the practice partner, and the observer.   We discuss the often-overlooked gap between theoretical knowledge and actual application, shedding light on how consistent, deliberate practice can bridge this divide.   Imagine a sports team that never practices on the field—how would they perform during a game? This analogy perfectly captures the importance of moving beyond preparation to active participation in negotiations.   We also discuss the intricacies of negotiation, focusing on the dynamic interplay of communication, questioning, listening, and making proposals.   Resistance to basic practice is a common barrier but we highlight how fostering a practice-oriented culture can be transformative.   From entering negotiation competitions to using unconventional discount percentages, we share practical methods to improve negotiation skills and achieve substantial financial benefits.   Whether you're an experienced negotiator or a newcomer, this episode offers invaluable insights into mastering negotiation through continuous, focused practice.   Tune in to discover how small adjustments and a commitment to practice can lead to long-term success in any professional setting.   --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH SHORT KEY POINTS ---------   (0:00:00) - The Importance of Practicing Negotiation Skills Practice is crucial in mastering negotiation skills, with three key players: negotiator, partner, and observer.   (0:13:34) - Mastering Negotiation Through Practice Practice and active engagement are crucial in successful negotiation, as preparation alone is not enough.   (0:19:49) - The Power of Negotiation Practice Consistent practice is crucial for mastering skills, from education to training, and fostering a practice-oriented culture for long-term success.   (0:27:30) - Improving Negotiation Skills Through Practice Improving negotiation skills through practice, unconventional discounts, and mastering fundamental techniques can lead to financial benefits.     Follow Philip LinkedIn:  linkedin.com/in/the-negotiation-club Website: https://www.thenegotiationclubs.com/   Follow me https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/   Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/P1AkTGeGKfI

    37 min

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‘What a time to be in sales’ People say this various times in many different ways – excited, exasperated, worried, pessimistic, optimistic, happy, sad, confused – the whole range of human emotions. This is an exciting time to be in sales, if you are selling B2B complex solutions. It’s a time when you can bring huge value to your customers; it’s a time to thrive. But you need to know how, as it is a time unlike any before. The rules have changed and as a sales professional you can have a hand in redefining how the game is played. Challenges salespeople face are: · ‘Busy Busy Busy’ – being ineffective; it results in wasted opportunities, is tiring and stressful and means the focus is on the wrong activities to deliver results · ‘Olde Worlde’ – being old-fashioned; when salespeople are self-centred rather than customer-focused, too technical in their approach or use bad techniques better suited to a bygone era of selling · ‘Muddled Mindset’ – being misaligned; it can happen at organisation, management and individual level and the confusion leads to frustration and wasted effort. By using a more collaborative approach salespeople can make a difference and sales can become a force for good and fight against the negative image it can often be associated with. The Sales Today podcast explores how sales professionals can adapt and futureproof themselves by using the best practice shared by host Fred Copestake and the guests of the show. What a time to be in sales! Host Fred Copestake is Founder of Brindis, a sales training consultancy, and bestselling author of 'Selling Through Partnering Skills' and 'Hybrid Selling'. Connect with Fred on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. www.linktr.ee/fredcopestake

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