That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding

That Hoarder
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That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding

Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives.

  1. #169 Compassion-focused therapy for grief and hoarding with Dr Chia-Ying Chou

    5 DAYS AGO

    #169 Compassion-focused therapy for grief and hoarding with Dr Chia-Ying Chou

    Get your 2025 decluttering inspiration calendar: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/2025  Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/  In today's episode, I ask Dr Chia-Ying Chou about the complex interplay between grief and hoarding. We'll explore how emotions like grief can trigger hoarding behaviour, the role an inner critic plays, and learn all about compassion-focused therapy – including why it’s so much easier to offer compassion than to receive it. The timing is perfect, coinciding with National Grief Awareness Week in the UK. Grief and Hoarding Discussion Chia-Ying Chou discusses the non-direct link between grief and hoarding based on clinical experience. Factors such as resistance to grieving and avoiding vulnerability exacerbate hoarding. Grief can trigger hoarding behaviour to maintain a sense of control and avoid confronting loss. Host shares personal experiences of how grief intensified their hoarding behaviour. Grief and Possessions People keep deceased loved ones' belongings as a way to preserve their existence. Chou mentions the ambiguous preservation of loved ones through items. Anxiety and resistance to facing grief make organising or discarding possessions difficult. Complex Emotions in Grief Host reflects on the unexpected emotions in grief, like anger or impatience. Therapeutic Strategies for Grief and Hoarding Chou compares addressing resistance to grief to preparing for a challenging hike. Emphasis on resourcing, preparing mentally, and gathering support. Suggestions for a "baby-step" approach to facing fears and emotions. Inner Critic and Grief Host discusses journey with their inner critic and finding new approaches to handle it. Chou highlights how internal criticism is often related to grief and missed opportunities. Compassion-Focused Therapy (CFT) Integration of Western psychotherapy and Buddhist philosophy for addressing psychological challenges. Difficulty in receiving or directing compassion towards oneself. Connections Between Hoarding, Trauma, and Grief Patterns of loss, either tangible or intangible, among those who hoard. Episode ties with National Grief Awareness Week in the UK. Cultivating Compassionate Companions Idea of cultivating an imaginary compassionate companion for emotional support. Emphasis on emotions being a part of persona, not the true self. Emotions and Grief Management Pacing yourself. Chou recommends creating space for emotions to surface naturally. Encouragement to welcome emotions as a creative process in internal space. Examine fears and take small steps to engage with feelings.

    44 min
  2. #168 Hoarding, healing, and the art of kintsugi with Dr Jan Eppingstall of Stuffology

    DEC 6

    #168 Hoarding, healing, and the art of kintsugi with Dr Jan Eppingstall of Stuffology

    Get your 2025 decluttering inspiration calendar: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/2025  Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/podcast-ep-168-hoarding-healing-and-the-art-of-kintsugi-with-dr-jan-eppingstall-of-stuffology/   Today, I'm with Dr Jan Eppingstall, a Melbourne-based counsellor, about the fascinating art of kintsugi and how it connects with hoarding and trauma recovery. We explore how this Japanese tradition of mending broken pottery with gold has lessons for us about the therapeutic journey and the beauty in imperfection. We also discuss how these concepts apply to overcoming perfectionism in hoarding and highlight the empowering process of creating, destroying, and rebuilding. Introduction to Kintsugi and Dr. Jan Eppingstall Explanation of kintsugi as a Japanese art form of repairing objects with gold. Kintsugi and the connection to recovery from trauma. Kintsugi as a Metaphor for Healing Importance of acknowledging the process of healing without oversimplification. Reference to Amy Price's article about kintsugi symbolising care and time. Discussion of Tomas Navarro's book and the importance of action in healing. Psychological and Therapeutic Implications Metaphor in therapy for expressing complex emotions. Application of kintsugi philosophy in mental health contexts, including trauma recovery. Relation to Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), acceptance, and resilience. The real-life application of acceptance and self-compassion. Creation, Destruction, and Rebuilding Create, destroy and recreate art as part of personal healing. Parallel with kintsugi in wabi sabi / finding beauty in imperfection. Personal Empowerment and Resilience Empowerment through courage and resilience using scars as a metaphor. Resonance with Leonard Cohen Idea of imperfection as a means for transformation. Contrasts with Modern Consumerism Kintsugi and wabi sabi's focus on the beauty of imperfection and impermanence. Reference to Beth Kempton's book on creating serene, beautiful spaces. Addressing Perfectionism and Hoarding Application of kintsugi principles to address perfectionism in hoarding. Exploration of creating, destroying, and rebuilding as a therapeutic exercise. "Wreck This Journal" to overcome artistic perfectionism.

    48 min
  3. #167 10 experiments to customise your dehoarding habits so they suit YOU

    NOV 29

    #167 10 experiments to customise your dehoarding habits so they suit YOU

    Get your 2025 decluttering inspiration calendar: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/2025  Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/  In this episode, I propose ten experiments to help customise your decluttering journey, focusing on individual preferences to uncover what strategies work best in your home. These experiments encourage a flexible approach to dehoarding. It's all about tailoring your methods to fit your style and your personality, ensuring that decluttering becomes a more intuitive and effective process. Approaching Tasks as Experiments Tasks viewed as experiments inspired by CBT Reduction of perfectionist pressure Emphasis on personal differences and no right or wrong answers Testing different time slots for tasks Effectiveness of beginning the day with decluttering "Swallowing the frog" concept Long-term goals vs. short-term goals for motivation Experimentation and Adjusting Over Time Periodic repetition of experiments to adapt to changes Use of structured time frames and spontaneous urges to declutter Experimenting with personal preferences for initiating action Options such as music, TV, silence, social interaction, or media consumption Use of podcast as motivational tool Upbeat music playlist Group accountability sessions via Zoom for shared motivation Productivity based on to-do list specificity Decluttering strategies: by space, type of item, or item within a space Handling Difficult Categories Approach to emotionally challenging items Tailoring strategy based on personal readiness Consistency in Dehoarding Short daily durations vs. longer weekly sessions Finding the best fit based on routine Time Constraints Setting strict vs. flexible schedules Combination of structured and spontaneous efforts Personalising Decluttering and Productivity Methods Focus on individual preferences and method effectiveness

    44 min
  4. #166 "Just-in-time shopping": Overcome fear-driven purchases, save money and space, and spend mindfully

    NOV 22

    #166 "Just-in-time shopping": Overcome fear-driven purchases, save money and space, and spend mindfully

    Get your 2025 decluttering inspiration calendar http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/2025  Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ In today's episode, I talk about the strategies I've been trying to address over-acquisition and manage my finances, from savings pots to practising 'just-in-time' shopping. I explain how these methods, alongside mindfully resisting impulse buys and more, are helping me reduce clutter. Personal Financial Management Dedicated accounts with savings pots for various expenses like glasses, car repairs, and gifts. Spending limits. Evaluating the necessity of purchases. Reflecting on past financial struggles. The tendency to overprepare due to fear of scarcity. The impact of hoarding on life, such as emotional pain from bereavements. The challenge of trusting that resources will be available when needed. Shopping Habits and Strategies Emphasising rationality in shopping. The "just in time" shopping approach to combat over-acquiring. Mindful shopping techniques Checking existing supplies before shopping. Using shopping lists with flexible categories. Resisting urge-driven purchases like discounts. Mindful Financial Practices Exploring alternative uses for money beyond impulse buys. Prioritising spending on quality experiences. Past Financial Hardship and Emotional Impact Past experiences of financial hardship leading to anxiety and hoarding. Reflecting on the emotional impact from periods like the COVID-19 pandemic. Personal Growth and Overcoming Beliefs Encouragement to try despite potential failures.

    30 min
  5. #165 Distraction-free idea capture: Transforming chaotic thought streams into actionable to-do lists

    NOV 15

    #165 Distraction-free idea capture: Transforming chaotic thought streams into actionable to-do lists

    Get your 2025 decluttering calendar: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/2025  Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/  Avoiding the chaos of complex idea capture systems is vital for preventing distraction and overwhelm. Today, I'm sharing practical strategies for transitioning from idea capture to action, breaking down large tasks into manageable subtasks and exploring tools like Google Tasks and voice assistants for prioritisation and organisation. Plus, I reflect on my own long-term struggle with to-do lists and how to experiment with different approaches to find a system that suits your needs. Simplifying Idea Capture Avoid complex systems to prevent distraction and overwhelm. Focus on simple, streamlined methods for capturing ideas. Set dedicated idea capture times to minimise distractions. Organising Idea Capture Materials Ensure materials and tools are easily accessible. Utilise technology for effortless idea capture using voice assistants. Transitioning from Idea Capture to Action Prioritise tasks based on urgency, impact, or personal goals. Structure and prioritise tasks. Break down large tasks into smaller, manageable subtasks. Combining Digital and Non-Digital Methods Use written to-do lists to complement digital systems for immediate tasks. Essential Elements for an Effective System Thinker's Notebook's five elements: omnipresence, efficiency, organisation, security, and offline thinking. Exploring Digital and Non-Digital Tools Popular digital tools: Evernote, OneNote, ToodleDo, Todoist, Trello, Taiga.io, Google Calendar, Outlook Calendar, Google Tasks. Non-digital methods: scraps of paper, notebooks, preprinted planners, bullet journals, mind maps. Personalising the Capture Method Importance of selecting a method suited to personal preferences and technical comfort level. Experimentation with different approaches. Two-Step Strategy for Idea Capture Combine digital or portable capture methods with comprehensive home organisation tools. Mind Mapping for Subtasks Use mind maps to break down tasks, providing a visual representation. Realistic Time Management Decide on timings based on deadlines and personal flexibility. Visual Task Management Track progress and prioritise tasks using visual tools like checklists or kanban boards. Prioritisation and Breaking Down Tasks Organise tasks by priority for easier management. Divide large tasks into smaller parts for simplification. Timely Task Execution Be realistic about time required for tasks and accommodate flexibility. Psychological Boost from Completion Mark tasks as completed for a dopamine boost and visual progress tracking. Adapting Idea Capture Systems Experiment with various methods to find an effective system that suits personal needs and goals.

    36 min
  6. #164 Digital hoarding and digital clutter with Dr Jan Eppingstall

    NOV 8

    #164 Digital hoarding and digital clutter with Dr Jan Eppingstall

    Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/  In this episode, I'm joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall, a counsellor with a PhD in hoarding, to discuss the phenomenon of digital hoarding, where people accumulate excessive digital items. We'll explore the emotional responses to losing digital content, the organisational and environmental implications of digital clutter, and strategies for managing our ever-growing digital lives. From the nostalgic pull of old photos to the overwhelming influx of emails, this conversation reveals the surprising similarities between physical and digital hoarding. Introduction to Digital Hoarding Definition of digital hoarding Comparison with physical hoarding, highlighting similar stress, anxiety, and attachment. Emotional Responses to Digital Loss Non-hoarders experiencing emotions like anger and anxiety over losing digital items. Technological Advancements and Digital Storage The proliferation of digital content creation, especially digital photos. Impact of technology on creating and storing digital content. Historical context of storage limitations versus current capabilities. Broader Implications of Digital Hoarding Extending beyond photos and videos to emails, subscriptions, and digital accounts. Cybersecurity risks and financial costs associated with digital hoarding. Reasons we retain digital content. Emotional Attachment and Digital Data Emotional ties to digital items like photos and documents. Reflecting identity and memory triggers in digital possessions. Digital Organisation Strategies Host's impeccably organised digital life contrasted with a cluttered home. Tiago Forte's PARA method for prioritising digital items. Inbox Zero and maintaining an organised email setup. Challenges of Digital Clutter Volume over efficiency: issues accessing necessary information despite organised files. Parallels between digital and physical hoarding behaviours. Digital Inefficiency and Environmental Impact Wasted time, reduced focus, and productivity issues due to digital clutter. Significant carbon footprint of data centres and environmental concerns. Strategies for Managing Digital Clutter Reducing digital intake by unsubscribing from unnecessary emails and content. Advice on stopping excessive bookmarking and managing browser tabs. Importance of setting up email filters to streamline email management. Creating physical keepsakes from special digital photos for meaningful interaction. Permission Slip Segment Discussion on evaluating difficult-to-discard items for sentimental or practical reasons.

    48 min
  7. #163 The Lazy Genius approach to planning, productivity and prioritising, with Kendra Adachi

    NOV 1

    #163 The Lazy Genius approach to planning, productivity and prioritising, with Kendra Adachi

    Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ In today's episode of That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding podcast, I'm joined by Kendra Adachi, author of "The Plan, Manage Your Time Like a Lazy Genius," as we explore self-compassion and realistic productivity. We'll discuss cultural differences in self-trust, the pitfalls of traditional planning, and how small, manageable steps can lead to meaningful progress. Kendra's insights challenge societal expectations and underscore the importance of kindness and contentment in our daily lives. Self-Trust and Societal Influences Cultural differences in self-trust between men and women Women's challenges with self-trust Understanding systemic influences Encouragement of kindness and acceptance towards oneself Societal Expectations and Productivity Pressure Critique of the "hustle" culture and pressure for excellence Contentment as opposed to constant optimisation Kindness to oneself as an alternative to relentless improvement Resistance to the idea of contentment Contentment and Self-Compassion Contentment not the same as giving up Defining contentment as awareness and appreciation of the present Self-compassion as a holistic life perspective Contentment and making mistakes Hoarding and Mindset Shifts Problem with future-focused thinking Importance of prioritising what matters to us Shifting mindset towards valuing fewer things and creating space Kinder approach to oneself and questioning what we have lose by trying contentment Integration vs. Greatness Embracing integration over achieving greatness Honouring emotions and practicing self-kindness Goal setting challenges and adopting flexible approaches Shrinking priorities to manage overwhelm Planning and Productivity Challenges Discussion on why many struggle with planning and productivity Unrealistic expectations from productivity experts Internalisation of failure for unmet expectations Disparity in authorship vs. readership of time management books The Lazy Genius Way and Practical Strategies Introduction to concepts from "The Lazy Genius Way" Principles of "going in the right order" (naming what matters, calming the chaos, trusting oneself) Encouragement of smaller, manageable steps Potential for meaningful change despite societal pressures

    49 min
  8. #162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot

    OCT 25

    #162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot

    Come to a Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Session: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/ticket Subscribe to the podcast: https://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/subscribe Podcast show notes, links and transcript: http://www.overcomecompulsivehoarding.co.uk/  In today's episode, I chat with Jo Cavalot, a compassionate inquiry practitioner and coach, about tackling executive dysfunction through a unique concept called "fibble", designed to help those struggling with focus and organisation. Jo shares her insights into treating internal parts with kindness, her own journey of recovery, and how she co-created Fibble as a tool to understand and manage executive function challenges. We explore the importance of personalised support in overcoming obstacles, and Jo offers a special discount for listeners interested in her work. Importance of a compassionate approach Internal family systems and parts work. Viewing internal parts as friends with individual needs. Differentiating exploratory sessions from physical organisation tasks. Executive Dysfunction and 'Fibble' Concept Challenges of executive dysfunction, specifically among people who hoard. Use of the 'fibble' acronym: Frustrated, Inadequate, Baffled, Befuddled, Lacking, and Exhausted. Fibble as a practical tool Jo Cavalot's experience with alcoholism Parallel between Jo's alcohol experience and hoarding. Emotional challenges and non-linear nature of recovery. Emphasis on self-awareness and self-compassion. Jo's significant life changes, like moving to Spain and involvement in the Camino de Santiago. Motivation through personal recovery and organisational skills. Involvement and motivation in Hoarding Disorders UK. Compassionate Inquiry, Based on Dr. Gabor Mate's work, focusing on trauma's impact. Positive impacts on clients with hoarding behaviours and related trauma. Key Challenges and Strengths in Addressing Organisation Common challenges: sustained attention, organisation, self-activation, planning, and prioritising. Creative problem-solving as a strength. Flexible thinking and stress tolerance. Use of a questionnaire assessing executive functioning across environments. Understanding and leveraging diverse personal strengths. Varying self-activation for personal vs. others' tasks. Goal Setting and Personalisation Personalised tools over generic advice. Introduction of the Ikigai concept in goal setting. Use of the fibble questionnaire for personal assessment and support. Understanding and Addressing Underlying Causes Identifying trauma responses and underlying causes. Adjusting expectations based on life circumstances. Holistic and trauma-informed support for personal challenges.

    42 min
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Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives.

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