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All things Kooky and Spooky in the Sooner (or Cowboy) state! Native Oklahomans and cousins, Jess and Tiff, explore all the dark history, paranormal, and true crime in their home state.

Curious Cousins OK Podcast Curious Cousins OK

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All things Kooky and Spooky in the Sooner (or Cowboy) state! Native Oklahomans and cousins, Jess and Tiff, explore all the dark history, paranormal, and true crime in their home state.

    Ep 86 Bill Tilghman

    Ep 86 Bill Tilghman

    Bill Tilghman, born on July 4, 1854, had an intriguing life as a quintessential Old West Cowboy and Lawman. Tilghman started his journey as a buffalo hunter at the age of 16, becoming known for his exceptional shooting skills with a Sharps rifle. Throughout his time as a buffalo hunter, he befriended notable figures like Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson, but also engaged in illegal activities such as stealing horses from Native American tribes. Despite this, Tilghman transitioned into law enforcement in Dodge City, Kansas, working alongside figures like the Earps and Mastersons.

    Tilghman's lawman career further blossomed when he became part of "The Three Guardsmen," renowned for their pursuit of outlaws in the Indian Territory. His most notable arrest of Bill Doolin in 1895 solidified his status as a national hero. As time progressed, Tilghman's life took unexpected turns, including a foray into Hollywood with the production of "The Passing of the Oklahoma Outlaws." However, tragedy struck in 1924 when Tilghman was fatally shot in Cromwell, Oklahoma, by U.S. Prohibition Officer Wiley Lynn. Despite Lynn's controversial acquittal in court, Tilghman's legacy lives on through the Bill Tilghman Award, recognizing individuals who uphold the highest standards of law enforcement in Oklahoma.

    Sources:


    “Oklahoma’s Most Notorious Cases: Vol. 2” by Kent Frates 


    “100 Oklahoma Outlaws, Gangsters, and Lawman: 1839 - 1939” by Dan Anderson and Laurence Yadon 


    “West of Hell’s Fringe” by Glenn Shirley 


    “Oklahoma Justice: The Oklahoma City Police: A Century of Gunfighters, Gangsters and Terrorists” by Ron Owens 


    “Dodge City: Wyatt Earp, Bat Masterson, and the Wickedest Town in the American West” by Tom Clavin 


    Oklahoma Historical Society - Bill Tilghman



    Oklahoma Historical Society - The Three Guardsmen


    Legends of America - Bill Tilghman 


    Officer - Bill Tilghman


    Wikipedia - Bill Tilghman


    Wikipedia - Wiley Lynn 

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Ep 85 The Constantine & Poncan Theatres

    Ep 85 The Constantine & Poncan Theatres

    Two of Oklahoma’s most notable and earliest theaters are The Constantine Theater and The Poncan Theatre. Both were early halls for entertainment in Oklahoma. As we return from our 2 weeks off, Tiff dives right into the spooky tales of these historic theaters.  

    The Constantine is found in Pawhuska, and is the second oldest theater in Oklahoma. It traces its history to pre-statehood, as well as, participated in many events such as plays, movies, vaudeville, and even oil lease auctions. Touted as being the “finest opera house in the southwest”, Pawhuska built a facility it could be proud of. Yet, over the years, hard times befell it. Eventually, it became abandoned until the fine folks of Pawhuska decided it needed saving. Almost 40 years later, The Constantine is a venue that once again hosts an array of activities…including the spooky type. From turn of the century actors to former managers and a secret tunnel, The Constantine boasts not only the history, but perhaps, the talent, to make things go BUMP anytime!

    Just about 45 minutes west is a theater straight out of the roaring 20s! The Poncan Theatre, at its opening in 1927, boasted 1,200 seats! Acts from around the country could be seen there, including Will Rogers, Ethel Barrymore, and more recently, Blake Shelton! Like many theaters of its time, The Poncan experienced its ups and downs. But today, it continues as a working theater, one you can catch a movie on almost every day of the week. But beware, that might not be all that you catch…spirits are said to reach out and let you know that they are nearby. Maybe they just want to share the popcorn?  

    Sources:


    Only in Your State


    KTUL Tulsa’s News Channel 8


    Wikipedia: Constantine Theater, Poncan Theatre


    TravelOK


    Ponca City Now


    Oklahoma Haunted Houses: Constantine Theater, Poncan Theatre


    Poncan Theatre


    The Constantine Theater


    Haunted Oklahoma by Jeff Provine

    • 36 min
    Ep 84 Battle of Honey Springs

    Ep 84 Battle of Honey Springs

    The Battle of Honey Springs, fought on July 17, 1863, was a significant event during the American Civil War in Indian Territory, now present-day Oklahoma. Jess takes a look at this historic battle in this week’s history episode. The battle took place on a rural countryside near Checotah and was the largest and most decisive conflict in the region during the war. It marked a key moment in the conflict between Union and Confederate forces in the area. The engagement, lasting four hours, resulted in the Union forces, including Black soldiers from the First Kansas Colored Volunteer Infantry Regiment, emerging victorious over the Confederates under Brigadier General Douglas H. Cooper.

    The aftermath of the Battle of Honey Springs saw significant impacts on the region. The engagement reflected the diverse composition of the soldiers involved, with Black, Native American, Hispanic troops, and enhanced the legacy of the significance of the fight in ending slavery for many. In more recent times, efforts to commemorate and preserve the historic battlefield have culminated in the establishment of the Honey Springs Battlefield Park, including a visitor center with state-of-the-art exhibits detailing the events of the battle. This significant site serves as a reminder of the pivotal role played by the region in the Civil War and its lasting impact on the communities involved.

    Honey Springs Battlefield Park is opened Tuesday through Saturday, 9 a.m. to 4:30 p.m and located 423159 E 1030 Road in Checotah. Check out their website for more info!

    Sources:


    Oklahoma Historical Society Honey Springs


    Oklahoma Historical Society Cabin Creek 


    American Battlefield Trust


    Oklahoma Living Magazine


    OKC Community College 


    Visiting Honey Springs Battlefield 

    • 52 min
    Ep 83 Franklin Delano Floyd pt 2

    Ep 83 Franklin Delano Floyd pt 2

    This week Tiff wraps up the gruesome and horrific life of crime of one Franklin Delano Floyd. Last week, we left off where Franklin was awaiting trial on a burglary and assault case out of OKC. But what Franklin does while released is the true stuff of nightmares. September 12, 1994 would be a day many students at Indian Meridian Elementary School in Choctaw remember to this day. That is the day that Floyd waltzed into the school and kidnapped, not only the school principal, James Davis, but also Floyd’s “son” Anthony Michael Hughes. Even though Principal Davis would be found alive, Michael would never be seen, dead or alive, again. You read that right…Michael has never been found. 



    But that is only the tip of this episode’s iceberg. When the truck Floyd stole from Principal Davis that day in September is auctioned off, authorities receive a very peculiar phone call…It seems Floyd abandoned the truck without cleaning out some pretty convincing evidence. Meanwhile, while unusual and disturbing photos are being investigated in Kansas and Oklahoma, the skeletal remains of Cheryl Ann Commesso were discovered on the side of a highway in Florida. What could these two stories possibly have in common, you ask? Commesso was a known coworker and friend of Floyd’s deceased wife and Michael’s mother, Tonya Hughes…aka Sharon Marshall…aka Suzanne Sevakis. 



    As this knot of lies, abuse, crime, and evasion from police starts to unravel so does the truth behind just who Tonya is, and how depraved Franklin was. 



    Listener Discretion is advised. This is part 2 of a 2 parter over Franklin Delano Floyd. 



    Sources:


    Wikipedia


    Murderpedia


    Official Website of the FBI


    Netflix’s “Girl in the Picture”


    The Ledger

    • 50 min
    Ep 82 Franklin Delano Floyd pt 1

    Ep 82 Franklin Delano Floyd pt 1

    If you’ve watched Netflix's documentary “Girl in the Picture” (2022), you will be familiar with this week’s true crime dive. But do you really know the Oklahoma connections to this story? Franklin Delano Floyd may have a presidential sounding name, but he certainly didn’t have the charm and qualities to go with it. Stemming from a ROUGH childhood, Floyd made multiple life choices that were, well, bad. In part 1, Tiff dives into Franklin Floyd’s troubled past before he really left his mark in Oklahoma’s dark history. 



    Listener Discretion is advised. This is part 1 of a 2 parter over Franklin Delano Floyd. 





    Sources:


    Wikipedia


    Murderpedia


    Official Website of the FBI


    Netflix’s “Girl in the Picture”


    The Ledger

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Ep 81 University of Oklahoma Spooks

    Ep 81 University of Oklahoma Spooks

    This season seems to be all about the school spooks! Jess jumps back into looking for ghosts and haunting tales, but this time, she stops in at the University of Oklahoma. From dog burials in the football field, to a rolling skating spirit in the old infirmary, OU doesn’t disappoint when it comes to keeping it kooky and spooky! As one of the three universities necessary for statehood (UCO, OSU, and OU), its rich tradition is due to its rich, and long history.  

    Sources:


    “Campus Ghosts of Norman, Oklahoma” by Jeff Provine


    “Haunted Oklahoma” by Jeff Provine


    University of Oklahoma Website



    https://www.ou.edu/about/history 


    https://www.ou.edu/visit/ghost-tours



    OU Daily; 2013; 2019


    The Oklahoman

    • 56 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
19 Ratings

19 Ratings

emschep ,

So fun!

Listening to Jess and Tiff tell stories to each other is amazing. Great stories, I look forward to each episode!

Runnermom78! ,

Great for the most part

I really like this podcast and I really like the stories in this podcast. The thing that I don’t care for is all the extra talking. When one of them starts in on a good mystery, the other pipes in with some off-the-wall story, and just totally kills your intensity into the story. For example, one of the stories was getting really good it was about ghosts, and out of nowhere, Jess decided to tell the story about her mom’s refrigerator ice maker going off on its own. I mean really who cares? you just took us totally out of a groove to tell us a story so random and it kills the moment. And they’re also always asking each other questions that if they would just let the story to be told, those questions are answered, but again it takes you out of the moment. Ask at the end. But other than that I do enjoy the stories.

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