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The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast with Joe Fier is all about how to build a business so it gives you the freedom and fuel for your life. We discuss systems, mindset tweaks, reframes, and strategies for entrepreneurs (and really anyone) to enjoy the process of being in business and having fun. This isn't for the entrepreneur looking to build a billion dollar business, rather someone who is looking to build systems that work for you, so you can make more money than you need just by working part-time. I was a chronic hustle-mode kinda guy and I want to share my experiences and mentors I've met along the way to help you reframe things so you can be the most effective as an entrepreneur. Join in conversations with Joe Fier and various mentors sharing principles and strategies to put this into action for yourself. Please enjoy and share with your friends! Listen Notes

  1. The Next Wave - 5 New AI Models That Are Smarter (and Cheaper) Than GPT-5

    6D AGO

    The Next Wave - 5 New AI Models That Are Smarter (and Cheaper) Than GPT-5

    Welcome to a special crossover edition of Hustle and Flowchart! In this episode, we're bringing you another conversation from The Next Wave podcast. Matt Wolfe is in the host's seat and our very own Joe Fier joins as a featured guest. This episode dives deep into the rapidly-evolving world of AI, highlighting the explosion of smarter (and cheaper) new models that are shaking up the industry. Matt and Joe break down the latest stories—from OpenClaw’s headline-making move to OpenAI, to why Anthropic may have dropped the ball, and how Meta and other big tech players are responding. They discuss the wave of AI tools changing how businesses run, how agents are finally becoming useful (and affordable), and what this means for everyday users, developers, and entrepreneurs. Topics DiscussedOpenClaw’s Impact & OpenAI’s AcquisitionAI Agents Are Getting Useful (Not Just Gimmicks!)Cost vs Productivity: Are AI Tokens Cheaper Than Human Employees?Model Race: New Releases from Anthropic, Google, Meta, and xAIBusiness Applications: E-Commerce & Marketing DisruptionAI Creativity Debate: Can Machines Be Creative?Societal Impact & The Future of AI Resources MentionedSeedance 2.0: https://www.seedance.com/OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai/Manus: https://manus.im/Nano Banana: https://nanobanana.com/ElevenLabs: https://elevenlabs.io/Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/ If you found value in today’s episode, make sure to subscribe to Hustle & Flowchart on your favorite podcast platform. Your subscription ensures you never miss an episode and helps us bring you more in-depth conversations on everything shaping the hustle and creator landscape. Don’t forget to leave us a review and share the episode with someone curious about the future of AI!

    1h 42m
  2. The Next Wave - Seedance 2.0 Is Here… and It’s Better Than Sora & Veo

    FEB 19

    The Next Wave - Seedance 2.0 Is Here… and It’s Better Than Sora & Veo

    This episode is a special crossover from The Next Wave podcast, hosted by Matt Wolfe and featuring a deep-dive conversation with marketing and business expert Joe Fier. The duo breaks down the five most interesting developments in AI from the past week, with a focus on SeedDance 2.0—an advanced video model from ByteDance that’s dominating headlines for its realistic visuals and flawless lip syncing. They discuss how SeedDance is changing the game compared to heavyweights like Veo and Sora, and why its approach to copyright and training data might give it a global edge. Along the way, Matt Wolfe and Joe Fier demo tools live, including GPT-5.3 Codex Spark and Google’s Gemini DeepThink, showing how these models can create websites, apps, and even solve scientific problems at lightning speed. The episode also explores the ethical and business ramifications of AI’s rapid evolution—from ads in ChatGPT to the potential impact on jobs and creativity—making it a must-listen for anyone eager to stay ahead in the AI landscape. Topics DiscussedSeedance 2.0’s Arrival & ImpactDemos & Real-World ExamplesThe Future of AI Video in Marketing & AdvertisingAI and IP/Copyright ChallengesUltra-Fast Coding ModelsHuman Creativity vs. AIAI Advertising & MonetizationRapid AI Advancement & Staying Ahead Resources Mentioned The Next Wave Podcast: https://www.thenextwave.showMatt Wolfe: https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow Seedance 2.0: https://www.seedance.com/ByteDance: https://www.bytedance.com/CapCut: https://www.capcut.com/Veo: https://deepmind.google/models/veo/Runway: https://runwayml.com/ChatGPT Codex: https://chatgpt.com/codexMatt Schumer’s Viral Article: https://www.mattshumer.com/blog/ai-changes-everythingSuper Bowl Claude Commercial: a href="https://www.anthropic.com/news/super-bowl-ad" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    1h 21m
  3. The Next Wave - Why Your Next Phone Call Might Be With an AI Clone

    FEB 18

    The Next Wave - Why Your Next Phone Call Might Be With an AI Clone

    We're interrupting your regularly scheduled Hustle & Flowchart episode to showcase a recent episode of The Next Wave Podcast. Joe Fier joined Matt Wolfe and co-host Maria Gharib to dive deep into the new world of Delphi AI — the "digital minds" platform that's revolutionizing how creators and entrepreneurs interact with their audiences. The conversation starts with Joe Fier breaking down what Delphi is, how it works, and why it's a game-changer for anyone who’s tired of answering repetitive questions or wants to scale their expertise online. The episode gets hands-on, showcasing a live demo with Delphi-powered digital clones — including an AI "Arnold Schwarzenegger" and a digital version of Matt Wolfe himself. Joe explains how these AI clones are trained on content sources like YouTube, podcasts, and websites, allowing them to recreate your speaking style and answer questions 24/7. Listeners hear the practical use cases for Delphi, from monetizing access (like Tony Robbins’ $99/month AI bot), to lead generation, and as a time-saving tool for creators, coaches, or business owners. The conversation is loaded with real-world examples, humor, and candid insights into the future of AI-powered personal branding. If you’re curious about leveraging AI in your business or want to see how digital clones can save you time (and even make money), this episode is a must-listen. Topics DiscussedWhat Is Delphi and Digital Minds?Real-Life Examples and Live DemoTraining Your AI CloneHandling Repeat Questions & Time ManagementCustomization, Guardrails, and Speaking StyleManaging Uncharted QuestionsMonetizing Your Digital CloneCRM & IntegrationsActions & AutomationsEthics, Verification, and Brand SafetyLaunching Your Own Clone for FreeBehind the Scenes Friendship Resources MentionedDelphi: http://hustleandflowchart.com/delphiThe Next Wave Podcast: https://www.thenextwave.showMatt Wolfe: https://www.youtube.com/@mreflowMaria Gharib: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-gharib-091779b9/ Connect with Joe🤖 Chat with Joe's AI Clone: https://hustleandflowchart.com/aijoe📰 Newsletter: https://hustleandflowchart.com/subscribe🎙️ Podcast: https://hustleandflowchart.com/🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joefier/span...

    41 min

  4. FEB 10

    What If Musicians Treated Their Career Like a Startup? - Mark Roberge

    Grab your copy of The Indie Artist's Compass: book.makeourmusic.com In this episode, host Joe Fier sits down with seasoned musician, producer, and entrepreneur Mark Roberge. Together, they explore the intersection of creativity and business in the modern music industry, sharing actionable insights for artists, creators, and entrepreneurs alike. Mark delves into his journey from breaking ground with bands like Prospect Hill to pioneering fan engagement strategies, leveraging technology, and building collaborative communities. The conversation highlights the importance of authentic storytelling, data-driven marketing, and adapting to industry shifts—especially with the rise of AI and changing consumption habits. Topics Discussed The power of authentic storytelling in music and why AI can't replicate human experienceMark’s evolution: from high school band success to launching Red 13 Studios and beyondTreating music projects like startup businesses — using systems, strategy, and dataBuilding and nurturing fan bases: why you must own your audience, not rely solely on platformsThe "1,000 True Fans" concept and multi-channel fan capture strategiesFrameworks from Mark’s book, "The Indie Artist’s Compass," including the FAME frameworkLeveraging ad automation and tech tools (FanFlowy, Make Our Music) for audience growthRelease strategy: why singles beat albums for growing audiences and maximizing Spotify algorithmsCollaboration and “piggybacking” with other artists to expand reachThe resurgence of live music, human connection, and why it matters more than everAI in music: Opportunities, tools (like Suno), and the real value of human creativityCommunity building and platforms for collaboration, performance, and support Resources Mentioned The Indie Artist’s Compass: book.makeourmusic.comMake Our Music Community: makeourmusic.comProspect Hill Band: prospecthillband.comLansdowne Band: lansdownemusic.com Connect with Us 🤖 Chat with Joe's AI Clone: https://hustleandflowchart.com/aijoespan class="ql-ui"...

    43 min

  5. FEB 3

    99% of Small Businesses Will Die Without AI in Four Years! - Brad Hart

    In this episode of Hustle & Flowchart, host Joe Fier sits down with entrepreneur and systems expert Brad Hart. Together, they explore how AI and robotics are transforming business and why now is the most exciting (and urgent) time for entrepreneurs to leverage these tools. Brad Hart shares his journey—what he’d do if starting over, how to build systems for true leverage, and why small businesses must lead the coming wave of technological change. From real-life success stories to actionable frameworks, this conversation is packed with forward-thinking strategies for building scalable, future-ready businesses. Topics DiscussedA New Era of Abundance: Brad Hart discusses the potential for AI and robotics to solve age-old challenges and what a “utopia” could mean for business and society.Why Small Businesses Matter: The gap between big tech’s focus and the real needs of small and medium businesses—and why SMBs can’t be left behind.Building Leverage with AI: Steps to identifying processes you can automate, from onboarding to operations, and freeing up human potential.Framework for Scaling: Brad Hart unveils his 4 Ps for system-building: Plan, Prompt, Produce, Polish (and a fifth: Platformatize).Tribe Coding vs. Vibe Coding: The power of collective learning, why masterminds matter, and how “tribe coding” accelerates innovation.Real-World Case Studies: How automating a medical onboarding process cut work from 120 hours to less than one—and what that means for scale.Mindset Shift for the Future: Why every industry is about to be disrupted, how to lead change (not follow it), and the new rules for staying in business past 2030.Introducing Optimus & the Mastermind: Brad Hart’s platform to connect, automate, and scale business operations without coding.The Human Element: Why it’s not about replacing humans, but empowering them to be more creative, impactful, and fulfilled. Resources MentionedSee what Brad is building over at Optimus: https://buildwithoptimus.com/Get some FREE Training from Brad: https://buildwithoptimus.com/trainings/ Connect with Joe Fier🤖 Chat with Joe's AI Clone: https://hustleandflowchart.com/aijoe📰 Newsletter: https://hustleandflowchart.com/subscribe🎙️ Podcast: https://hustleandflowchart.com/🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joefier/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joefier/ Ready to future-proof your business? If you learned something new, share the episode with a fellow entrepreneur! And don’t miss upcoming game-changing...

    40 min

  6. JAN 28

    Are You Treating Podcast Guesting Like a Hobby Instead of Marketing? - Tom Schwab

    Get connected with Tom Schwab at: https://interviewvalet.com/flowcharts Podcast guesting gives you a real shot at making new connections, sharing your expertise, and growing your business. When I sat down with Tom Schwab for this episode of Hustle and Flowchart, we got clear about what makes podcast guesting valuable, if you’re doing it right—and what you should avoid. If you’re curious about how podcast interviews have changed over the years, where AI fits in, and how to get more from every conversation, this summary will help. You won’t see a list of fancy marketing tricks or big promises. Instead, you’ll hear about how being purposeful, showing up as yourself, and focusing on real conversations helps your business and brand grow. Tom Schwab has booked over 75,000 podcast interviews, done a thousand himself, and helped tons of companies build trust, not just make noise. This episode shares his lessons learned, common mistakes, and tools to make things more efficient. Topics Discussed Podcasting’s Transformation: How podcasts have evolved post-COVID and the impact of AI on how content is discovered and indexed.Podcast Guesting vs. Interview Marketing: Why simply being a guest is not enough—and how strategic, targeted conversations can drive real results for your business.Building Trust in the Age of AI: Navigating authenticity, transparency, and human connection as technology transforms communication.Evergreen Impact of Podcast Interviews: How legacy podcast content continues to generate leads, nurture relationships, and expand opportunities—even years after recording.The Power of Targeted Outreach: Effective ways to choose podcast platforms, optimize conversations, and avoid the trap of "numbers game" marketing.Leveraging AI and Conversation Clones: Exploring new tools like Delphi to create scalable, personalized touchpoints—and how to maintain trust through transparency.Actionable Strategies for Aspiring Guests: Practical do’s and don’ts for getting booked, maximizing your value, and crafting irresistible calls to action.Marketing Courage & Boldness: How owning your beliefs and being crystal clear about your message sets you apart in a noisy world. Resources Mentioned Interview Valet: https://interviewvalet.comX: https://x.com/interviewvaletFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/InterviewValet/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/interview-valet/YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@interviewvaletInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/interview_valet/ Connect with Joe Fier 🤖 Chat with Joe's AI Clone: https://hustleandflowchart.com/aijoe📰 Newsletter:...

    38 min

  7. JAN 20

    AI Cloning Will Replace Knowledge Bottlenecks In Every Business! - Scott Duffy

    Scott Duffy is back for round two on the podcast! Together, they pull back the curtain on the world of AI cloning for entrepreneurs, creators, and founders. You’ll discover how digital twins are transforming business operations by helping leaders scale their time, impact, and sales—freeing them from repetitive tasks while deepening engagement. The hosts break down real-world use cases, compare leading platforms, and share their proven strategies for launching a successful AI clone in just seven days. If you’re curious about automating business bottlenecks without sacrificing the "human" touch, this episode is for you! Topics DiscussedWhat is AI Cloning? Definitions and practical explanations of AI clones, digital twins, and how they're used for scaling knowledge and time.Clone Shop AI Process: How Joe Fier and Scott Duffy help clients audit their business, identify bottlenecks, and launch digital clones quickly and securely.Comparing Cloning Platforms: In-depth review of ChatGPT, HeyGen, and Delphi. Discussion on the strengths, weaknesses, and security concerns related to each.Scripted vs. Unscripted Clones: The difference between clones built on pre-written scripts (Heygen) and those leveraging larger knowledge bases (Delphi).Securing Your Intellectual Property: How platforms like Delphi protect personal data, and the risks of using more “open” foundational models.Cloning Use Cases: Real-world examples: HR support, sales, coaching, customer service, pastors, religious organizations, and content creation.Launching in Seven Days: Step-by-step overview of Clone Shop AI’s audit, strategy, and quick-launch process for getting clients live quickly.Automations & Actions: Built-in features on Delphi for follow-ups, recap emails, memory nudges, and integrations with other systems.Self-Improvement & Content Creation: Creative ways people use their clones—from prepping for talks to writing books and blog posts using their own IP.Language & Modality Flexibility: How Delphi clones engage users across 50+ languages via text, voice, and even phone calls, ensuring high accessibility. Resources MentionedClone Shop AI: https://thecloneshop.aiDelphi: https://hustleandflowchart.com/delphi Connect with Scott DuffyLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottduffymedia/Website: https://scottduffy.com Connect with Joe Fier 🤖 Chat with Joe's AI Clone: https://hustleandflowchart.com/aijoe 📰 Newsletter: https://hustleandflowchart.com/subscribe 🎙️ Podcast: https://hustleandflowchart.com/ 🔗 LinkedIn:...

    1h 24m

  8. JAN 14

    She Built a $5,000 AI Tool While Drinking Wine - Krista Mashore

    This week Joe Fier sits down with renowned coach, entrepreneur, and AI enthusiast Krista Mashore. The conversation dives into how Krista transitioned from a background in education and real estate to building a thriving coaching business, leveraging cutting-edge AI tools and innovative event models. Discover practical insights for business growth, creating interactive lead magnets, and redefining the sales process—all while keeping things fun and approachable. Whether you’re an entrepreneur looking to scale, a coach eager to boost engagement, or simply curious about using AI to build your brand, this episode delivers actionable strategies and inspiring stories. Topics Discussed Krista’s Journey: From teaching to top 1% real estate agent, then launching her own coaching and consulting business.Monthly Virtual Events: The proven process Krista uses for lead generation, qualifying buyers, and selling high-ticket offers through repeatable online events.AI in Business: How Krista integrates AI tools (like custom bots and mind clones) to create interactive experiences, streamline operations, and personalize content.Building Lead Magnets: Why interactive lead magnets (quizzes and custom apps) outperform static downloads in today’s market.Optimizing Offers & Event Strategies: Krista’s process for continuously refining event offers, bonuses, and pricing to maximize conversions.Tools for Non-Techies: How platforms like Abacus AI, Lovable, Bolt, and Wispr Flow enable anyone (even with zero coding experience!) to build apps and automation by just talking to the computer.Audience Evolution: Challenges and lessons learned as Krista expands her coaching programs beyond real estate into entrepreneurship and AI.The Human Side of AI: Why scaling with AI enhances, rather than replaces, real human connection and accountability in coaching programs.Removing Barriers to Success: Strategies for helping clients build belief in themselves, overcome objections, and achieve their goals with support and accountability. Resources Mentioned Abacus AI: https://abacus.aiLovable: https://lovable.devBolt: https://bolt.newWispr Flow: https://wisprflow.aiDelphi Mind Clone: https://hustleandflowchart.com/delphi Connect with Krista (don't forget to DM here "BOT" for access to her constraint bot) Website: https://constraint.kristamashore.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KristaMashoreCoachingInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristamashoreFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/kristamashore/li...

    33 min
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The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast with Joe Fier is all about how to build a business so it gives you the freedom and fuel for your life. We discuss systems, mindset tweaks, reframes, and strategies for entrepreneurs (and really anyone) to enjoy the process of being in business and having fun. This isn't for the entrepreneur looking to build a billion dollar business, rather someone who is looking to build systems that work for you, so you can make more money than you need just by working part-time. I was a chronic hustle-mode kinda guy and I want to share my experiences and mentors I've met along the way to help you reframe things so you can be the most effective as an entrepreneur. Join in conversations with Joe Fier and various mentors sharing principles and strategies to put this into action for yourself. Please enjoy and share with your friends! Listen Notes

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